CB Phillip Gaines to visit Colts

[PrincetonTiger]

1 minute ago, Freenyfan102 said:

Gawd this guy sucks why bring him in and not Melvin at least Melvin is healty

Melvin is looking elsewhere so we(Fans) need to move on

[krunk]

40 minutes ago, Gabriel Alexander Morillo said:

Oh man. You guys that are banking on him randomly being good in a zone shame despite him sucking the big one in Man are a special kind of Optimistic lol 

or maybe you're putting the words banking In peoples mouths and being negative like always. Nobody's projecting him to start. Just stating what is likely the better scheme fit. I know its hard for you to do much more than be a dissenter.Can you tell us why hes here if he truly sucks so bad? Obviously they see a use for him somewhere as a reserve or something.

[Buck Showalter]

8 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said:

Nothing should be based on what fans feel

Exactly, those in charge of organizing everything at Lucas Oil Stadium for spectators on game day can take "fans opinions" into account when trying to maximize the "Gameday Experience"...

 

But any GM losing sleep over fan opinion probably won't be a GM very long, or so goes the cliche that some seem to forget...

[Colts_Fan12]

Well if this guy is signed to start then our secondary will get worse how's that possible

[PrincetonTiger]

1 minute ago, Buck Showalter said:

Exactly, those in charge of organizing everything at Lucas Oil Stadium for spectators on game day can take "fans opinions" into account when trying to maximize the "Gameday Experience"...

 

But any GM losing sleep on fan opinion probably won't be a GM very long, or so goes the cliche that some seem to forget...

Still nightmares of it when I was coaching 

[shasta519]

1 hour ago, chad72 said:

Philip Gaines is the guy I remember Peyton picking on along with that Fleming CB guy with the Chiefs when Peyton was playing for the Broncos in 2014. They were mainly avoiding Marcus Peters' side and picking on whoever was on the other side. 

 

Can someone tell me who was the Chiefs CB that fought for the ball vs Moncrief to come up with an INT vs Luck when the Chiefs came here to LOS? That was the game Nick Foles filled in for Alex Smith.

 

Does anyone remember?

 

I think you have your years mixed up. Are you thinking of Sean Smith and not Peters?

[chad72]

2 minutes ago, shastamasta said:

 

I think you have your years mixed up. Are you thinking of Sean Smith and not Peters?

 

Yep, you are right. It was 2015, not 2014.

 

The game where Peyton threw a pick six to Marcus Peters but came back to send the game to OT on Thursday Night Football.  

 

However, Gaines, recently has been abused by QBs, so I am not sure what Ballard sees in him based on form lately.

[shasta519]

1 minute ago, chad72 said:

 

Yep, you are right. It was 2015, not 2014.

 

The game where Peyton threw a pick six to Marcus Peters but came back to send the game to OT on Thursday Night Football.  

 

However, Gaines, recently has been abused by QBs, so I am not sure what Ballard sees in him based on form lately.

 

I don't know what he sees either. He was there when they drafted him...but I don't really see anything from the recent seasons (plural) that would make him a desirable target...at least not his early in FA. The Chiefs drafted 6 CBs in the three years Ballard was there. Maybe he is a numbers guy...and we will see him bring in 2-3 guys to fill one spot.

 

[Coltsman1788]

Lord help our Colts.

[Indyfan4life]

I highly doubt he’s being looked at as a starter. I’d say backup/special teams at best. 

[Buck Showalter]

2 minutes ago, Coltsman1788 said:

Lord help our Colts.

I can feel Duke Tumatoe's career making a resurgence!!!

[Buck Showalter]

Haven't seen it mentioned that Ballard probably played a part when Gaines was drafted in KC. So there is obviously that connection for what ever that's worth...

[TdungyW/12]

2 hours ago, Fisticuffs111 said:

Yeah, not sure about this one. Chiefs fans were basically mocking him on the way out.

I swear if we sign this guy and let Melvin walk I’m going to extremely upset!!! 

 

CB put some cash out there for good players already. U low ball people and maybe that’s why we don’t get any big names wanting to come ... they know your cheap! 

[Coltsman1788]

2 hours ago, MTC said:

Chiefs fans hate him. He has a low PFF score. No thanks.

 

 

Just a sampling of Chief fans comments shortly after his release...

 

 "I believe most of us remember the Steelers game where Gaines had an easy INT but tipped it to Brown for a TD. That's sums up Gaines career in KC.'

 

"Finally!! One move from the staff (Reid or Veach) that is very very good; letting a player go without fans upset or questioning why they did it."

 

"A year late."

 

"Possibly two. And actually the chiefs got fooled. Dorsey should never have picked him to begin with. Five wasted years at the position."

 

 

"Arena Football League welcomes Phillip Gaines." 

 

 

Not very reassuring to say the least. We look like free agency bottom feeders even hosting this guy.  You would think the Colts had  $2 of cap space. 

[JColts72]

11 minutes ago, Coltsman1788 said:

Just a sampling of Chief fans comments shortly after his release...

 

 "I believe most of us remember the Steelers game where Gaines had an easy INT but tipped it to Brown for a TD. That's sums up Gaines career in KC.'

 

"Finally!! One move from the staff (Reid or Veach) that is very very good; letting a player go without fans upset or questioning why they did it."

 

"A year late."

 

"Possibly two. And actually the chiefs got fooled. Dorsey should never have picked him to begin with. Five wasted years at the position."

 

 

"Arena Football League welcomes Phillip Gaines." 

 

 

Not very reassuring to say the least. We look like free agency bottom feeders even hosting this guy.  You would think the Colts had  $2 of cap space. 

$2 plus 70mil. It really has become a bad joke with such approach so far. Every hole cannot be filled in the draft. The left overs from FA are not worth over paying. The only one on way to visit and who is actually good, may be Pugh.

[JColts72]

38 minutes ago, TdungyW/12 said:

I swear if we sign this guy and let Melvin walk I’m going to extremely upset!!! 

 

CB put some cash out there for good players already. U low ball people and maybe that’s why we don’t get any big names wanting to come ... they know your cheap! 

And realize this team is in serious rebuild mode. 

[TdungyW/12]

10 minutes ago, JColts72 said:

And realize this team is in serious rebuild mode. 

Well Its official Melvin signed with the raiders .... CB you * .... didn’t think our GM situation could go from horrible at throwing money around at old people to having a cheapskate lowball players and sign depth mediocre young guys. 

[krunk]

55 minutes ago, TdungyW/12 said:

I swear if we sign this guy and let Melvin walk I’m going to extremely upset!!! 

 

CB put some cash out there for good players already. U low ball people and maybe that’s why we don’t get any big names wanting to come ... they know your cheap! 

How quickly we forget what most people thought of Melvin when he first joined the Colts! Go back and look at some of the comments. You know the guy that got relentlessly burnt by Tom Brady....

[TdungyW/12]

2 minutes ago, krunk said:

How quickly we forget what most people thought of Melvin when he first joined the Colts! Go back and look at some of the comments. You know the guy that got relentlessly burnt by Tom Brady....

Yeah I know I remember .... I thought he had potential just needed Reps and time .... 

 

and LOL EVERYONE gets burned by TB12. 

[krunk]

This team defensively right now has more talent on it than when Tony Dungy took over in the first one maybe two years. After CB gets done bringing in and signing his targets, plus a strong draft I believe you guys will feel better. Its not as far off as it looks.Gaines I'm sure wouldn't be the starter. Competition piece just like Mingo and Hunt were last year.

[Coltsman1788]

55 minutes ago, JColts72 said:

$2 plus 70mil. It really has become a bad joke with such approach so far. Every hole cannot be filled in the draft. The left overs from FA are not worth over paying. The only one on way to visit and who is actually good, may be Pugh.

Agreed on Pugh.  If we sign him then I can at least feel content about something the Colts are doing.

[Coltsman1788]

32 minutes ago, krunk said:

This team defensively right now has more talent on it than when Tony Dungy took over in the first one maybe two years. After CB gets done bringing in and signing his targets, plus a strong draft I believe you guys will feel better. Its not as far off as it looks.Gaines I'm sure wouldn't be the starter. Competition piece just like Mingo and Hunt were last year.

If signed Gaines would potentially only be an injury away from starting.  And with our injury plagued luck, it's a good bet that happens at some point next season.

[MacDee1975]

5 hours ago, Fisticuffs111 said:

Yeah, not sure about this one. Chiefs fans were basically mocking him on the way out.

 

Are Chief fans much smarter than the Colts fans that mocked Patrick Robinson and Tim Jennings on their way out?

 

 

[deedub75]

6 hours ago, HectorRoberts said:

How is he an upgrade over Melvin?

 

Cheaper maybe. Ballard seems to like cheap. 

[Fisticuffs111]

1 hour ago, MacDee1975 said:

 

Are Chief fans much smarter than the Colts fans that mocked Patrick Robinson and Tim Jennings on their way out?

 

 

Robinson played out of position here. I didn't expect him to go and ball out with the Eagles, but it was well-known that he was better as a slot corner.

Tim Jennings, yeah. That one holds up.

[Gabriel Alexander Morillo]

11 hours ago, krunk said:

or maybe you're putting the words banking In peoples mouths and being negative like always. Nobody's projecting him to start. Just stating what is likely the better scheme fit. I know its hard for you to do much more than be a dissenter.Can you tell us why hes here if he truly sucks so bad? Obviously they see a use for him somewhere as a reserve or something.

I didn’t put any words in anyone’s mouths.  I was very specific in that I said “Those banking on him being better” Do you include yourself in that group?

 

 

im not dissenting. I don’t even care about this upcoming Colts Season. This is the year of the World Cup and my first year of Vet School. I have much bigger worries lol. Ballard can be stingy or carefree in his spending as long as he gets good people. But Gaines succccks

[jchandler7]

Gaines sucks....but, he'll be cheap so Ballard will probably sign the scrub. Seems to be all about the bejamins with Ballard. Pay below average players average money but never pay top dollor for above average players. 

[crazycolt1]

8 hours ago, Fisticuffs111 said:

Robinson played out of position here. I didn't expect him to go and ball out with the Eagles, but it was well-known that he was better as a slot corner.

Tim Jennings, yeah. That one holds up.

Jennings was not a fit in the Colts defense when he was here.

[crazycolt1]

1 hour ago, jchandler7 said:

Gaines sucks....but, he'll be cheap so Ballard will probably sign the scrub. Seems to be all about the bejamins with Ballard. Pay below average players average money but never pay top dollor for above average players. 

Horse dung.

[1959Colts]

Signed with Bills

 

Phillip Gaines signs with Bills

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2018/03/29/phillip-gaines-signs-with-bills/

[bleevit]

I don't know this guy from a fancy hat, but I would almost guarantee CB has some considerable knowledge of his capabilities. The injuries are concerning.

[chad72]

Well, the Gaines I wanted (E.J. Gaines) signed with the Browns. The Browns do not have a shortage of talent with all their signings. Now, all the pressure is on Hue Jackson to deliver at least 4 wins, IMO, 1 win per quarter. Anything less, he is gone.

[NewColtsFan]

4 minutes ago, chad72 said:

Well, the Gaines I wanted (E.J. Gaines) signed with the Browns. The Browns do not have a shortage of talent with all their signings. Now, all the pressure is on Hue Jackson to deliver at least 4 wins, IMO, 1 win per quarter. Anything less, he is gone.

 

I think with Dorsey as the new GM and Tyrod Taylor as the new QB, and all the talent they will draft soon,  I think the minimum acceptable for wins would be in the 6-7 range.   I think 4 wins will get Jackson fired.  

[The Peytonator]

28 minutes ago, chad72 said:

Well, the Gaines I wanted (E.J. Gaines) signed with the Browns. The Browns do not have a shortage of talent with all their signings. Now, all the pressure is on Hue Jackson to deliver at least 4 wins, IMO, 1 win per quarter. Anything less, he is gone.

 

Hue Jackson is such a bad coach that four wins with a reasonably talented roster would be looked at as a success. I guess that’s what you expect from the team that had a parade for going 0-16. 

[crazycolt1]

3 hours ago, The Peytonator said:

 

Hue Jackson is such a bad coach that four wins with a reasonably talented roster would be looked at as a success. I guess that’s what you expect from the team that had a parade for going 0-16. 

You cant look at Jacksons record as a measuring stick as to what kind of coach he is.

For two years the Browns have tanked with all the movements they have made. Trading, cutting and setting up this years draft is something they been working on for two years.

I have a feeling the days of ragging on the Browns are coming to an end. For one thing Dorsey knows how to build a team and he also knows how to draft. 

IMO they will win more than 4 games this season. I say 8-8 or 9-7.  Next year they will contend for that division.

[GoColts8818]

On 3/16/2018 at 3:09 PM, HectorRoberts said:

How is he an upgrade over Melvin?

Who said he was?

[Goatface Killah]

On 3/16/2018 at 5:53 PM, Coltsman1788 said:

Just a sampling of Chief fans comments shortly after his release...

 

 "I believe most of us remember the Steelers game where Gaines had an easy INT but tipped it to Brown for a TD. That's sums up Gaines career in KC.'

 

"Finally!! One move from the staff (Reid or Veach) that is very very good; letting a player go without fans upset or questioning why they did it."

 

"A year late."

 

"Possibly two. And actually the chiefs got fooled. Dorsey should never have picked him to begin with. Five wasted years at the position."

 

 

"Arena Football League welcomes Phillip Gaines." 

 

 

Not very reassuring to say the least. We look like free agency bottom feeders even hosting this guy.  You would think the Colts had  $2 of cap space. 

Why do you put so much value into a few posts from people you dont know?

 

He stayed with the same team for 5 years in a league where people get cut at the drop of a hat. That means a lot more to me than a few opinions. 

[Coltsman1788]

On 3/30/2018 at 12:52 AM, GoatBeard said:

Why do you put so much value into a few posts from people you dont know?

 

He stayed with the same team for 5 years in a league where people get cut at the drop of a hat. That means a lot more to me than a few opinions. 

i could care less about this at this point.  Just happy the Colts didn't sign this guy.  He can continue to suck some place else.