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Wow, that was painful, and from an optimistic stand-point I think he jumped the gun on some of his opinions.

Something that hasn't been mentioned yet by anyone I've seen (but should be) is that we also played without 2 of our 3 best WR's yesterday. Not that it'd have made a massive difference in the final outcome, but even just Collie back would've given Luck a boost because Austin can get open and make plays.

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We lost by three touchdowns, we turned the ball over five times, and we gave up six "big plays" (rushes for 15+ yards, passes for 25+ yards; really, there were another 10+ big plays that just don't fit the criteria).

Why would the writer be impressed?

Everything he said in the article was true. The good news is that I think we can be better than we were yesterday. Cut down on mistakes: don't miss easy kicks, don't commit penalties on 3rd and 10, don't fumble kickoff returns, don't drop passes, etc. Simple improvements that would drastically change the look of this game. Maybe we wouldn't be good enough to win it, but we'd be looking at a much different final score.

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We lost by three touchdowns, we turned the ball over five times, and we gave up six "big plays" (rushes for 15+ yards, passes for 25+ yards; really, there were another 10+ big plays that just don't fit the criteria).

Why would the writer be impressed?

Everything he said in the article was true. The good news is that I think we can be better than we were yesterday. Cut down on mistakes: don't miss easy kicks, don't commit penalties on 3rd and 10, don't fumble kickoff returns, don't drop passes, etc. Simple improvements that would drastically change the look of this game. Maybe we wouldn't be good enough to win it, but we'd be looking at a much different final score.

I didn't come away from that game thinking we were close to as bad as it looked. Stuff like that happens sometimes.

I remember that game last year or the year before when the Patriots put up like 60 points on the Jets. The Jets were

not anywhere near as bad as that score indicated. They just ran into a better team that day. It happens....

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Doyle might be very critical of the Colts but he sure is praise-worthy of Luck in this article. And that translates into praiseworthiness for the future of the Colts. All in all, I wasn't too disappointed in how we played and definitely saw the hopes of future glory. Of course, I'm finally on the otherside of watching the IU Hoosiers go through their growing pains to reach the promised land. So, can't wait for that day to come for my Colts as well.

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We lost by three touchdowns, we turned the ball over five times, and we gave up six "big plays" (rushes for 15+ yards, passes for 25+ yards; really, there were another 10+ big plays that just don't fit the criteria).

Why would the writer be impressed?

Everything he said in the article was true. The good news is that I think we can be better than we were yesterday. Cut down on mistakes: don't miss easy kicks, don't commit penalties on 3rd and 10, don't fumble kickoff returns, don't drop passes, etc. Simple improvements that would drastically change the look of this game. Maybe we wouldn't be good enough to win it, but we'd be looking at a much different final score.

For the most part he was right except for this comment..

"Well, slow down. Smith was wrong about one fact in that quote, the one about "finding different receivers." Luck wasn't great at that, but that's not Luck's fault. More than half (15) of his 23 completions went to Wayne or rookie tight end Coby Fleener. Luck targeted that duo 28 times, including 18 just for Wayne. Why? Because the rest of the receiving corps isn't any good."

He did target Reggie and Fleener, but he didn't mention that the Colts were missing their #2 reciever Collie, and a very good rookie reciever/kick return specialist named T.Y.Hilton.

To say that the rest aren't good is way over the line....though, with the way the Colts O-Line played, it might not have made much more of a difference.

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Yup, he was a tad too harsh on all the young WRs, practically calling them garbage. To claim young WRs aren't good when they barely have played in any games is a little extreme, you have to atleast give them a few games before writing them off. Going up against DBs that are experienced like the Bears is rather tough for young WRs.

Same goes with almost the whole team. A lot of them, it was their first real game. Going against the Bears D is rough, but to go against a monster like Marshall and Forte is just as rough. You don't have to be young to get burned by those 2 star players.

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For the most part he was right except for this comment..

"Well, slow down. Smith was wrong about one fact in that quote, the one about "finding different receivers." Luck wasn't great at that, but that's not Luck's fault. More than half (15) of his 23 completions went to Wayne or rookie tight end Coby Fleener. Luck targeted that duo 28 times, including 18 just for Wayne. Why? Because the rest of the receiving corps isn't any good."

He did target Reggie and Fleener, but he didn't mention that the Colts were missing their #2 reciever Collie, and a very good rookie reciever/kick return specialist named T.Y.Hilton.

To say that the rest aren't good is way over the line....though, with the way the Colts O-Line played, it might not have made much more of a difference.

Yeah, he was overly pessimistic on our young guys, especially at receiver.

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Something that hasn't been mentioned yet by anyone I've seen (but should be) is that we also played without 2 of our 3 best WR's yesterday. Not that it'd have made a massive difference in the final outcome, but even just Collie back would've given Luck a boost because Austin can get open and make plays.

Agree 100%.

Collie is important but I just hope he can stay healthy for the entire season.

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Statements like this one really burn me from journalists and sports writers:

"Manning was playing at home, Luck on the road. Manning had Tarik Glenn, an eventual three-time Pro Bowler, protecting his blind side; Luck has Anthony Castonzo, a second-year pro who hasn't (yet?) distinguished himself."

First of all Gregg Doyel, this is the Luck era now not the Manning era anymore. Drop it okay and let's stay current and relevant sir. Thank you. Second of all, comparing Tarik Glenn to Anthony Castanzo is incredibly unfair on a skill and sheer NFL experience level. Third of all, the line is still in a state of flux and Castonzo is just coming off an injury and beginning to discover his role on the line. Relax and let's not throw the baby out with the bathwater Mr. Doyel. Inhale, exhale, and take a big breath sir.

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While our D started off well, we went back to the infamous Greg Manusky zone coverage shell that he showed with the Chargers last year and did not make up for the absence of Freeney with creative blitzes, IMO. I see the Chargers on MNF tonight and their D is flying around. If the Chargers are a top 10 D this year, it would be the 2nd year in a row that a team that Greg Manusky left would have seen addition by subtraction of Greg Manusky in terms of defensive improvement. That would be flat out hard to ignore.

We need infusion of experienced talent at OL via free agency, that should be our number one priority in the offseason in free agency, and then everything else.

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So this guy speaks the truth and you guys hate it.......

How can this man speak the truth with a lack of perspective exactly? Part of being an investigative reporter requires some historical knowledge and necessary distance, especially as it pertains to a complete football overhaul. Nothing this reporter said should be interpreted as gospel or written in stone either.

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Everyone always wants to be the first to make the big statement. It reminds of back when we had Peyton, every year neon deon would predict this was the year our Colts would suck. The year he was finally right, he would constantly ask the producers to play the tape where he called out the Colts in that years off season. Completely ignoring the 5+ years he missed on his prediction.

If we're still bad in the years to come, this guy is going to brag all over the place that he called it before anyone else. But if the more likely outcome happens and we improve from year to year, the author will forget he even wrote the article.

"Some day Luck will put up great numbers like that (20 of 25, 320 yards, two scores, no picks) because he's going to be a great quarterback" I didnt appreciate this cheap shot. He was of by 1 on completions and attempts, but those are Bob's stats from week 1. 19 of 26 for 320 yards, 2 tds and no ints

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Gregg Doyel of CBS Sports threw the hammer down on the COLTS calling them PITIFUL and giving props to Andrew Luck for having to play with such a PITIFUL team and behind a PITIFUL o-line. Says he will be special and for him to do as good as he did playing on a PITIFUL team, showed him a ton.

Feels we will win very few games and that we are terrible.

Well, it was more of a Jack-Hammer. Chicken Crap into Chicken Salad ???? wow :???:

:???: http://www.cbssports...f-pitiful-colts

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I saved the article. I want to read it again when we make the playoffs.

You are going to be holding onto that article for awhile. You will not be seeing the Colts in the playoffs this season.

The writer is spot on even with the over the top tone he took.

Our team just does not have a lot of talent right now and the talent we have is really young and unproven.

I think a lot of people are just so upset because they had their bubble popped a bit. We have 5-6 winnable games on our schedule and hopefully we can pull those out and stay competitive in the rest while Luck and his young WRs and TEs mesh. Then next offseason we can get Luck some serious help along the OL because that group other then LT needs an entire makeover. Defensively we need some upgrades as well.

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The writer is just mad because he wasn't invited to the after party. LOL Luck threw him a free jersey for his dismay and then the dude wrote the article. LOL I think there is something to be said about what happened Sunday. I'm guessin' SEVERAL of the Bears players, with sand still in their panties, were looking for a little SB revenge on players who weren't even there to play in that game. I'm not really surprised the Bears won, they were expected to. (Which has nothing to say about the snotty Bears fans who littered my office with Bears crap) My point being that the Bears were really UP for this game, and an experienced team. Our team is young and looking for its identity! Our defense started the first 2 series very well. Can we expect more of that later? The offense struggled to stay on the field, so obviously we couldn't score points. I'm not saying the defense played great later, but there are certainly points in this game that we can take as positives. I don't think our team is completely lousy, they are just not yet complete. Keep the hopes up, our team will get MUCH better!

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Doyle might be very critical of the Colts but he sure is praise-worthy of Luck in this article. And that translates into praiseworthiness for the future of the Colts. All in all, I wasn't too disappointed in how we played and definitely saw the hopes of future glory. Of course, I'm finally on the otherside of watching the IU Hoosiers go through their growing pains to reach the promised land. So, can't wait for that day to come for my Colts as well.

I hope your talking about the basketball team and not the football team cause they got a "few" years to go. Losing their QB in a pretty much worthless non-conference game didn't help them one bit either. But like the moth to the flame I will be watching them Saturday night against Ball State - GO HOOSIERS!!!

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Surprised at how few people are objective and see the truth in this article.

You guys have to see the truth, accept it and hope the front office makes this right.

What truth , it's all opinion, I can't take his strong opinion seriously given this is a new team playing its first real game together. I mean let's get a few games played before saying the entire team, minus Luck, stinks. Hes just being short sighted.

If he would've just said "the team stunk in its first game" I would respect his opinion and would agree. But that's not what he said, he went ahead and labeled the team as a loser. That's about as foolish as predicting a Superbowl winner after Week1.

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For the most part he was right except for this comment..

"Well, slow down. Smith was wrong about one fact in that quote, the one about "finding different receivers." Luck wasn't great at that, but that's not Luck's fault. More than half (15) of his 23 completions went to Wayne or rookie tight end Coby Fleener. Luck targeted that duo 28 times, including 18 just for Wayne. Why? Because the rest of the receiving corps isn't any good."

He did target Reggie and Fleener, but he didn't mention that the Colts were missing their #2 reciever Collie, and a very good rookie reciever/kick return specialist named T.Y.Hilton.

To say that the rest aren't good is way over the line....though, with the way the Colts O-Line played, it might not have made much more of a difference.

When you have defensive lineman in the backfield with you in less than a second, how is any reciever going to be open and if so how would Luck ever find them? No time to even think to throw. O-line has got to get better for D. All the above to have a chance
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