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12 minutes ago, HOF19 said:

A lot of talk on ESPN this morning about should Eagles trade Foles so it made me wonder if the Colts would stop and consider that or not  !

 

Dear God...

 

The number of levels in which this is just a bad post are many.

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16 minutes ago, HOF19 said:

A lot of talk on ESPN this morning about should Eagles trade Foles so it made me wonder if the Colts would stop and consider that or not  !

Foles earned himself a QB1 spot with his performance during the playoffs.  His costs will be multiple picks, likely 1st rounders. You dont trade that for someone to ride the bench...  Now if for some reason, Philly just cuts him, which would be the dumbest thing in football history, then sure, make a run at him with some coin.  but dont mortage the future for a back up QB.  Personally, I'd love for him to be our backup but its not happening and it shouldnt happen.  Dude deserves better.  I think he ends up in either Denver, New York with a remote possibility of Jacksonville.

3 minutes ago, jskinnz said:

 

Dear God...

 

The number of levels in which this is just a bad post are many.

What? I think he asked a fair question.  Better than the lets trade Luck and start Brissett crap thats all over this forum.

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Bad idea.

 

Philadelphia is the best possible team for him. He has a head coach that tailors the offense to his QB, a good OL, a good platoon of backs, playmaking WRs and a great defense.

 

He has definitely earned looks at being a QB1 but he's only good in that Philadelphia system. The Colts would be very dumb to have him back up Luck on a team that still has to build their foundation.

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I totally get the responses that ask why would he come to a team to be a backup.....I never know too much about how player contracts work. But if he is under contract( and it seems he is ) with the Eagles and the Eagles trade him does he get a vote ?....Does Foles have a no-trade clause in his contract ?????????

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Honestly, Foles may outperform Luck, especially if he's not 100%. If Foles games this season played are put into a full season sample size, he could give us a QB controversy instead of being the backup. Not what we need. Plus, he'd cost too much to acquire. It'd also hurt Luck's confidence knowing someone like Foles could take his job if he doesn't return to 100% immediately. Hard pass.

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58 minutes ago, colt18 said:

Bad idea.

 

Philadelphia is the best possible team for him. He has a head coach that tailors the offense to his QB, a good OL, a good platoon of backs, playmaking WRs and a great defense.

 

He has definitely earned looks at being a QB1 but he's only good in that Philadelphia system. The Colts would be very dumb to have him back up Luck on a team that still has to build their foundation.

 

then explain please how Foles was also successful in Chip kelly's system?  He also played well in Andy Reid's system, though admittedly there likely isn't a whole lot of difference between Pederson's and Reid's.  

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1 hour ago, csmopar said:

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What? I think he asked a fair question.  Better than the lets trade Luck and start Brissett crap thats all over this forum.

 

The Colts would not give up assets like a draft pick or cap space for Foles when they already have a really good back up on the roster.  

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1 hour ago, RollerColt said:

The Eagles have a very hard (but good) decision to make. Wentz got them into the playoffs, but Foles got them to the promised land.

It’s not hard. Wentz is better he had a MVP type of year. If he wasn’t injured then they still make it to the game...

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6 minutes ago, J@son said:

 

then explain please how Foles was also successful in Chip kelly's system?  He also played well in Andy Reid's system, though admittedly there likely isn't a whole lot of difference between Pederson's and Reid's.  

The Run-Pass Option came from the Chip Kelly system. Pederson, being the good coach that he is, took that from Kelly's coaching and implemented that around Foles.

 

You pretty much answered your own question.

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1 minute ago, IinD said:

I didn't watch, but Foles had a solid game against an obvious crap defense (just looking strictly at last night), let's not make him out to be Peyton Manning.

He shredded Vikings elite defense in NFC Championship..The other year he started in Philly I think he had 27 td-3 Int...He just needs a good opportunity..Keenum sucked with Rams too..

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2 minutes ago, jshipp23 said:

Denver, Arizona, or Minnesota is going to offer. 1st round pick for Foles if they are smart..Philly owes him that opportunity as well..

i wouldnt except that if i was the eagles.  they might still need him, wentz went down late in the season, no guarantee hes ready for the opener 

 

maybe the denver pick, but not the vikings.

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, aaron11 said:

i wouldnt except that if i was the eagles.  they might still need him, wentz went down late in the season, no guarantee hes ready for the opener 

 

maybe the denver pick, but not the vikings.

 

 

 

If Wentz struggles or Foles starts the season still lighting it up, and they are winning it's got QB controversy written all over it..Could get in Wentz's head and screw him up tbh..

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Just now, jshipp23 said:

He shredded Vikings elite defense in NFC Championship..The other year he started in Philly I think he had 27 td-3 Int...He just needs a good opportunity..Keenum sucked with Rams too..

I could just be a hater honestly. I don't think he's anything special.

 

I'd like to see what he can do on an average team. They have a solid run game and some good parts on D.

 

I really don't care either way, I'm just commenting on how as soon as a guy has some success he's the GOAT. He was a backup for a reason. He got lucky only having to play a month or two.

 

Big difference doing it from August to February.

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11 minutes ago, colt18 said:

The Run-Pass Option came from the Chip Kelly system. Pederson, being the good coach that he is, took that from Kelly's coaching and implemented that around Foles.

 

You pretty much answered your own question.

 

you do understand though that about 95% of the teams in the league have implemented RPO into their playbooks?  Chip wasn't the first by any stretch.  The pats have been doing it for quite a while.  

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6 minutes ago, jshipp23 said:

If Wentz struggles or Foles starts the season still lighting it up, and they are winning it's got QB controversy written all over it..Could get in Wentz's head and screw him up tbh..

its the eagles...

 

a little controversy never scared them before lol

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6 minutes ago, IinD said:

I could just be a hater honestly. I don't think he's anything special.

 

I'd like to see what he can do on an average team. They have a solid run game and some good parts on D.

 

I really don't care either way, I'm just commenting on how as soon as a guy has some success he's the GOAT. He was a backup for a reason. He got lucky only having to play a month or two.

 

Big difference doing it from August to February.

 

See 2013 when Foles had the Eagles (under Chip Kelly) set as the #1 seed heading into the playoffs before getting hurt.  

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