RB Matt Jones

[VaAllDay757]

11 minutes ago, NorthernBlue said:

Trent Richardson averaged 3.9 ypc his rookie year.

Which rb did we have who did better that year?

[NewColtsFan]

38 minutes ago, AustinnKaine said:

When's the last time we had a back this big? Bradshaw?

 

Bradshaw was under 215.

 

I want to say roughly 212 or so....

 

He ran powerfully,  but I wouldn't call him a big back...

 

[Jackie Daytona]

1 hour ago, AustinnKaine said:

When's the last time we had a back this big? Bradshaw?

Bradshaw was around 5'-10"  210#.......  so not really close.

[Jackie Daytona]

Matt Jones sized RB's we've had...... Zach Crockett, Ironhead Heyward....rip.......

[RomanianColtsFan]

1 hour ago, JRnINDY said:

Really liked him coming out of Florida.

 

Great blocking down the field by the linemen in that video. Kudos to him for knowing how to navigate between and brhind them.

[superrep1967]

1 hour ago, Douzer said:

The question remains, who was cut?

Hopefully, Gore!

[superrep1967]

12 minutes ago, RomanianColtsFan said:

Great blocking down the field by the linemen in that video. Kudos to him for knowing how to navigate between and behind nd them.

Edgerrin James was always good at that.  

[IinD]

24 minutes ago, Shafty138 said:

Matt Jones sized RB's we've had...... Zach Crockett, Ironhead Heyward....rip.......

You get a like simply by going into the Colts vault on that one.

[Jackie Daytona]

Just now, IinD said:

You get a like simply by going into the Colts vault on that one.

Thanks, I've been around a while lol

[IinD]

1 minute ago, Shafty138 said:

Thanks, I've been around a while lol

Same here, it's just usually the Peyton years are considered going way back nowadays.

 

I'll watch some Eugene Daniel's and big play Ray games any day (Just making done from those days).

[Jackie Daytona]

Just now, IinD said:

Same here, it's just usually the Peyton years are considered going way back nowadays.

 

I'll watch some Eugene Daniel's and big play Ray games any day (Just making done from those days).

Loved Daniels, Ray Buchanan, and Jason Belser, Coryatt, Herrod.... back then.....  not too many Colts fans on here from that era, or at least waxing nostalgic about those days lol

[IndyEric07]

Hearin a rumor that they may trade Gore to a contender! Kinda thinkn so since this Jones signing!p

[James]

3 hours ago, VaAllDay757 said:

Dumb pick up

 

Dumb post.

[JColts72]

31 minutes ago, Shafty138 said:

Loved Daniels, Ray Buchanan, and Jason Belser, Coryatt, Herrod.... back then.....  not too many Colts fans on here from that era, or at least waxing nostalgic about those days lol

Man i go back to Sack Pack days on D. I met Herrod at TD town for auto when drove from NY in 2014 as 1st ever game.

[bleevit]

Thumpa! Thumpa! That's a good pickup. It also shows the difference with Chris Ballard. Grigs gave up a "1" for good old Trent, and Ballard gets a high draft pick big back for essentially zilch. I don't see how he can lose on this deal. I bet someone gives Morris a look though.

[Shive]

22 minutes ago, bleevit said:

Thumpa! Thumpa! That's a good pickup. It also shows the difference with Chris Ballard. Grigs gave up a "1" for good old Trent, and Ballard gets a high draft pick big back for essentially zilch. I don't see how he can lose on this deal. I bet someone gives Morris a look though.

The Trent trade was Grigs thinking we were on the verge if a SB, needing a RB due to injuries, and trading for what many thought was a potential top back. I don't see how you can compare trading for Trent to signing Jones after being a healthy scratch for most of last season and getting cut by the Redskins that aren't exactly talented at RB. I'm not saying it's a bad move, but people need to stop with bashing Grigs' moves to make themselves feel much better about Ballard.

[VaAllDay757]

37 minutes ago, James said:

 

Dumb post.

Dumb reply

[bleevit]

1 minute ago, Shive said:

The Trent trade was Grigs thinking we were on the verge if a SB, needing a RB due to injuries, and trading for what many thought was a potential top back. I don't see how you can compare trading for Trent to signing Jones after being a healthy scratch for most of last season and getting cut by the Redskins that aren't exactly talented at RB. I'm not saying it's a bad move, but people need to stop with bashing Grigs' moves to make themselves feel much better about Ballard.

Just goes to show you how knee-jerk calls often work out. I'm not a Grigs hater or anything, I just think he made several bone-headed calls while here. Don't even think to tell me what I'm feeling or how to arrive at the conclusion. Mind your manners!

[rock8591]

Matt Jones will be fine, only 24 years old, 6'2'' 240 lbs.

 

Had 4.6 ypc last season, will be a good situational back on 3rd and short.

[austriancolt]

nice a RB with fumbling issues...

[ponyboy]

3 hours ago, oldunclemark said:

Low cost...no risk.........I like it

 

If he is indeed a fumbler, there is risk.

[Shive]

1 minute ago, bleevit said:

Just goes to show you how knee-jerk calls often work out. I'm not a Grigs hater or anything, I just think he made several bone-headed calls while here. Don't even think to tell me what I'm feeling or how to arrive at the conclusion. Mind your manners!

You used a move from Grigs (trading for Trent) to try to glorify signing Matt Jones and how much better of a GM Ballard is. While I agree with the notion, I'm just not a fan of using past actions of others to judge current actions. It's a good move or a bad move. There a no need to bring up Grigs or Richardson. They're completely irrelevant.

[bleevit]

1 minute ago, Shive said:

You used a move from Grigs (trading for Trent) to try to glorify signing Matt Jones and how much better of a GM Ballard is. While I agree with the notion, I'm just not a fan of using past actions of others to judge current actions. It's a good move or a bad move. There a no need to bring up Grigs or Richardson. They're completely irrelevant.

That's nonsense. My reference is exactly needed versus risk. In the Grigs situation he married a perceived immediate need with a very high risk (such as why was Cleveland willing to part with this stud); whereas, Ballard filled a perceived need with almost no risk whatsoever (just coach him to quit fumbling). It simply represents two ways of doing business, and I'll say I prefer the latter. I don't make it a practice of making irrelevant arguments, but you seem to like to argue if you disagree. So be it. 

[WoolMagnet]

1 hour ago, Shafty138 said:

Loved Daniels, Ray Buchanan, and Jason Belser, Coryatt, Herrod.... back then.....  not too many Colts fans on here from that era, or at least waxing nostalgic about those days lol

We had some nice defenses in those days.  Not great, but fun to watch and guys with heart.

the goose, tony bennett, etc.

LOVED  Rosey Potts.  Dom rhodes (true SB mvp imo)reminded me of him for some reason. 

I like watching old games.  I have a ton.

[dodsworth]

Jones needs to focus on the perceived fumbling issue. Look no farther than JoJo Natson.

[colt18]

3 hours ago, AustinnKaine said:

When's the last time we had a back this big? Bradshaw?

aw man I completely forgot about Bradshaw....he was the piece to our offense man! 

[IndyScribe]

He has potential and can be a productive RB if he fixes his fumbling issues. Apparently he has a chip on his shoulder, so that sounds good. I think - if he can fix his fumbling problems - he'll eventually replace Turbin and become a 1-2 duo with Mack. I can seem him splitting carries with Turbin this year.

[Shive]

34 minutes ago, bleevit said:

That's nonsense. My reference is exactly needed versus risk. In the Grigs situation he married a perceived immediate need with a very high risk (such as why was Cleveland willing to part with this stud); whereas, Ballard filled a perceived need with almost no risk whatsoever (just coach him to quit fumbling). It simply represents two ways of doing business, and I'll say I prefer the latter. I don't make it a practice of making irrelevant arguments, but you seem to like to argue if you disagree. So be it. 

I don't disagree with Matt Jones being a good value signing. A high-risk/high reward trade for a RB taken 3rd overall is not comparable with a low risk, depth signing of a RB taken 95th overall (3rd round). Of course Jones is the safer pick.

 

This is more akin to signing Bradshaw than trading for Richardson.

[bleevit]

11 minutes ago, Shive said:

I don't disagree with Matt Jones being a good value signing. A high-risk/high reward trade for a RB taken 3rd overall is not comparable with a low risk, depth signing of a RB taken 95th overall (3rd round). Of course Jones is the safer pick.

 

This is more akin to signing Bradshaw than trading for Richardson.

Signing Bradshaw was also a much better deal than the Trent trade. The point is, however, both Richardson and Jones have the potential to be a lead back for the Colts. Bradshaw not so much except in spot duty. Here Ballard has taken a shot at improving his long term odds of replacing Gore (along with Mack) and not spent much doing it. These days the 95th pick is pretty high for running backs and his highlight reel shows much more than a depth player. I think Ballard has done an excellent job with this pick-up with more long term upside than Bradshaw (though I loved that move).

[BrentMc11]

Stephen is back. I am too!!!

[Stephen]

My issue is with 4 rbs how do we split the carries. It is not like all four will have 100 yards rushing in one game though id pay to see that lol

[rock8591]

Small hands for Matt Jones at 8 and 5/8. 

 

I'm only 5'9" but have 8.75 hand span.

[AKB]

I don't understand why people are so bothered by this signing. He is a young, powerful back with potential. Turbin has reached his skill cap.

 

Anyone want to argue that?

Gore is about to retire. 

 

Mack is our presumed and hopeful future feature back. 

Is it wrong of ballard to try and find a better version of a 3rd and short back?

 

Did we really want Turbin here long term?

 

 

[IndyScribe]

5 minutes ago, Stephen said:

My issue is with 4 rbs how do we split the carries. It is not like all four will have 100 yards rushing in one game though id pay to see that lol

Mack and Gore will be our main backs, with Mack overtaking Gore if he plays really well. Turbin and Jones will split carries. I can see Jones as an eventual replacement to Turbin. Eventually, if Jones does well, it can be a backfield of Mack + Jones + Turbin.

[Shive]

39 minutes ago, bleevit said:

Signing Bradshaw was also a much better deal than the Trent trade. The point is, however, both Richardson and Jones have the potential to be a lead back for the Colts. Bradshaw not so much except in spot duty. Here Ballard has taken a shot at improving his long term odds of replacing Gore (along with Mack) and not spent much doing it. These days the 95th pick is pretty high for running backs and his highlight reel shows much more than a depth player. I think Ballard has done an excellent job with this pick-up with more long term upside than Bradshaw (though I loved that move).

Outside of the comparison, I think we're both in agreeance on Jones. If he can fix his fumbling issues (which was also a problem for Mack as well), he can be a very solid RB. He looked great in his rookie season with the Redskins and certainly could have similar success with us.

[JTrouble]

5 hours ago, AustinnKaine said:

When's the last time we had a back this big? Bradshaw?

Roosevelt Potts

 

edit: Rosie was more of a FB but dang he was a train with the ball his Rookie year

[JTrouble]

4 hours ago, Shafty138 said:

Loved Daniels, Ray Buchanan, and Jason Belser, Coryatt, Herrod.... back then.....  not too many Colts fans on here from that era, or at least waxing nostalgic about those days lol

Oh I remember those day  Great post..

[Blueblood23]

7 hours ago, krunk said:

Yeah he could. We run block fairly well.

Its the pass blocking that has been spotty. I just don't think his workload will be real large.

I just don't see it the way you see it. The Colts haven't run the ball well so far and last year the had one game of over a hundred yards.

[Justin Zima]

Ballard's work for us should speak for itself at this point. He has made us faster, younger, more physical, and more prepared to win. Yes our Colts still have issue but hes addressed many and promoted people to step up and compete for their job at those positions were arent sold on. That competion style has seemingly (small sample size) gotten the most out of our players, whether it be Mingo who very easily could have ran himself out of the league at this point (good preseason) or our young guns making a splash and producing more than many thought because they are fighting for their lives on this team like Nate Hairston (5th rounder now our starting nickle corner) or Anthony Walker (5th rounder who could start at ILB...

 

As for Matt Jones hes fun to watch when the balls not knocked out of his hand... i truly believe this RB core could really produce for us and help us control the time of possession which wins football games and keeps our defense fresh... Gore is reliable, paired with Marlon Mack who im very high on and Matt Jones who's big and explosive but will also be the best at protecting our franchise piece in Andrew Luch (super important)

[NorthernBlue]

5 hours ago, VaAllDay757 said:

Which rb did we have who did better that year?

Ironically Brown and Ballard both also averaged 3.9

 

But it doesn't change the fact that Richardson wasn't that great the year before the Colts got him.