Trent's Breakout?

[ColtStrong]

I don't think Trent will have that "breakout game" stats wise anytime soon. His importance will be shown by when he makes plays and whether he can move the chains with 3-5 yard gains. 

True. It seems like every week since we've gotten him people are starting threads like this. " Is this the week he breaks out?" If he does, he does. If not, OK. As long as he can move the chains and we win, I'm OK with whatever his stats are.

[Day at the Hilton]

I watched the stanford game today and saw what pep has envisioned for our run game. The runs were so obvious yet they worked because their oline is very good. We don't have that. I went back and watched him play vs auburn and Trent ran much better when the play was disguised better and he was in space.

[hawkeyes]

I do not see Trent breaking out - sadly ever ..... however IF Donald Brown was given some respect the guy would put up 100+ a game!

[dudeski]

I do not see Trent breaking out - sadly ever ..... however IF Donald Brown was given some respect the guy would put up 100+ a game!

no he wouldn't

[Franklin County]

I do not see Trent breaking out - sadly ever ..... however IF Donald Brown was given some respect the guy would put up 100+ a game!

We saw that movie.....and it didn't end like that.

[jcar0725]

How come TRich gets a pass with Colt's fans, while the other RB's get criticized?

[chad72]

Did Trent have acne? I couldn't tell by the thread title.

[Buck Showalter]

Remind me what people have been saying about Brown

How come TRich gets a pass with Colt's fans, while the other RB's get criticized?

Looks like TRich has plenty of critics... Brown used to also...

[House]

How come TRich gets a pass with Colt's fans, while the other RB's get criticized?

What threads do you read where Trent has no critics?

[Colts_Fan12]

I do not see Trent breaking out - sadly ever ..... however IF Donald Brown was given some respect the guy would put up 100+ a game!

These posts always make me lol

[Hoosierdome93]

I can see TR getting comfortable and better with the colts game. I would like to see him burst threw holes like Brown does and I think we need to use him more on screen plays.

I'm going to say Yes he will have his break out game.

GO COLTS

[jamesie jr]

Doubt he will have a breakout game this season. Wasn't really expecting him to tbh, just someone to fill the gap and try to be productive this season with the injuries, then next season him and Ballard will be awesome. 

[krunk]

If somebody already posted this please excuse me. I thought this was interesting.

 

 

Mirroring Marshawn Lynch?

A little perspective for those critical of Richardson’s contributions since the Colts acquired the No. 3 overall pick in the 2012 draft from Cleveland for a 2014 first-round draft pick.

His six-game totals: 83 carries, 248 yards, a 3.0 average.

In 2010, Seattle acquired Marshawn Lynch, the seventh overall pick in 2007, from the Buffalo Bills.

His first six games with the Seahawks: 81 carries, 253 yards, 3.1 average.

Once he settled in, Lynch rushed for 1,204 yards in 2011, 1,590 yards in ’12 and ranks second in the league this season with 726 yards.

Perhaps the acquisition of Richardson won’t pan out. But it’s too soon to reach that conclusion.

http://www.indystar.com/article/20131108/SPORTS03/311080060/Heard-Colts-locker-room-Trent-Richardson-ready-he-next-Marshawn-Lynch

[oldunclemark]

we do get a 'Trent Breakout thread every week..

hope springs eternal

[Gabriel Alexander Morillo]

If somebody already posted this please excuse me. I thought this was interesting.

 

 

Mirroring Marshawn Lynch?

A little perspective for those critical of Richardson’s contributions since the Colts acquired the No. 3 overall pick in the 2012 draft from Cleveland for a 2014 first-round draft pick.

His six-game totals: 83 carries, 248 yards, a 3.0 average.

In 2010, Seattle acquired Marshawn Lynch, the seventh overall pick in 2007, from the Buffalo Bills.

His first six games with the Seahawks: 81 carries, 253 yards, 3.1 average.

Once he settled in, Lynch rushed for 1,204 yards in 2011, 1,590 yards in ’12 and ranks second in the league this season with 726 yards.

Perhaps the acquisition of Richardson won’t pan out. But it’s too soon to reach that conclusion.

http://www.indystar.com/article/20131108/SPORTS03/311080060/Heard-Colts-locker-room-Trent-Richardson-ready-he-next-Marshawn-Lynch

This could apply to any rb doing poorly 

[husker61]

If somebody already posted this please excuse me. I thought this was interesting.

 

 

Mirroring Marshawn Lynch?

A little perspective for those critical of Richardson’s contributions since the Colts acquired the No. 3 overall pick in the 2012 draft from Cleveland for a 2014 first-round draft pick.

His six-game totals: 83 carries, 248 yards, a 3.0 average.

In 2010, Seattle acquired Marshawn Lynch, the seventh overall pick in 2007, from the Buffalo Bills.

His first six games with the Seahawks: 81 carries, 253 yards, 3.1 average.

Once he settled in, Lynch rushed for 1,204 yards in 2011, 1,590 yards in ’12 and ranks second in the league this season with 726 yards.

Perhaps the acquisition of Richardson won’t pan out. But it’s too soon to reach that conclusion.

http://www.indystar.com/article/20131108/SPORTS03/311080060/Heard-Colts-locker-room-Trent-Richardson-ready-he-next-Marshawn-Lynch

 

 my problem was giving up a 1st round pick, seattle gave up a 4th round pick for lynch. lynch was a career 4 ypc rb and 4.4 ypc that year (much better) and they only gave up a 4th round pick! if the colts gave up a 4th for tr, i don't believe there would be a lot of complaining here. lynch had some good games in those 6 you talk about, but one terrible one (9 carries 7 yards) that kills the ypc in a small sample size. all richardson's games with the colts have been very consistent. also, seattle was a 7-9 team that year, the colts are a much better team. when seattle got a lot better, he got better.

[jbaron04]

I don't think Trent will have that "breakout game" stats wise anytime soon. His importance will be shown by when he makes plays and whether he can move the chains with 3-5 yard gains. 

trent is gonna show his importance in the playoff and them grind it out games when u need the tuff yards

[dudeski]

 my problem was giving up a 1st round pick, seattle gave up a 4th round pick for lynch. lynch was a career 4 ypc rb and 4.4 ypc that year (much better) and they only gave up a 4th round pick! if the colts gave up a 4th for tr, i don't believe there would be a lot of complaining here. lynch had some good games in those 6 you talk about, but one terrible one (9 carries 7 yards) that kills the ypc in a small sample size. all richardson's games with the colts have been very consistent. also, seattle was a 7-9 team that year, the colts are a much better team. when seattle got a lot better, he got better.

i never was a fan of giving up a 1st for him.  thought a second was a fair price

 

that said it isn't exactly the same scenario.  lynch wasn't a model citizen with the bills.  that drove his stock down

[t-rex]

There is No Trent Breakout. This is Trent Richardson, we've seen him for the past 6 games.

I dearly hope you are wrong. We shall see. So far this trade has been disappointing.

[hawkeyes]

no he wouldn't

 

Yes he would!

 

DB runs behind that same horrible OL that everyone is talking about yet he runs for 6 and a half yards a carry....  Does the OL run block better for him vs TR?   I think not!    DB gets less than 5 carries a game - I'd like to see that at least double to 10 carries a game - maybe 15.  IMO his game play has earned him more carries - I hope we give them to him!    DB never fumbles - they said that about TR too - but hes already put the ball on the ground a few times!  Give 31 some respect!

[dudeski]

Yes he would!

 

DB runs behind that same horrible OL that everyone is talking about yet he runs for 6 and a half yards a carry....  Does the OL run block better for him vs TR?   I think not!    DB gets less than 5 carries a game - I'd like to see that at least double to 10 carries a game - maybe 15.  IMO his game play has earned him more carries - I hope we give them to him!    DB never fumbles - they said that about TR too - but hes already put the ball on the ground a few times!  Give 31 some respect!

db runs behind the same line.  but not the same formations.  not against the same # of defenders in the box.  you can call that nonsense but it is a fact.  you can easily go back and watch.  it is true.  when db gets in the those power formations, his results go way down.  once again, fact.

 

that said.  they have been equaling out the workload of trich and brown.  which is fine by me. 

 

trich has lost 1 fumble.  on a play where he should have just went down.  but even then, the play should have been blown dead imo.  lets not act like trich has fumbling issues

[Gavin]

db runs behind the same line.  but not the same formations.  not against the same # of defenders in the box.  you can call that nonsense but it is a fact.  you can easily go back and watch.  it is true.  when db gets in the those power formations, his results go way down.  once again, fact.

 

that said.  they have been equaling out the workload of trich and brown.  which is fine by me. 

 

trich has lost 1 fumble.  on a play where he should have just went down.  but even then, the play should have been blown dead imo.  lets not act like trich has fumbling issues

Im sure by the end of the season the number of times each run behind power formations will be close to equaling out

[dudeski]

Im sure by the end of the season the number of times each run behind power formations will be close to equaling out

i hope we stop doing it unless it is for short yardage

[hawkeyes]

trich has lost 1 fumble.  on a play where he should have just went down.  but even then, the play should have been blown dead imo.  lets not act like trich has fumbling issues

 

Coming to the team all I heard them say was he never put the ball on the ground - he has lost control of it several times now- but yes he has only "lost one" ... you are correct.

[optimusprimetime]

stampede blue has a great post on why T rich does not have the numbers we want from him....YET

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.stampedeblue.com/2013/10/23/4947744/trent-richardson-the-failure

 

[dudeski]

Coming to the team all I heard them say was he never put the ball on the ground - he has lost control of it several times now- but yes he has only "lost one" ... you are correct.

several times? Twice is several?

[ponyboy]

 

2) Yes, the browns did pay his signing bonus, but we are still on the hook for the biggest part of his salary $6.6 million and if we take the 5th year option that's about another $7 million ... so we get him 4 years for between $14-$15 million before we have to give him that second contract (or release him).

 

So on one hand we have TRich for 4 yrs $14-15 million ---or--- On the other we have a 2nd round RB in 2014 draft for 4 yrs $3-4 million  +  our 1st round draft pick.

 

I agree with your point but think it's overstated a bit because there is no way the Colts pick up the 5th year option unless he DOES start producing like a top back.  Also, if Colts were looking to draft a RB with a 2nd round pick then we still have that 2nd round pick to use elsewhere.  So, factoring those in, it's not as bad as stated above.

 

TRich at 3 years/$6.6M AND a 2nd round pick (perhaps a 2nd round OG/WR) -- or -- a 2nd round RB at 4 years/$3.4M AND a 1st round pick (perhaps a 1st round OG/WR).

[Narcosys]

That's finally come true for someone who was a Donald Brown loyalist...

Are you serious? I dont think youre remembering correctly. I was the one bashing brown cause ballard did just as good as him on his rookie year. Remember, im the one who ticked off the brown loyalists by excluding his one 80yd run to get a better idea of his average. Dont you put that curse on me ricky bobby. Brown loyalists..ughh i feel like i need to cry in a shower with my clothes on, like i was violated or something.

[Buck Showalter]

Are you serious? I dont think youre remembering correctly. I was the one bashing brown cause ballard did just as good as him on his rookie year. Remember, im the one who ticked off the brown loyalists by excluding his one 80yd run to get a better idea of his average. Dont you put that curse on me ricky bobby. Brown loyalists..ughh i feel like i need to cry in a shower with my clothes on, like i was violated or something.

Uhhh...

I wasn't referring to you, I was saying in general... I was reffering to those fans who tried to be optimistic about Donald Brown for the past four seasons, to finally breakout & have some good games...

If they started threads each week saying "This is the week Donald has a big game" , they would finally have something to talk about...

Making jokes...

All jokes...

Shake & Bake...

Shake & Bake

[Gabriel Alexander Morillo]

Maybe next week big guy, maybe next week. 

[Ohio Colt]

a break out for Trent Richardson at this point is like a 40 yard game. He's so horrible.

[masterlock]

Trent was brought into a power running system to be our power back. Everyone, please stop thinking that Pep should alter the offense just so that T-Rich can gain better than 3YPC. It's up to Trent to make this work, like Ballard and Bradshaw were able to do in this exact offense.

A better argument could be made that we are using Richardson incorrectly and thus admitting that for our offense, we chose the wrong back.

It's up to the offensive line to run block and for Richardson to take the right angles and hit the right holes. Neither has happened, other than rarely, which is why it's a chronic problem, a systemic problem.

[King Colt]

I never saw TR play in College and at Cleveland but something is very wrong, who is at fault I can't say but our offensive line is suspect to be polite But Brown seems to be the go to guy and if he can get it done why TR.

[chrisfarley]

TRich is a VERY good back.  Like an Emmitt Smith.  Yes, he's that good.  

[NewEra]

a break out for Trent Richardson at this point is like a 40 yard game. He's so horrible.

Seriously bro, when was the last time you had your eyes checked?

Trent will not have a break out year with Satele and McGlynn. Sorry, I just don't see it happening. I think I saw Satele walking around holding into Langfords belt loop. Cause he straight made him his prison .....

[NewEra]

I never saw TR play in College and at Cleveland but something is very wrong, who is at fault I can't say but our offensive line is suspect to be polite But Brown seems to be the go to guy and if he can get it done why TR.

He had -1 yards. He doesn't get it done either. Only when we get the ball moving and the pass working is DB able to come in and pop off some yards

[BOTT]

trent is gonna show his importance in the playoff and them grind it out games when u need the tuff yards

With the way the middle of the Oline is playing I wouldn't hold my breath.

[Gavin]

TRich is a VERY good back.  Like an Emmitt Smith.  Yes, he's that good.  

Do you say some of this stuff for shock value or what

[CoachLite]

Sadly, the measure of a running back is not how far they embed themselves in Satele's, McGlynn's or Thornton's rear end. While this may be lack of player talent, it certainly is a coaching problem.  Don't give your players impossible (for them) tasks.

[jcar0725]

A good RB can make an offensive line look good.  Just like a good QB who can make good reads and get the ball out quickly can make an o-line look good.