Colts have 4th pick (Official Discussion Thread)

[smittywerb]

On 2/8/2023 at 11:01 AM, chad72 said:

 

That is why the GM was let go. That is why Kliff Kingsbury is chilling in some Aloha like destination knowing that not many coaches can make it work with Murray.

 

kliff was very much the problem also.  I didn’t think he was going to last past this year even with a healthy Murray.  Kliff had Mahomes in college and couldn’t even make noise with him

[danlhart87]

Saints are apparently trying to get Carr I have heard

[Stephen]

45 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

Saints are apparently trying to get Carr I have heard

Carr would do well there especially with their defense

[Moosejawcolt]

On 2/8/2023 at 9:44 AM, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Things with Murray and AZ are not good.  Really can’t ignore the possibility they could draft one at 3.  I think the more likely route is they do what eagles did and take one as insurance in second or third but can’t rule out one at 3. 

 

So here is why I don't  trust Balard if the rumours are true.  Colts were apparently on record as a team interested in trading for  Murray.  He llike Fields and Love. I am on record as not wanting any of these guys pre draft. Look it up. So  yes I would make a  better Gm than  transparent Ballard.

[crazycolt1]

3 minutes ago, Moosejawcolt said:

So here is why I don't  trust Balard if the rumours are true.  Colts were apparently on record as a team interested in trading for  Murray.  He llike Fields and Love. I am on record as not wanting any of these guys pre draft. Look it up. So  yes I would make a  better Gm than  transparent Ballard.

So you think you are qualified for one of the 32 jobs in the world? 

Pretty deep pile of horse dung in my opinion.  

[craigerb]

9 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

He was responding to Colts fans who asked him questions about the Bears. 
 

The same Bears that the Colts might trade with.   A trade up for the first overall pick or a trade up for Fields.  
 

That’s who cares. 

So they're both wrong. This drivel should be in the NFL general forum to discuss if Fields has 2500 passing yards next season. Again, who cares?

[NewColtsFan]

6 minutes ago, craigerb said:

So they're both wrong. This drivel should be in the NFL general forum to discuss if Fields has 2500 passing yards next season. Again, who cares?

The people who asked the question of the visiting Bears fan.   That’s who cares. 
 

I don’t know why you’re so bent?

 

There were simple straightforward questions with answers that were offered as opinions not fact.   There was no harm to anyone.  

 

 

[jvan1973]

59 minutes ago, Moosejawcolt said:

So here is why I don't  trust Balard if the rumours are true.  Colts were apparently on record as a team interested in trading for  Murray.  He llike Fields and Love. I am on record as not wanting any of these guys pre draft. Look it up. So  yes I would make a  better Gm than  transparent Ballard.

[danlhart87]

If Colts stay at 4 and keep 35 who would yall want at 35

[Solid84]

38 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

If Colts stay at 4 and keep 35 who would yall want at 35

If we can get John Michael Schmitz at 35 then him otherwise one of:

 

Cody Mauch

Will McDonald

Andre Carter II

Darnell Washington

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Stroud on Mcafee says he was dealing with a little bit of a injury during the season so he wasn’t able to use his legs as much.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

 

[DougDew]

3 hours ago, danlhart87 said:

If Colts stay at 4 and keep 35 who would yall want at 35

Darnell Wright OT/G Tennessee.   Or the best Corner on the board...lots of opinions about who that might be.

 

Also, that high 2nd rounder can turn into a mid second and a mid third rounder to go along with pick 79.  Dropping from 35 to 55 may not be a big drop off in talent and then we get the extra 3rd.

 

For a C, I'd like to see Joe Tippman, Wisconsin.  But he's a pick 79 guy, IMO.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Stroud said today on Mcafee he won’t be running the 40 at the combine. It’s yet to be determined if he will be throwing at combine. Says he has nothing to hide though.

[Stephen]

3 hours ago, Solid84 said:

If we can get John Michael Schmitz at 35 then him otherwise one of:

 

Cody Mauch

Will McDonald

Andre Carter II

Darnell Washington

Hyatt

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

 

[GwinnettColt]

38 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

 

I hope whoever pays that fortune is quite happy with their purchase....as long as Indy doesn't do it.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Just now, GwinnettColt said:

I hope whoever pays that fortune is quite happy with their purchase....as long as Indy doesn't do it.

Bears will get a good return I doubt it will be unbelievable. 

[danlhart87]

 

[coltsfeva]

DE Will MacDonald or OL Mauch

Focus on the trenches in the early rounds 

 

I think they might be fine in the secondary, at running back and TE (although they could pick up depth in the late rounds)

[#12.]

46 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

 

 

You know you're a Colts fan when we're looking at photos of the draft stage two nights before the Super Bowl.  

[danlhart87]

9 minutes ago, #12. said:

 

You know you're a Colts fan when we're looking at photos of the draft stage two nights before the Super Bowl.  

I would anyway I love the draft

[Indyfan4life]

39 minutes ago, #12. said:

 

You know you're a Colts fan when we're looking at photos of the draft stage two nights before the Super Bowl.  

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Josh McCown  was just hired as panthers QB coach. Let the speculation begin lol.

 

 

[NewColtsFan]

4 hours ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Stroud said today on Mcafee he won’t be running the 40 at the combine. It’s yet to be determined if he will be throwing at combine. Says he has nothing to hide though.

Not running to me is a non-issue.  But not throwing?!?     I’d like to hear his reasons for that.   Potential red flag for me.  

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

3 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

Not running to me is a non-issue.  But not throwing?!?     I’d like to hear his reasons for that.   Potential red flag for me.  

I heard today a few of the QB may only throw on their pro day.

[#12.]

This was much easier when you had the #1 pick and Luck was in the draft.  There is no clear order at QB.  You don't have a top 3 pick.  People assume Ballard won't draft Young(who knows if that's true).  Irsay is impossible to predict.  If Ballard were making all of these decisions alone, things might be easier to predict.  

 

Who knows what they want at coach and QB.  I'm not sure they know what they want.  

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

5 minutes ago, #12. said:

This was much easier when you had the #1 pick and Luck was in the draft.  There is no clear order at QB.  You don't have a top 3 pick.  People assume Ballard won't draft Young(who knows if that's true).  Irsay is impossible to predict.  If Ballard were making all of these decisions alone, things might be easier to predict.  

 

Who knows what they want at coach and QB.  I'm not sure they know what they want.  

Every team will have their preference what they like ANC’s who they want. Doesn’t mean that a team should move up or go get the one they desire.

[NewColtsFan]

47 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

I heard today a few of the QB may only throw on their pro day.

Thanks.  Always appreciate good info like that.   Not surprised but still a little disappointed. 
 

One of the things scouts like to look for at the combine is competitiveness.   If players are being measured against the other, how does that player step up to meet or beat what his competition has done.   Scouts want competitiveness in all positions, but especially at quarterback where leadership is everything. 
 

I don’t think not throwing at the combine is a good look.   The Pro Day workout is very, VERY scripted.  It’s designed to make the QB look good and minimize their flaws.   Scouts are less impressed there.   At quarterback, a scouts view is typically more is better.  

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

LOL

 

 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

 

[Stephen]

Stroud is number 1 on my board

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Surprised none of the other quarterbacks did media rounds from the Super Bowl.

 

 

[Stephen]

7 hours ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

 

They most certainly are getting unbelievable offers. Infact I offered them one cent to trade the number one pick to the colts lol

[Solid84]

11 hours ago, Stephen said:

Hyatt

Meh, I don't see it.

[jvan1973]

9 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

Thanks.  Always appreciate good info like that.   Not surprised but still a little disappointed. 
 

One of the things scouts like to look for at the combine is competitiveness.   If players are being measured against the other, how does that player step up to meet or beat what his competition has done.   Scouts want competitiveness in all positions, but especially at quarterback where leadership is everything. 
 

I don’t think not throwing at the combine is a good look.   The Pro Day workout is very, VERY scripted.  It’s designed to make the QB look good and minimize their flaws.   Scouts are less impressed there.   At quarterback, a scouts view is typically more is better.  

Andrew didn't throw at the combine either

[jvan1973]

13 hours ago, #12. said:

 

You know you're a Colts fan when we're looking at photos of the draft stage two nights before the Super Bowl.  

As are 30 other teams

[DougDew]

9 hours ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

LOL

 

 

What a dumb thing to say.   Compare's himself to a tiger.  Who is this guy, Michael Jackson?  Sometimes, an outward displays of toughness is simply a way to conceal deeply rooted wimpyness.   He's my number 1 QB in this draft still, but this stuff doesn't help.

 

If I care enough, I'll have to look at some tape to see what the scouts mean by saying he "crumples" under pressure.  Its not the same thing as failing under pressure.  It might imply that they think he would curl up into a fetal position if he had the time.  See if he ever delivers a blow or always cringes when contact happens.