Ahmad Bradshaw visiting Colts/Colts now in 'heavy negotiations' with Bradshaw again. (merge)

[krunk]

I'm sure Bradshaw would be an awesome fit here in Indy, but as I watched that video, what stood out to me was how often Bradshaw had an enormous hole to run thru, or had his line setting the edge and leaving him a third of the field to break free. I know this is just a highlight reel, but how often was he 3+ yards past the line before he was even touched? This despite the Giants fan earlier claiming how awful the NYG OLine was last year. Anybody recall the Colts line doing anything close to that in the last, uhmm, 7 years or so? When was the last Colts RB who wasn't consistently molested BEHIND the LOS?

It's good to have varying opinions so in that regard I can respect what you are saying. However you are assuming that the offensive line has not improved, which we all know we have made more than one move to solidify it in the off season. The highlight film shows us the potential of what Bradshaw brings if our line performs the way that we anticipate it should. I'm confident our line play will be improved this year. Even with a bad O line, Ballard was 200yards away from 1000 yards. If Bradshaw can't bring that with this years group, to me something is wrong and it isn't the Oline.

[Giants56]

Just checked back - I guess a deal has not been reached?

 

There is speculation that the Giants may be interested in bringing him back - and Bradshaw is looking to establish his market value to take an offer back. Although I will say, generally once the Giants cut someone, they are done with them. And in NY's case, they are trying to rid themselves of the guys constantly in the trainer's room. 

 

But the situation bares watching. 

 

I saw some questions about his specific injuries - let me tell you - this guy's been though the ringer. He has 2 broken feet and a chronic bad ankle. He's had pins inserted, and taken out, and inserted again, in the feet as different metatarsals broke. Last year alone, by midseason he was playing with a broken hand, 2 broken feet, a sprained ankle, a badly sprained knee and a sprained neck. All at the same time. The team was fearful he tore his ACL during the 49ers game but he kept playing, and never missed any time. 

 

Coughlin said he looked like a cripple every Monday and that there was just no way you'd ever imagine him being able to practice or play the following week. But he'd always get his * together  by Friday, and look good doing it. 

Edited June 7, 2013 by Superman

[NewColtsFan]

Just checked back - I guess a deal has not been reached?

 

There is speculation that the Giants may be interested in bringing him back - and Bradshaw is looking to establish his market value to take an offer back. Although I will say, generally once the Giants cut someone, they are done with them. And in NY's case, they are trying to rid themselves of the guys constantly in the trainer's room. 

 

But the situation bares watching. 

 

I saw some questions about his specific injuries - let me tell you - this guy's been though the ringer. He has 2 broken feet and a chronic bad ankle. He's had pins inserted, and taken out, and inserted again, in the feet as different metatarsals broke. Last year alone, by midseason he was playing with a broken hand, 2 broken feet, a sprained ankle, a badly sprained knee and a sprained neck. All at the same time. The team was fearful he tore his ACL during the 49ers game but he kept playing, and never missed any time. 

 

Coughlin said he looked like a cripple every Monday and that there was just no way you'd ever imagine him being able to practice or play the following week. But he'd always get his * together  by Friday, and look good doing it. 

 

 

Thanks for sharing so much 411.....

 

That's one heckuva post!     Hope many eyeballs get to read it.....

[BrentMc11]

Just checked back - I guess a deal has not been reached?

 

There is speculation that the Giants may be interested in bringing him back - and Bradshaw is looking to establish his market value to take an offer back. Although I will say, generally once the Giants cut someone, they are done with them. And in NY's case, they are trying to rid themselves of the guys constantly in the trainer's room. 

 

But the situation bares watching. 

 

I saw some questions about his specific injuries - let me tell you - this guy's been though the ringer. He has 2 broken feet and a chronic bad ankle. He's had pins inserted, and taken out, and inserted again, in the feet as different metatarsals broke. Last year alone, by midseason he was playing with a broken hand, 2 broken feet, a sprained ankle, a badly sprained knee and a sprained neck. All at the same time. The team was fearful he tore his ACL during the 49ers game but he kept playing, and never missed any time. 

 

Coughlin said he looked like a cripple every Monday and that there was just no way you'd ever imagine him being able to practice or play the following week. But he'd always get his .... together  by Friday, and look good doing it. 

Call me one to shy away from injury prone players....the bold is a bit too scary for me.  He may look good come Friday, but how many injections etc does it take?

 

Don't get me wrong...love Bradshaw's toughness.  I would rather have a healthy Ballard than a crippled Bradshaw....unless we have major assurance he will be ready!!!

 

Thank you Giants fans...you know a lot of us like that QB of yours for some odd reason!!!  

[toadofsteel]

It's good to have varying opinions so in that regard I can respect what you are saying. However you are assuming that the offensive line has not improved, which we all know we have made more than one move to solidify it in the off season. The highlight film shows us the potential of what Bradshaw brings if our line performs the way that we anticipate it should. I'm confident our line play will be improved this year. Even with a bad O line, Ballard was 200yards away from 1000 yards. If Bradshaw can't bring that with this years group, to me something is wrong and it isn't the Oline.

The Giants OL did improve in 2012, but there was nowhere to go but up (in 2011 when they won the sb they actually finished the season dead last in rushing yardage). However the highlight reels don't tell the whole story. For every running play that the OL played like that, there were at least 5 or 6 where they got no push at all. The fact that bradshaw got a highlight damn near any time he was able to get to the second level is really quite amazing...

[chrisfarley]

Call me one to shy away from injury prone players....the bold is a bit too scary for me.  He may look good come Friday, but how many injections etc does it take?

 

Don't get me wrong...love Bradshaw's toughness.  I would rather have a healthy Ballard than a crippled Bradshaw....unless we have major assurance he will be ready!!!

 

Thank you Giants fans...you know a lot of us like that QB of yours for some odd reason!!!  

I think he's already been rejected, just a gut feel, Grigson doesn't play around and I think Bradshaw wants some longer term "meat and potatoes". 

[toadofsteel]

I do have to reiterate that his injuries are directly caused by playing him too much. The whole reason bradshaw is still injured right now is that coughlin did NOT trust david wilson in pass protection (at week 15 wilson was the only other healthy rb on the roster)... to the point that he called in some no-names off the street that got more playing time. Bradshaw saw way more carries than he should have. The injury problem CAN be mitigated somewhat, if pagano is smart

[BrentMc11]

I think he's already been rejected, just a gut feel, Grigson doesn't play around and I think Bradshaw wants some longer term "meat and potatoes". 

When I keep seeing "chronic" foot...problems....just scares the heck out of me.  Grigson made some tough decisions with number 18, 44, and 58.  Just does not seem like him to sign an RB with chronic foot problems...and I love Bradshaw!  (Not Terry     )

[chrisfarley]

When I keep seeing "chronic" foot...problems....just scares the heck out of me.  Grigson made some tough decisions with number 18, 44, and 58.  Just does not seem like him to sign an RB with chronic foot problems...and I love Bradshaw!  (Not Terry     )

Terry, LOL  --- Yea, he also is dressed so casual for an official visit with Executive of the Year.  He still looks big and menacing but with bad wheels and has some age on him, he will not stand up to the Grigson litmus test as far as pay and length of contract (IMO)

[schwamm]

It's good to have varying opinions so in that regard I can respect what you are saying. However you are assuming that the offensive line has not improved, which we all know we have made more than one move to solidify it in the off season. The highlight film shows us the potential of what Bradshaw brings if our line performs the way that we anticipate it should. I'm confident our line play will be improved this year. Even with a bad O line, Ballard was 200yards away from 1000 yards. If Bradshaw can't bring that with this years group, to me something is wrong and it isn't the Oline.

I agree. I'm expecting more from all the backs that make the team this year.

I was commenting as a combination of how foreign that kind of blocking looks, and of how some people want to think its an excuse to say that the backs we've had would perform better with a better line. As I watched that clip, I kept thinking "holy cow, how can an RB not bust something with a hole that huge, or with 1/3 of the field sealed off? I want some of that in Indy."

What concerns me a little is the built up expectations for Bradshaw if for some reason the OLine isn't as improved as we hope.

[CanuckColt]

I wish we would just go with the RBs we have...Ballard and Donald with Kerwynn for change-of-pace.

Why ask for trouble with a 'broken' RB who will be 'in the garage' a lot?

[House]

Colts fans are fickle man lol.

[BigMac]

Colts fans are fickle man lol.

 

They sure are. Bradshaw has not missed many games due to injury in his career and he is an upgrade at running back. He won't be coming to the Colts to be number 2.

[krunk]

I want Bradshaw. The guy runs like a champion, an asset in the passing game, excellent blocker. Just a grinder. You can say what you want about his injuries but Delone Carter wasn't available very much either. And it wasn't always due to injury. At various times he just wasn't the better or most versatile back so he was inactive with scrubs like Mwelde Moore playingover him. If you're not available, you're not available. Whether you're injured or inactive it's the same to me. I'd rather have the guy who if he is on the field he has the ability to change the game. That's not Delone Carter!

[TKnight24]

I want Bradshaw. The guy runs like a champion, an asset in the passing game, excellent blocker. Just a grinder. You can say what you want about his injuries but Delone Carter wasn't available very much either. And it wasn't always due to injury. At various times he just wasn't the better or most versatile back so he was inactive with scrubs like Mwelde Moore playingover him. If you're not available, you're not available. Whether you're injured or inactive it's the same to me. I'd rather have the guy who if he is on the field he has the ability to change the game. That's not Delone Carter!

You tell em Krunk!!!

[TKnight24]

I wish we would just go with the RBs we have...Ballard and Donald with Kerwynn for change-of-pace.

Why ask for trouble with a 'broken' RB who will be 'in the garage' a lot?

Why ask for a CB who has been injured a lot?

Why ask for a safety with achilles problems?

Why ask for a WR with a history of stone hands?

Injury History obviously doesn't matter to Grigson. He will sign who he pleases and who he feels will help us the most. And the way I see it, most of these guys we're bringing in are still better than the guys we have now even when they're injured

[krunk]

Tom James @TribStarTJames

When talking to Colts running backs coach a couple of weeks ago, he(Pagano) was high on Ballard and Brown. Didn't have much to say about Carter.

10:38 AM - 6 Jun 2013

[TKnight24]

Tom James @TribStarTJames

When talking to Colts running backs coach a couple of weeks ago, he(Pagano) was high on Ballard and Brown. Didn't have much to say about Carter.

10:38 AM - 6 Jun 2013

And there you have it. Delone Carter, please pack your bags and prepare for departure

[jshipp23]

We are gonna flat out lay waste to the NFL this year!! I am upping my 13-3 prediction to 14-2 , and the 1st of many Super Bowls, O-Line much improved, D-Line, best we ever had, Secondary-best we ever had, DHB- Receiver we needed, Bradshaw-2nd back we needed and final piece.....Much like the Pacers we will fly under the radar, but after we start 7-1 the media will jump on the bandwagon...This is gonna be the most all-around devastating team we have ever had here, including the best Peyton years...All my doubts and questions have been answered , and I CAN'T wait for the season to commence....Get ready folks...

[BlueCollarColts]

We are gonna flat out lay waste to the NFL this year!! I am upping my 13-3 prediction to 14-2 , and the 1st of many Super Bowls, O-Line much improved, D-Line, best we ever had, Secondary-best we ever had, DHB- Receiver we needed, Bradshaw-2nd back we needed and final piece.....Much like the Pacers we will fly under the radar, but after we start 7-1 the media will jump on the bandwagon...This is gonna be the most all-around devastating team we have ever had here, including the best Peyton years...All my doubts and questions have been answered , and I CAN'T wait for the season to commence....Get ready folks...

We haven't even signed Ahmad Bradshaw yet, why are you so confident

[BOTT]

Why ask for a CB who has been injured a lot?

Why ask for a safety with achilles problems?

Why ask for a WR with a history of stone hands?

Injury History obviously doesn't matter to Grigson. He will sign who he pleases and who he feels will help us the most. And the way I see it, most of these guys we're bringing in are still better than the guys we have now even when they're injured

Again....Toler had one major injury and his minor injuries last year stemmed from that injury, for the most part. Landry has had his problems, but the majority of it is one Achilles injury. That is far different than Bradshaw's rash of foot problems.

[BOTT]

I wish we would just go with the RBs we have...Ballard and Donald with Kerwynn for change-of-pace.

Why ask for trouble with a 'broken' RB who will be 'in the garage' a lot?

What makes the difference? Not like his contract will be some multi year deal with significant money.

[CR91]

I'm starting to think you guys complain just to complain. I can't how many I hate brown thread there have been or how many we need a rb threads. Colts are trying to sign a proven starter in this league with plenty of gas still in the tank and your still not happy.

[TKnight24]

I'm starting to think you guys complain just to complain. I can't how many I hate brown thread there have been or how many we need a rb threads. Colts are trying to sign a proven starter in this league with plenty of gas still in the tank and your still not happy.

Like I said before, this thread is like Women

No matter how hard you try, you can just never please them

(No offense to our lady members) lol

[IndyD4U]

Like I said before, this thread is like Women

No matter how hard you try, you can just never please them

(No offense to our lady members) lol

 

So true.... secretly looking over his shoulder to make sure his fiancee is not looking.

[deedub75]

I think it's safe to say that most people on here don't necessarily hate Brown.  I don't hate Brown but if there is an upgrade over him I'm all for it .  You just can't have too many good options at RB and WR. 

[TKnight24]

So true.... secretly looking over his shoulder to make sure his fiancee is not looking.

[MrNLM]

We are gonna flat out lay waste to the NFL this year!! I am upping my 13-3 prediction to 14-2 , and the 1st of many Super Bowls, O-Line much improved, D-Line, best we ever had, Secondary-best we ever had, DHB- Receiver we needed, Bradshaw-2nd back we needed and final piece.....Much like the Pacers we will fly under the radar, but after we start 7-1 the media will jump on the bandwagon...This is gonna be the most all-around devastating team we have ever had here, including the best Peyton years...All my doubts and questions have been answered , and I CAN'T wait for the season to commence....Get ready folks...

I am excited for the Colts to sign him IF they do but, I will tell you the same thing my boss told me when I was gushing about Bradshaw... SLOW DOWN BUDDY, ARE YA GOING TO MARRY HIM!?

[Superman]

They sure are. Bradshaw has not missed many games due to injury in his career and he is an upgrade at running back. He won't be coming to the Colts to be number 2.

 

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2013/03/06/ahmad-bradshaw-foot-specialist-surgery-recovery/1969725/

 

This kind of sums it up. The guy has had several operations on his feet, including having a(nother) screw inserted earlier this year. For fans to mention that he comes with injury concerns is legitimate.

 

Doesn't mean I wouldn't want him; I agree that he'd be our best back if he signs. But let's not try to sweep his injuries under the rug like they don't exist.

[Carlos Danger]

Bradshaw not reliable?

wasn't saying that Bradshaw isn't reliable, just that he's not a change of pace from Ballard and we need a reliable speed back... Donald might not be reliable enough for the job and Williams might not be up to it, either, but that's not what Bradshaw brings. He is basically a better version of Ballard, IMO. He catches passes much better than either Brown or Ballard and is a much better blocker..

 

My only beef with Bradshaw is that he disappears for extended periods of time... Whether that was due to injury or scheme or what, IDK, but I think he is probably better than any of the backs we have currently. He is still a guy who will benefit from being part of a rotation... In that sense I guess I am saying (now, not then) that he isn't reliable enough to be "the guy"

[Qwiz]

I am excited for the Colts to sign him IF they do but, I will tell you the same thing my boss told me when I was gushing about Bradshaw... SLOW DOWN BUDDY, ARE YA GOING TO MARRY HIM!?

You should have thrown a curveball and said yes to see what his reaction would be.

[BrentMc11]

Like I said before, this thread is like Women

No matter how hard you try, you can just never please them

(No offense to our lady members) lol

I see two youngins saying this,,,and a like by 91.....I love you radiogirl.....HA HA!        

[BrentMc11]

We are gonna flat out lay waste to the NFL this year!! I am upping my 13-3 prediction to 14-2 , and the 1st of many Super Bowls, O-Line much improved, D-Line, best we ever had, Secondary-best we ever had, DHB- Receiver we needed, Bradshaw-2nd back we needed and final piece.....Much like the Pacers we will fly under the radar, but after we start 7-1 the media will jump on the bandwagon...This is gonna be the most all-around devastating team we have ever had here, including the best Peyton years...All my doubts and questions have been answered , and I CAN'T wait for the season to commence....Get ready folks...

You know what....can I just say that I love the optimism!!!  Thanks jshipp...I needed that after a whole lot of Brown and Carter haters here....

 

Some saying Moore from Montana better than Carter.....laughable.  Go             !!!

[TKnight24]

@mchappell51: #colts and Ahmad Bradshaw still working on possible deal. Isn't dead and isn't done.

[Dustin]

Brad Wells (BBS) ‏@StampedeBlue24m

Shocking RT @gmbremer: Associated Press confirms #Colts and RB Ahmad Bradshaw are still talking. Hang up, reportedly, is over cash.

[jshipp23]

I am excited for the Colts to sign him IF they do but, I will tell you the same thing my boss told me when I was gushing about Bradshaw... SLOW DOWN BUDDY, ARE YA GOING TO MARRY HIM!?

Not Bradshaw in particular he is a nice piece...I am officially not calling Grigson Griswald anymore he has answered every question...Still don't think he is done..We need another proven CB and a number 1 receiver eventually if not this year next....I do believe we have the pieces to be in the Super Bowl conversation at this point for sure...WE WILL SIGN HIM...NO DOUBT.

[Big Red]

What's exciting to me about Bradshaw visiting the Colts is that better players (than we currently have) are starting to see Indy (Luck era) as a strong option to go to contend for a championship.  Currently it seems we are seeing the "injury-plagued" and "under-achieving" type of free agents interested in the Colts.  After another strong season or two, the top level UFAs will be jumping all over the Colts bandwagon.  Wishful thinking??  I think not. 

[John Dee]

Just checked back - I guess a deal has not been reached?

 

There is speculation that the Giants may be interested in bringing him back - and Bradshaw is looking to establish his market value to take an offer back. Although I will say, generally once the Giants cut someone, they are done with them. And in NY's case, they are trying to rid themselves of the guys constantly in the trainer's room. 

 

But the situation bares watching. 

 

I saw some questions about his specific injuries - let me tell you - this guy's been though the ringer. He has 2 broken feet and a chronic bad ankle. He's had pins inserted, and taken out, and inserted again, in the feet as different metatarsals broke. Last year alone, by midseason he was playing with a broken hand, 2 broken feet, a sprained ankle, a badly sprained knee and a sprained neck. All at the same time. The team was fearful he tore his ACL during the 49ers game but he kept playing, and never missed any time. 

 

Coughlin said he looked like a cripple every Monday and that there was just no way you'd ever imagine him being able to practice or play the following week. But he'd always get his * together  by Friday, and look good doing it. 

THIS  ^

[John Dee]

And I guarantee the "hang up" is GUARANTEED cash...

 

For one year sure...  but AB is seeking his last BIG "CHACHINGGGG" contract...

 

If Indy signs him long term they will regret it....

 

 

Brad Wells (BBS) ‏@StampedeBlue24m

Shocking RT @gmbremer: Associated Press confirms #Colts and RB Ahmad Bradshaw are still talking. Hang up, reportedly, is over cash.

 

[krunk]

If we can get Bradshaw signed, hopfully the trio of Brown, Ballad, and Bradshaw will look something like this. Also hopefully our line will block like this as well!