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1 hour ago, Indeee said:

Remember the Superbowl year? Remember when we had BOB.. Bobby was tough and RECKLESS so much it ended his career and when Bob came back and started crushing people our defense miraculously improved and they became TOUGH. You think that was Dungy who got our defense turned around? Or any coach on that staff? If it was how come when Bob was hurt our defense SuCKED and we almost didn't even make playoffs. Oh here's why because an emotional, aggressive presence wasn't around. It was BOB that sparked the entire TEAM. So anybody else want to refute what I'm saying????

 

I get what you're trying to imply. We need a tough & tenacious defense. However, that course of action has already started IMO with our recent hew hires. Do not think that defenses are soft or incapable of inflicting punishment because their coach is not a screamer. Quite the contrary. 

 

Players, usually, are reflective of coaching "methods". Not the other way around by hyperbole.

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Being aggressive is one thing. But being stupid and costing your team is an easy way to lose a game.  

You play with aggression but not reckless aggression. Ya players are gonna get penalties but the star players and great teams minimize them. Why give the opposition anything. Play clean and execute you will win 9 times out of ten. 

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Pacergeek said:

Wasn't Philbin Vontae's coach that traded him for no reason? Not sure whey we keep hiring these people with a history of making bad decisions

No Vontae was talented but undisciplined and lazy. Pags worked his magic and turned him into a pro bowler. 

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1 hour ago, Indeee said:

I know bro, I'm just using example of tough not really comparing apples to apples and I think that everyone us too hung up on penalties. Yes they can hurt a team ( Burfict ) but even though it would sting losing an important game, I would stull want our players to be aggressive and play hard

 

Speaking of Giovanni Bernard I think they need to revise how they are using him in the passing game in terms of route design. It seems every time I watch the Bengals he is taking knock out shots. I don't know what's up with that.

 

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Don't really have any opinion about it one way or the other right now, I'll have to back to his time with Green Bay and watch some games and see if I can dig up some quotes on his time as a O Line coach. But if he can get the best out of the O Line then I'm all for him

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14 hours ago, FL Colts Fan said:

Did he coach the O Line ?  NO !!! He has vast and successful experience with tight ends and O lines. Sheesh.

Again. I'm simply asking for proof. You all keep saying he has all this vast experience but yet no one cites specific examples.......

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3 hours ago, GoColts8818 said:

I think the Hoody up in New England is respected even if he's not liked by his players.  Four Super Bowl rings will do that for you.  Honestly just about any well run team respects their coach.  Once they stop repesceting him they stop winning,.  

 

Yeah, Belichick has the ultimate trump card. He's obviously a great coach, but winning those first three SBs gave him a LOT of rope, in the locker room and with public opinion.

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7 hours ago, Superman said:

 

Sure, I'll give him credit for two months in 2012.

 

I'm not trying to be hard on Jim Caldwell when I say that the Ravens didn't have a good offense in 2013. I think it's just a matter of fact. They were 25th in scoring, 29th in total yardage, 31st in yards/play, 22nd in turnovers, 30th in first downs... Every area of their offense was inefficient and lacking in production. Yes, they lost some good players, but typically an offense gets graded on the numbers, at the end of the day. I don't think anyone would use the 2013 Ravens offense as proof that Caldwell was a good coordinator.

 

(Also, as a technicality, it wasn't really bargain basement shopping. They made business decisions that they thought were best for the team. Trade Anquan -- who they thought was done -- and sign Dumervil. They could have kept him if they wanted.)

 

As for his time in Indy, that's definitely more to the point. He wasn't a good head coach in Indy. Whatever it was that Polian and Manning and Dungy and Irsay liked about him, it didn't translate to him being a good head coach. I disliked the way he was promoted in Indy, and I disliked his coaching, specifically when the offense struggled, and that's with or without Manning. I'm sure he's smart and insightful and has a way with people; I've heard as much. I didn't like his coaching decisions, and I don't think he was a good coach here. I think he thoroughly earned his firing here. 

 

(And to be totally straightforward, I think Dungy was ready to retire after 2006 and definitely after 2007, but Irsay begged him not to. So Dungy used his bargaining power to get Irsay and Polian to agree to appoint Caldwell as his successor, and in exchange, he stayed for one more year. I'm not sure Dungy's concerns about who his successor would be were necessarily about who was most qualified for the job.)

 

I don't think Caldwell's a good coach now. I do believe that coaches can get better, but there's a pattern with Caldwell. He takes over, things go well for a while, then it goes south. Happened in Indy, happened in Baltimore, happened in Detroit. Maybe it improves with Bob Quinn running the front office, but just because a former New England staffer decided to keep Caldwell doesn't mean Caldwell is now a good coach. As a matter of fact, if Quinn follows the typical pattern of New England staffers and coaches, he won't have a good time in Detroit. That all remains to be seen, and I certainly hope that Caldwell does a good job, but I'm unconvinced. 

 

Good thoughtful post.

 

I'd like to ask a question about Caldwell's time here.     I wasn't a Colts fan then, so I'd like to get your thoughts....

 

What would your view of Caldwell be today,  what would EVERYONE'S view of Caldwell be today if the Colts had beaten New Orleans in the Super Bowl?      I'm guessing it would be much, much better.    More favorable?      The Saints make one of the greatest calls in SB history and recover a daring on-sides kick.   Peyton throws a pick-6,  and the Colts lose a game they were favored to win.     But if that didn't happen,  wouldn't people here think better of Jim Caldwell.

 

Baltimore did not get rid of JC.    He got hired away.    And I don't recall reading any bad stores about his work in 2013.    I don't know that he was thought to be the problem with that offense.

 

In Detroit,  his first year, terrific.     His second year,  his defense got gutted, I think they lost 3 top DL,  and the offense suffers as Megatron is injured a fair amount this year.    And they responded nicely down the stretch, 6-2 in the 2nd half.

 

I haven't followed JC's career enough to have a good feel for his coaching ability.    But it sure feels like things are our of proportion and it's all because the ball bounced funny in the SB.     Absent that,  he'd be highly thought of here.    (By the way,  the Dungy/Caldwell power play is new to me.   Interesting stuff...)

 

Thanks for sharing.....

 

 

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3 hours ago, Narcosys said:

I could swore it was you I saw a few weeks ago going off about Pagano. My mistake if it wasn't. 

 

All we can know is that Rodgers had been sacked a lot,  and most under philbin. Even with the contextual situations taken into account, we can assume they are mostly even.   So Rodgers was still sacked more under philbin.  

 

I suspect Philbin's time also dates back to Favre being the starter at GB.

 

So, he was the OL coach there first,  and was then promoted to OC.    And his work as OC got him the HC job.

 

Seems a lot of people thought his work as an assistant and a coordinator was very good.  

 

I'm not a fan of Philbin's as a head coach.    It took me one episode of the HBO series to see he was badly miscast in that roll.      But everything I read is that he's highly regarded as an assistant.

 

Some stats can be deceiving.....

 

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35 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

Good thoughtful post.

 

I'd like to ask a question about Caldwell's time here.     I wasn't a Colts fan then, so I'd like to get your thoughts....

 

What would your view of Caldwell be today,  what would EVERYONE'S view of Caldwell be today if the Colts had beaten New Orleans in the Super Bowl?      I'm guessing it would be much, much better.    More favorable?      The Saints make one of the greatest calls in SB history and recover a daring on-sides kick.   Peyton throws a pick-6,  and the Colts lose a game they were favored to win.     But if that didn't happen,  wouldn't people here think better of Jim Caldwell.

 

Baltimore did not get rid of JC.    He got hired away.    And I don't recall reading any bad stores about his work in 2013.    I don't know that he was thought to be the problem with that offense.

 

In Detroit,  his first year, terrific.     His second year,  his defense got gutted, I think they lost 3 top DL,  and the offense suffers as Megatron is injured a fair amount this year.    And they responded nicely down the stretch, 6-2 in the 2nd half.

 

I haven't followed JC's career enough to have a good feel for his coaching ability.    But it sure feels like things are our of proportion and it's all because the ball bounced funny in the SB.     Absent that,  he'd be highly thought of here.    (By the way,  the Dungy/Caldwell power play is new to me.   Interesting stuff...)

 

Thanks for sharing.....

 

For the Colts to have beaten the Saints in that SB, they would have had to make adjustments defensively to impact Drew Brees. They decided to play soft Cover 2 with 8+ yard cushions on the outside, and Brees carved it up for the entire second half. Playing more aggressively on the outside had the potential to disrupt the Saints offensive rhythm, but no changes were made, and Brees went 32-39, with no resistance. We would have had to call better plays at the end of the first half to keep the ball away from the Saints and keep them from making up so much ground.

 

There are other examples. None of them are a direct reflection of the head coach; Caldwell didn't call the plays or install the defensive gameplan. But that game showed severe limitations in his game management, his ability to make adjustments on the fly, etc. If he had made those adjustments, I think it would have changed the game (maybe the outcome), and my opinion of him would be different. I would credit him with good coaching, instead of believing that his deficiencies helped us lose that game.

 

The next two seasons didn't help his reputation. Lots of game management issues, failure to make what IMO would have been common sense adjustments with backup QBs, etc. 

 

In Baltimore, I'm not blaming Caldwell entirely for the offensive issues. I do think those issues are partly a reflection of the coordinator, but I recognize that there were other factors. Still, my original point is that I don't think Caldwell has a good resume as a coordinator or a QB coach. He finished 2012 well, 2013 wasn't impressive, and his work with Manning doesn't really prove to me that he's a good position coach. Doesn't mean he isn't well respected and isn't deserving of whatever opportunities he gets. I hold no ill well toward him. I'm just not impressed by him. And my initial statement in this thread wasn't meant to say that he should never coach anywhere again. Just that I don't think he has an impressive history as a coordinator.

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3 hours ago, Pacergeek said:

Wasn't Philbin Vontae's coach that traded him for no reason? Not sure whey we keep hiring these people with a history of making bad decisions

 

He didn't make the decision.    The general manager did.

 

And Vonte wasn't all that in Miami.     He wasn't happy and they weren't happy with him.

 

Philbin wasn't a good head coach.    But he has a history of being a good assistant coach and that's what we hired him to be.      

 

This isn't rocket science.    No need to overthink this........

 

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21 hours ago, ricker182 said:

I hate this.  

I don't like him as a coach at all in the NFL.  

  

The Dolphins are talented and that team is a total mess.

 

They're more talented today.

 

But they weren't that talented for most of Philbin's year.     And that's why the general manager got fired.

 

He didn't do a good job.     Neither did Phlbin,  but he doesn't get all the blame,  only some of it.

 

And we're not hiring him to be a HC.      We're not even hiring him to be the OC.    He's only an assistant, where he has a good reputation.

 

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1 hour ago, Superman said:

 

For the Colts to have beaten the Saints in that SB, they would have had to make adjustments defensively to impact Drew Brees. They decided to play soft Cover 2 with 8+ yard cushions on the outside, and Brees carved it up for the entire second half. Playing more aggressively on the outside had the potential to disrupt the Saints offensive rhythm, but no changes were made, and Brees went 32-39, with no resistance. We would have had to call better plays at the end of the first half to keep the ball away from the Saints and keep them from making up so much ground.

 

 

I can still remember watching that Super Bowl with the 2nd half onward was like some weird waking nightmare. The pub outside the flat I lived in also burned down during the game which I felt was symbolic of watching my own hopes slowly being destroyed. 

 

Those were the days... no GamePass, skulking round the internet trying to get whatever highlights you could find, hoping for those lucky weeks the Colts were the channel 4 game of the week. The BBC coverage of the Super Bowls was amazing too for unintended comedy. Mike Carlson getting rolled out every Super Bowl to explain to us Brits how throw ball works.

 

 

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4 hours ago, csmopar said:

Again. I'm simply asking for proof. You all keep saying he has all this vast experience but yet no one cites specific examples.......

 

The first question is whether you understand the fundamental difference between a head coach and an OL coach. You haven't really acknowledged that difference.

 

Philbin coached the Packers OL from 2003-06.

2003 -- 159 yards/game rushing, 5 yards/attempt, 18 rushing TDs, 19 sacks

2004 -- 125 yards/game rushing, 4.3 yards/attempt, 9 rushing TDs, 14 sacks

2005 -- 84 yards/game rushing, 3.4 yards/attempt, 11 rushing TDs, 27 sacks (Ahman Green was hurt)

2006 -- 104 yards/game rushing, 3.9 yards/attempt, 9 rushing TDs, 24 sacks

 

He has 20 years experience as an OL coach. Is he a great OL coach? I don't know about that. But he obviously has experience, and much of what's actually relevant to his position with the Colts is promising.

 

All this info is readily available. Yet so many continue to say 'the OL was bad in Miami, so Joe Philbin must be a bad OL coach.' And that's not how it works.

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On January 15, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Larry Horseman said:
On January 15, 2016 at 5:05 PM, Superman said:
On January 15, 2016 at 4:47 PM, Andrew Luck's Beard said:

What a great hire!

 

On January 15, 2016 at 4:54 PM, James Harden said:

Great signing. Experience all around. Next season, the players will be held accountable instead of the staffs. Can't wait! 

 

Contrary to popular belief, I deplore this hire. Phil-bin doesn't instill confidence in the men around him at all either as a coordinator or head coach. I agree with Ricker182. I just don't see this move leading to more protection for Luck at all. 

 

Yes, I know. SW1 was totally wrong about retaining Pagano & Grigson too so I realize that my track record on the direction of the Colts is worthless & way off. 

 

I just am familiar with GB football a lot & inspirational is not an adjective I would use to describe Joe. Perhaps, he is excellent at alignment & gap control along with edge containment but I'm not overly optimistic right now.   

 

I'm open to being pleasantly surprised though. I was just never enamored with Joe personally. Usually good communicators make good coordinators & Joe is bland at best, but then again Chuck Noll won multiple championships for Pittsburgh too so what the hades language can be overrated occasionally I guess. 

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2 minutes ago, Superman said:

All this info is readily available. Yet so many continue to say 'the OL was bad in Miami, so Joe Philbin must be a bad OL coach.' And that's not how it works.

 

None of if this is aimed at the exchange I've quote this from to be clear...

 

But as you say all this information is now readily available in this day and age but it seems also that there is a trend to look for simple, very black and white, positions when analysing things. 

 

Sure people will have differing opinions but it's frustrating watching people chuck out statements as if they're fact when 30 seconds of checking would show just how ludicrous it is. Not even the good type of Ludicris.

 

What's worrying is sometimes you see even paid talking head doing the same, or even worse, cherry picking a stat without context and holding it up as concrete proof. 

 

/Rant 

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1 hour ago, SteelCityColt said:

 

I can still remember watching that Super Bowl with the 2nd half onward was like some weird waking nightmare. The pub outside the flat I lived in also burned down during the game which I felt was symbolic of watching my own hopes slowly being destroyed. 

 

Those were the days... no GamePass, skulking round the internet trying to get whatever highlights you could find, hoping for those lucky weeks the Colts were the channel 4 game of the week. The BBC coverage of the Super Bowls was amazing too for unintended comedy. Mike Carlson getting rolled out every Super Bowl to explain to us Brits how throw ball works.

 

It was infuriating. I rewatched the game a couple times, and it just got worse with each viewing. I couldn't believe it.

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2 hours ago, jemack said:

The reason I love this hiring is if the Pats can win an SB with Phins rejects, maybe the Colts can too. haha

 

You know jmk. That is a good point. Since Phil-bin used to run the show in Miami & the Dolphins always give NE fits regardless of what their dismal record is, there could be a silver lining there. I'm grasping at straws right now I know, but I'm trying to put a positive spin on this hire. 

 

It's not working, but I'm trying man. That's worth something. 

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7 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

It was infuriating. I rewatched the game a couple times, and it just got worse with each viewing. I couldn't believe it.

 

Death by a thousand cuts... watching your corners constantly playing off their man. Powers/Lacey I feel were somewhat betrayed by a poor scheme and weren't as bad as people made out. 

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26 minutes ago, SteelCityColt said:

 

None of if this is aimed at the exchange I've quote this from to be clear...

 

But as you say all this information is now readily available in this day and age but it seems also that there is a trend to look for simple, very black and white, positions when analysing things. 

 

Sure people will have differing opinions but it's frustrating watching people chuck out statements as if they're fact when 30 seconds of checking would show just how ludicrous it is. Not even the good type of Ludicris.

 

What's worrying is sometimes you see even paid talking head doing the same, or even worse, cherry picking a stat without context and holding it up as concrete proof. 

 

/Rant 

 

Why rely on thoughtful analysis when you can rely on thought-terminating cliches and platitudes?

 

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8 minutes ago, SteelCityColt said:

 

Death by a thousand cuts... watching your corners constantly playing off their man. Powers/Lacey I feel were somewhat betrayed by a poor scheme and weren't as bad as people made out. 

 

Brees was 32/39. In the Super Bowl. C'mon, man.

 

A lot of people will talk about how the defense was neutered by Freeney's injury, but I felt that Freeney's injury wasn't even allowed to be a factor. Once he got to Brees in the second quarter, the Saints went super quick for the rest of the game, nullifying any pass rush we may or may not have been able to mount. And we just let him.

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1 hour ago, will426 said:

Seems like a lot of people  can't understand the difference between an Oline coach and head coach 

Joe was the HC in Miami & presumably he oversaw all his coordinators right including his o-line coach correct? I seem to recall Ryan Tannehill getting sacked frequently. True, part of that is poor QB decision making & part of that is a lack of time to throw. 

 

Don't pardon Phil-bin simply because it's a difference in responsibilities. You can either protect your field general or you can't. 

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On January 15, 2016 at 5:29 PM, krunk said:

Before being promoted to Packers offensive coordinator in 2007, Philbin had been an offensive line coach in some capacity for 21 years, including in college.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000623288/article/colts-hire-joe-philbin-as-offensive-line-coach

Because I respect krunk's high IQ & football intuition, I will wait & see how this plays out. I need to thumb thru the rest of this thread & see what Gavin thinks who watches a ton of tape & I also value his feedback/impressions as well. Be right back. 

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20 hours ago, ricker182 said:

Oh boy. Now he's an assistant coach.   

Definitely do not like this hire now.   

Whoa...A chill just went down my spine...Phil-bin 2nd in command on the field to Pagano? Are you serious? 

 

I'm not chasing ricker182 BTW. Just thanking him for bringing this scary fact to my attention. I don't hate Joe. I just know he can't rally the troops man. It's not in his DNA. I don't expect him to instill fear in others. I just think he's about as motivational as rubbing your caboose with a brick. 

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1 minute ago, Superman said:

 

Good thing that's not his job.

If Pagano God forbid; becomes ill again, it very well could be the case Superman. Highly unlikely yes, but not impossible either I'm afraid. 

 

That's why who your #2 is so crucial during a season as we already endured with Bruce Arians.

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If Pagano God forbid; becomes ill again, it very well could be the case Superman. Highly unlikely yes, but not impossible either I'm afraid. 

 

That's why who your #2 is so crucial during a season as we already endured with Bruce Arians.

 

I don't think your #2 coach is as important as say your backup QB.


I mean, how often do HC's go down in a season? 

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4 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

Good thing that's not his job.

No....but let's say this.

 

 

A head coach is in charge of his team, they get the blame, they get the glory if the team booms or busts.

 

If I'm a head coach with an OL background and I'm watching my star QB take a ton of sacks and hits, you best bet your bottom dime that I'm getting  in the OL coaches butt or completely taking over for him if he isn't performing. Period.

 

Same way if I'm a head coach with a D background, if the D isn't routinely performing, you best bet that coach is getting some extra motivation and if needed, relieved. 

 

Does that create hostility, sure  but when your franchise and young QB is at risk, I don't give a dang.

 

I have looked at his resume, I'm really not impressed....at all. Even Rodgers was pounder with this cat at the controls of the OL. 

 

I'll give him a chance but if it doesn't improve the OL, I'll be pointing back to this thread......

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WR Michael Tutsie ERFA – 840k?   Of the above really like to see the Colts resign Ronnie Harrison, Dayo Odeyingbo, Kylen Granson, Dallis Flowers, and Segun Olubi.  In order to free up cap space it wouldn't shock me to see Braden Smith traded.  Not ideal but only way at this point in time to see freeing up available cap space.  Would love to add OC Connor Williams who is still a free agent but suffered an ACL injury late in 2023.  Before his injury Williams ranked as the 3rd best OL in 2023 in zone-heavy scheme.  Recoding a league best 92.4 run-blocking grade on zone concepts and equally impressive in pass protection allowing just six pressures on 280 pass sets.    No doubt the Colts love speed on their offense.  Jonathan Taylor was recently listed as one of the fastest players in the NFL last season.  Then the Colts drafted Anthony Gould who in 2023 Week 3 hit a top speed of 21.6 mph.  As UDFAs the Colts then brought in NC State Trent Pennix who in Week 6 clocked the fastest time by a TE at 20.6 MPH but also is a capable RB.  Colts also added QB Jason Bean (Kansas) who in Week 9 clocked an impressive 22.4 mph T5 fastest player in 2023.   Mock Draft   Round 1 WLB Harold Perkins Jr. (LSU) - As a true freshman led all LBs in Power 5 with a 91.0 pass-rush grade and second among all LBs in the country with 18 QB knockdowns (sacks/hits) and tied for second in the country with 4 *.  In 2023 as a true off-ball LB he struggled as a run defender but flashed in coverage, 81.1 coverage grade.  At the end of 2023 now recorded 27 TFLs and 13 sacks with 7 forced fumbles.  Made 2022 college football all-America Freshman Team.  In 2022 his 87.6 pass-rush grade by true freshman is 3rd best since the 2014 era, behind (Rueben Bain Jr-2023 and Myles Garrett-2014).  2022 PFF TOW 11 honors.  Like JOK, Perkins has a chance to win the Butkus Award.  Both JOK and Perkins have similar builds and ran a 4.42s-forty.  Do expect Perkins’ stats to dip if he does move to MLB and probably drop him to Round 2 grades much like Edgerrin Cooper in 2024 Draft Class.  Quick to drop into zone and covers enough ground to be Tampa-2 MIKE but some feel better suited as a WLB maximize range/speed.  Expecting Shaquille ‘Darius’ Leonard 2018-2021 vibes along with JOKs 2021-2023 production traits.  Both were drafted in Round 2 but should been first rounders.  Perkins replaces EJ Speed.   Round 2 Edge/RDE Elijah Alston (Miami) –Alston was an All-Sun Belt selection in 2023.  In 2023 he had a 91.0 overall grade and 90.5 pass-rushing grade based on 235 pass rush snaped while at Marshal Alston also racked up 36 QB pressures, 5 sacks plus 24 defensive stops during this period.  By mid-November Alston was ranked 4th best (Marshawn Kneeland was #3) Edge behind #1 Latu whom the Colts selected in Round 1.   2023 College Football All-Sun Belt Team.  Looking forward to the Cal game and how he does against RB Jaydn Ott, RT Victor Stoffel, and LG Rush Reimer.  Duke’s new RT Micah Sahakian matchup is another one would like to see.  RB Quinton Cooley (Wake Forest) who transferred from Liberty and earned 2023 College Football All-CUSA Team is another key matchup.  Finally, TE/WR Oronde Gadsden II of Syracuse could test his coverage skills.  The Colts done well and am looking forward to seeing Paye/Latu tandem then creating another one with Odeyingbo and Alston.  Ebukam will be a FA after 2025 but could be cut/traded save cap space.  Close build to Ebukam and Leo with 2” taller than Avery with Avery an upcoming FA and no guarantee we can resign Odeyingbo with the minimal cap space currently projected.   Round 3 LT J.C. Davis (Illinois) - The New Mexico Lobos ran a zone-scheme concept 318 times in 2023 and Davis was on the field for 316 of those snaps where he helped the team earn a 91.5 rushing grade with 58 explosive runs.  Davis is well-rounded earning a 78.6 inside-zone run grade and a 78.4 outside-zone run grade.  See how well Davis does after transferring the Big 10 this season.  Overall, 82.4 run-blocking grade in 2023.  Comparison Illinois Isaiah Adams was drafted #71 by Arizona and was ranked 8th best zone OL in 2023 and Davis was 5th best.  In 2022 Davis earned a 66.8 overall PFF grade and in 2023 had an 87.1 pass-blocking grade.  If the Colts do trade/cap release Braden Smith than Davis is a high target to hopefully take early to replace him.   Round 4 TE Jalin Conyers (Texas Tech) - In 2022 Conyers forced 21 missed tackles which led all TEs in the country.  Plus, ranked 4th in receiving yards after contact (170).  As a redshirt freshman in 2021 had a 73.5 pass-blocking grade while playing at Arizona State.  Conyers can be elusive with the ball in his hands.  In his first season was used heavily as a run-blocker (2021) and excelled as a blocker ranking him 4th in the Pac-12.  Back in August 2023 Rick Spielman said he may be the best run-blocking TE in the class behind Cade Stover.  Considered a true Y TE efficient at run-blocking and can catch with run-after ability.  Spielman said last year would have had a Late Day 2 grade, while Ryan Wilson says Rounds 3-4.  Potential to be a red zone monster in the NFL if he continues to grow his game.  Last year Round 4 was where tight ends were drafted and expect the same again in 2025.  Replaces Mo Alie-Cox.   Round 5 Edge/RDE Anton Juncaj (Arkansas) – 2023 College Football FCS All-America Team while at Albany.  2022 PFF grade of 75.1.  2023 final defense grade of 91.3, run defense 87.4, pass rush 90.6 and 68.5 coverage grade and racked up 55 tackles (34 solo), 21.5 TFL, 15 sacks, 3 PD and forced 5 fumbles.  Key matchups against RB Ollie Gordon II (Oklahoma St) the Reigning Doak Walker Award Winner from 2023 and projected first rounder LT Kelvin Banks Jr (Texas).   Round 6 Rover/SLB-SAF Justin Barron (Syracuse) - 2023 College Football All-ACC Team.  Defensive Captain. 6’4” 231 pounds had 0.5 sacks, 3 *, 1 FR, 1 INT, and 8 PDs in 2023 (81.4 PFF grade).  In 2022 had 64 tackles and 5 TFLs.  Reminds me of Jaylon Carlies whom the Colts just drafted in Round 5P151.  Key matchup versus Cal and RB Jayden Ott.  WR Eric Singleton Jr (Georgia Tech), WR Kevin Concepcion (NC State), WR-X Ricky White (UNLV), RB Desmond Reid, TE Justin Joly (UConn).  Solid in zone coverage.   Round 7 SS Mishael Powell Miami (FL) – Powell transferred from Washington.  In Week 8 he clocked 21.0 mph.  In 876 snaps in 2023 Powell played 477 in the slot, 165 in the box, and 122 at FS finishing with a strong 73.9 coverage and 69 defensive grades.   Potential UDFAs ·         QB KJ Jefferson (Arkansas) - 2023 PFF TOW 2 honors ·         R3-UDFA RT Jalen Travis (Iowa State) 6’7” 310 pounds - While at Princeton finished with an overall 80.7 PFF Grade and 9th best OT in D1 (89% pass blocking and 75% run blocking grades). – Much like OT Tyler McLellan (Campbell) signed with Chargers, project to UDFA in 2025.  See how he does at Iowa State against better competition as he graded slightly behind Kiran Amegadjie (Yale) who was drafted in Round 3 P11 by the Bears in 2024 NFL draft.  Listed as backup behind Tyler Miller. ·         LT Adam Karas (Air Force) - After 9 weeks Karas has an 83.9 run-blocking grade and an overall PFF grade of 87.4.  Overall, 86.3 PFF grade with just one penalty and 1 QB hurry on 296 total snaps.  Decent height 6’4” ·         RT Josh Fryar (OSU) - 2023 earned college football midseason all-America Honorable Mention.  Fryar finished 2023 with a 70.8 overall PFF grade.  Great height 6’6”.  Finished with a 70.8 PFF grade.  Gave up a team high 5 sacks but did earn a 77.2 run blocking grade and a 71.2 pass blocking grade. ·         LG Rush Reimer (Cal) – In 2023 Reimer earned first-team All-Big Sky Conference at LG with an overall 75.8 PFF Grade (D1-T8) at Montana State.  See how he does against better CFB competition.  Project goes UDFA much like Jake Kubas (7) (NY Giants), Ross Palmer (3), and (2) Donny Ventrelli (Bears).  Could be the next Mason McCormick (6) drafted by the Steelers P119 in the 2024 NFL draft.  Montana State used a lot of Inside Zone runs.  Cal has Reimer listed as backup LT for 2024. ·         RT/OG Grey Zabel (North Dakota State) 6’6” 296 pounds.  Zabel finished 2023 with an overall 79.3 PFF Grade as an OG.  Finished 10th among other listed tackles last season.  As a guard would have been 4th best D1.  Zabel started all 15 games in 2023 with 3 at guard and 12 at RT. ·         RB Harrison Waylee (Wyoming) – In 2023 clocked 21.8 mph in Week 4 T18 fastest player. ·         RB/KR Lan Larison (UC Davis) finished 2023 tied 7th overall FCS RB with an overall 89.2 PFF Grade (R5) in D1.  On 178 carries rushed for 1101 yards scoring 13 TDS while adding two more through the air on 21 REC for 198 yards.  Larison was the 2023 Big Sky Offensive Player of the Year.  In 2021 averaged 29.91 yards as a kick returner and 21.9 yards in 2022. ·         SWR/RB/KR/PR Chris Tyree (ND) 4.29s-forty speed excellent 3.95s shuttle (HS) and 38” vertical (HS).  In 2023 Week 9 clocked 21.0 mph. ·         WRX/Z Bo Belquist (North Dakota) 2023 overall 88.6 PFF Grade.  For D1 graded out as one of the top 10 WRs behind Hayden Hatten 86.1 whom the Seahawks added as an UDFA. ·         SWR Jacob De Jesus (UNLV) – best PR/KR #3 in PR and #13 in KR.  De Jesus was a top nomination to win the Jet Award in 2023 who was given to Zachariah Branch (USC). ·         WR-X Dymere Miller (Rutgers) – 2023 College Football FCS All-America Team with Monmouth.  Miller finished as the best receiver (D1) in 2023 with a 92.3 PFF grade (only behind Nabers).  Monmouth ran an inside zone with three different concepts in its base A gap zone.  Also pinched in as a kickoff returner with success (13.67 and 12.5 avgs). ·         WR Isaac TeSlaa (Arkansas) – Great Midwest American Conference Offensive Player of the Year in 2022 and received Honorable Mention All-American.  Strengths are ball tracking, hands, athleticism, 50/50 extraordinaire. ·         LEdge Aaron Lewis (Rutgers) - 2022 PFF Weeks 6 and 12 honors.  A disappointing 2023 season compared to 2022 grading 10 points lower.  (75.9 in 2023 compared to 85.5 in 2022).  Poor run-defense grade of 59.8 but was still an elite pass rusher.  His 91.5 pass-rushing grade since 2022 ranks 10th among all FBS edge defenders and his 18.7% pass-rush win rate places 11th in Power Five.  Needs to improve his run game. ·         Jack OLB/RDE Steve Linton (Baylor) – Linton transferred to Baylor from Texas Tech.  Injury prone, in 2023 suffered a broken thumb in August, sprained ankle in Big 12 opener vs West Virginia, aggravated it the following week then missed the last four games of regular season with back problems.  72% tackling, 88% pass rush, 61% run defense, 72% coverage.  Decent 4.62s-forty speed and 6’5” 235 pounds. ·         NCB Yam Banks (Ole’ Miss) - Made 2022 PFF College All-America Second Team while playing at South Alabama.  For 2024 listed as backup.  In 2022 Banks was a first-team All-Sun Belt pick and third team in 2023.  In 45 games, Banks racked up 147 TOT, 7 INT (6 in 2022 T3 in nation). ·         LCB Tommi Hill (Nebraska) – 4.55s forty speed.  In 2023 had an outstanding QB rating when targeted of 38.6.  With another solid year Hill could move up.  ·         FS Saiku White (Lafayette) - In 2023 White moved from SS to FS and had a career year with a final 2023 defense grade 91.4 best for 2nd, pass rush grade 74.4, a 90.7 coverage grade 4th best, and an 80.7 run defense grade 98th.   Team Captain. Achieved a 3.75 GPA in 2023. ·         LS Byron Floyd (PITT) – Floyds 81.7 grade this season leads all FBS LS.  Of his 41 LS on both punts/kicks only one has been charted as off-target.  Does have ties to Colts new DL coach.  Luke Rhodes, age 32, signed a 4-year contract extension on 09/23.  ·         LS Nick Barcelos (Nevada) - 2023 college football midseason all-America Second Team as a long snapper – Luke Rhodes signed a 4-year extension with the Colts September 8th, 2023.

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