BProland85 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 He was just traded today to Tampa for a backup TE and probably a 6th round pick. We could have easily fixed our interior woes on the OL with trading for him. Then next offseason, cut Cherilus and his big contract, and play Mewhort at RT. Mankins is still only 32 and has at least 3 more good years in him. Could have instantly helped our run game and possibly propelled this OL to be superbowl contenders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 No No No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akcolt Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 No No Noagreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horse Shoe Heaven Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Mankins is good they would have never traded him to the Colts in the same conference! Surprised they traded him?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrNLM Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 LOL... the last LG we got from the pats didn't/hasn't worked out too well. I'll pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BProland85 Posted August 26, 2014 Author Share Posted August 26, 2014 No No NoUmm..why not? He would cost us maybe our backup TE and a 5th or 6th. You wouldn't trade that to finally get stability on the interior OL? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Mankins is good they would have never traded him to the Colts in the same conference! Surprised they traded him??The backups must be impressing the coaches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamboat_Shaun Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Umm..why not? He would cost us maybe our backup TE and a 5th or 6th. You wouldn't trade that to finally get stability on the interior OL? Yeah, Eric Swoope and a 6th? What's the problem with that trade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colts_Fan12 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Umm..why not? He would cost us maybe our backup TE and a 5th or 6th. You wouldn't trade that to finally get stability on the interior OL?Prolly cause the TE needed would be either Allen or Fleener no thanks not 1 of our young weapons for a 32 year old G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Umm..why not? He would cost us maybe our backup TE and a 5th or 6th. You wouldn't trade that to finally get stability on the interior OL?No if it involves cutting a leader of the line Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Prolly cause the TE needed would be either Allen or Fleener no thanks not 1 of our young weapons for a 32 year old GAgreed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTC Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 We would have to give up Dwayne Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colts_Fan12 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Also ill be damned if I want Allen or Fleener in NE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 We would have to give up Dwayne Allen.The talent difference between Allen and Wright is huge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTC Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 The talent difference between Allen and Wright is huge.But we wouldn't have to give up a pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownColt Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Umm..why not? He would cost us maybe our backup TE and a 5th or 6th. You wouldn't trade that to finally get stability on the interior OL?He costed a 2014 4th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 The talent difference between Allen and Wright is huge.The pick they received was a 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horse Shoe Heaven Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 The backups must be impressing the coachesI guess, they the Patriots do some odd things sometimes, but in the end always seems to work for them. "s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownColt Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 @AlbertBreer: Tim Wright's 2014 cap number is $498,333, or just over $10 million less than Logan Mankins' was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtsLegacy Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 He costed a 2014 4thAka 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 @AlbertBreer: Tim Wright's 2014 cap number is $498,333, or just over $10 million less than Logan Mankins' was.Wow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobody Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 But we wouldn't have to give up a pick.Yeah but a 4 isn't enough to make that up to me, draft picks are overrated when talking about star players. A 1st round pick is worth twice what a first rounder who has reached expectations is in a trade, that's ridiculous. Look at Vontae- drafted in the first, played as well as they hoped, and was shipped off for a full round later pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOTT Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 I guess, they the Patriots do some odd things sometimes, but in the end always seems to work for them. "s!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Meh, not really Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
open window Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Like haynesworth and ocho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Track Guy Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Mankins would have been really nice to have this season but who knows if they would've given him to Indy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudeski Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Umm..why not? He would cost us maybe our backup TE and a 5th or 6th. You wouldn't trade that to finally get stability on the interior OL?no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horse Shoe Heaven Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Meh, not reallyYea I have seen that the last 2 times we have gotten our butt's kicked by them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 I don't think a fourth or fifth round pick is sooo valuable that it wouldn't be worth it. This is weird on the part of the Pats, but maybe BB knows something Lovie doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 It was a 4th rounder, and the Bucs have been DESPERATE for guards. Yes, more desperate than us. And it would have cost us a TE with proven ability, not a project like Swoope or a deep reserve like Doyle or Saunders. Either Fleener or Allen, for sure. So, good for the Bucs. Weird for the Pats (guess Gronk isn't ready, but who is gonna play guard now?) Not a good potential move for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
husker61 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 you have to consider salary (6, 7, 7 million over the next three years) and injuries. there are probably injury concerns. the pats would have gotten more if more teams were interested. this happens a lot with vet players with big contracts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad72 Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 It was a 4th rounder, and the Bucs have been DESPERATE for guards. Yes, more desperate than us. And it would have cost us a TE with proven ability, not a project like Swoope or a deep reserve like Doyle or Saunders. Either Fleener or Allen, for sure. So, good for the Bucs. Weird for the Pats (guess Gronk isn't ready, but who is gonna play guard now?) Not a good potential move for us. I think we could have talked them out of a TE being needed by giving up a 3rd. Feels weird having all first 3 picks intact for the first time in 3 years . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 I think we could have talked them out of a TE being needed by giving up a 3rd. Feels weird having all first 3 picks intact for the first time in 3 years . I think they wanted a productive TE. Maybe we could have talked them down to Doyle, but I doubt it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jskinnz Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 These are the threads that keep on giving and giving. I cherish them deeply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jskinnz Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 I don't think a fourth or fifth round pick is sooo valuable that it wouldn't be worth it. This is weird on the part of the Pats, but maybe BB knows something Lovie doesn't. Not weird at all if you consider a few things. 1) History of similar moves - see Richard Seymour. 2) Always better to get rid of a player one too soon than one year too late. I am sure he has actuarial type info on when production for someone of Mankin's age and position starts to decline.3) Have a trading partner who is desperate4) Maybe it also speaks to Gronk's early availability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Indy Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 He was just traded today to Tampa for a backup TE and probably a 6th round pick. We could have easily fixed our interior woes on the OL with trading for him. Then next offseason, cut Cherilus and his big contract, and play Mewhort at RT. Mankins is still only 32 and has at least 3 more good years in him. Could have instantly helped our run game and possibly propelled this OL to be superbowl contenders. Nah. Gos has been solid on the RT spot. Why cut a guy who is actually playing well on the OL? There's three spots in the center to worry about, and you're advocating cutting someone not in one of those three... LG Is important, but I don't think Logan would have been a solution. Very much like the Ravens signing Deion Sanders, that could've been a trade and 10 mil wasted on a guy who was past his prime. I'm more interested in seeing the youngsters develop, rather than continue to shift and change the line every time Luck is sacked (Which some members here seem to want to do). The OL is going to take a year or so to develop- that's just a fact. Castonzo and Cherilus are definitely staying. If I were to cut anyone on the offensive line, it would be Thornton- but it's still too early to judge him, as he's only had one year in the league and he was out of position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeedrinker Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 The question that has to be asked is why would the Pats trade him? Behind him they have a guy who was an UDFA from 2013 and a rookie 6th round pick. Not that those guys can't be good, but I doubt if either is as good as Mankins is right now... unless Mankins has declined a lot this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sb41champs Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 You'll note that the Patriots traded Mankins to an NFC team. It's unlikely that Belichick would have considered a trade arrangement with an AFC team - especially one that they play later this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horse Shoe Heaven Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 The question that has to be asked is why would the Pats trade him? Behind him they have a guy who was an UDFA from 2013 and a rookie 6th round pick. Not that those guys can't be good, but I doubt if either is as good as Mankins is right now... unless Mankins has declined a lot this year.TE desperate! Could make another move lots of money now available. maybe Incogneto? I know spelled wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Not weird at all if you consider a few things. 1) History of similar moves - see Richard Seymour. 2) Always better to get rid of a player one too soon than one year too late. I am sure he has actuarial type info on when production for someone of Mankin's age and position starts to decline.3) Have a trading partner who is desperate4) Maybe it also speaks to Gronk's early availability.Fair enough and I totally agree about the desperation of the Bucs, but I don't think Brady's window to win again this year or next is increased by this move, assuming BB isn't getting one over on Lovie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwing BBZ Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 He was just traded today to Tampa for a backup TE and probably a 6th round pick. We could have easily fixed our interior woes on the OL with trading for him. Then next offseason, cut Cherilus and his big contract, and play Mewhort at RT. Mankins is still only 32 and has at least 3 more good years in him. Could have instantly helped our run game and possibly propelled this OL to be superbowl contenders. He was just traded today to Tampa for a backup TE and probably a 6th round pick. We could have easily fixed our interior woes on the OL with trading for him. Then next offseason, cut Cherilus and his big contract, and play Mewhort at RT. Mankins is still only 32 and has at least 3 more good years in him. Could have instantly helped our run game and possibly propelled this OL to be superbowl contenders. Don`t think you have any of it right. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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