Johnhenry Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Peter apparently doesn't think much of the Colts defense or anything that they added in the off season. I think he is exagerating a bit but I do expect the Colts to lose a few games 35-30. I believe they will win the South by default (default of the other teams not being very good) but I also expect an early departure in the playoffs. The defense is a mess and that has to be fixed if they ever want to get Luck to the Super Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR91 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 well we will most likely have three rookies starting week one on defense. anderson parry, and smith if toler cant go. not to mention geathers will see time covering TEs. also who knows what mathis will provide this season and if you just look at the defense on paper, there arent really a lot of names that jump out so there is some cause of concern, but im taking a wait and see approach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coltsman1788 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I love our offense but have little confidence in this team's defensive ability. I agree with him...in my opinion, we've just turned our potentially high scoring offense from a luxury into a necessity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defjamz26 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 The defense is a big question mark. I have faith in it as a fan but looking at it from an unbiased view it's a huge unknown. No Redding. Jones is done for the season. We don't know what Langford will be, and we've got two rookies starting. Also don't know what the pass rush will look like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron11 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 it wont take 40 points to win. if you look at our schedule, most of our opponents dont have the offense to put up 40. we might have to score 30+ to beat denver and new england Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjwhiskers Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Our division isn't that bad. People forget there's a top defense in our division and a lot of young talent that can give us fits. I expect the colts to win because the colts have a great team, not because our division is weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOTT Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Who cares about a guy that writes for Patriots Weekly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefire4 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 We didn't have to score 40 every game last season. Are defense had some low scoring games including 0 points against the Bengals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnhenry Posted September 7, 2015 Author Share Posted September 7, 2015 Who cares about a guy that writes for Patriots Weekly? Well, he has been on the Brady side all along. However, weeks ago he correctly predicted the outcome of the trial and he listed the facts that would lead the judge to that opinion. I don't think King is a Patriot fan but I am sure that he admires Brady and the excellence that team has shown over the years. He also acknowledges the problems. He just never bought into Deflagegate and particularly the part about Brady having a hand in it. I agree with him. I think the facts were so fouled up and the investigation was so bad that I don't see how they fined or punished anyone. As far as Brady's phone, I would not have given it up either without a court order. Who knows what was on that phone and the NFL already has a record of leaking information. There could have been private texts between Brady and his wife or confidential business texts. The investigation had the other phones, they could see what if anything was said and if Brady was involved. I think it is time to just get over this and decide that it was much ado about nothing and one cannot even be sure if anything happened at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrence Owen Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Frankly, no-one knows how this defense will do. Â WAY to many new faces. especially in the front 7. Yes, it could be the bottom 3rd of the NFL...but it could also be a top 5 defense. Â We just don't know. Â And won't know till week 4-6 since these new faces will only get better week to week learning the system, and for some, adjusting to NFL speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnhenry Posted September 7, 2015 Author Share Posted September 7, 2015 Frankly, no-one knows how this defense will do. Â WAY to many new faces. especially in the front 7. Yes, it could be the bottom 3rd of the NFL...but it could also be a top 5 defense. Â We just don't know. Â And won't know till week 4-6 since these new faces will only get better week to week learning the system, and for some, adjusting to NFL speed.I don't think there is any chance that they are top five but if they are, the Super Bowl possibility is very real. I think there is a chance if they are upper half of the NFL. However, like you, I can see them being in the bottom third and that will mean the team will go nowhere in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron11 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015  I don't think King is a Patriot fanim pretty sure that he is a patriot fan. look at where hes from and the material he writes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnhenry Posted September 7, 2015 Author Share Posted September 7, 2015 im pretty sure that he is a patriot fan. look at where hes from and the material he writes.I have. You have to take into consideration that the Patriots, even though we hate it, have been the dominate NFL team for more than a decade. If he doesn't write about them, is he supposed to write about Jacksonville? He does write about Jacksonville but the best teams get the most coverage. I find him a good read with lots of great facts and takes on every team including the Colts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
USAFHoosier Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Didn't have to do that last year and there is more talent on the defensive side of the ball. Parry > Chapman, added Trent Cole, Anderson better pass rusher than Redding. If Parry and Anderson improve throughout the year, and they will, this is a better defense than last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron11 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I have. You have to take into consideration that the Patriots, even though we hate it, have been the dominate NFL team for more than a decade. If he doesn't write about them, is he supposed to write about Jacksonville? He does write about Jacksonville but the best teams get the most coverage. I find him a good read with lots of great facts and takes on every team including the Colts.hard to believe hes not a patriot fan when hes from Massachusetts and writes a lot of pro patriot articles. he also seems to hate the colts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bababooey Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Peter King is a joke, I stopped following him after his Robin Williams story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnhenry Posted September 7, 2015 Author Share Posted September 7, 2015 hard to believe hes not a patriot fan when hes from Massachusetts and writes a lot of pro patriot articles. he also seems to hate the colts. I don't think he hates the Colts at all. He just hasn't bought into the hype surrounding Luck but mentions how good he is. He is more critical of the Colt's defense or lack thereof. That is a professional observation. It has nothing to do with hate. Perhaps he also thought that griping about the balls after being whipped 45-7 was trying to win something in committee that they couldn't come close to on the field. It didn't work, it is over. It cost the Patriot's a million dollars (chicken feed) and a first and fourth round pick. They will recover from that and they will still be there because like him or hate him, they have the best coach in the NFL by a mile. Bring him here and the Colts start winning Super Bowls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKnight24 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 No we won't. Name 5 teams we're facing this year that can put up 40 pointsDon't worry, I'll wait............ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cynjin Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Well, he has been on the Brady side all along. However, weeks ago he correctly predicted the outcome of the trial and he listed the facts that would lead the judge to that opinion. I don't think King is a Patriot fan but I am sure that he admires Brady and the excellence that team has shown over the years. He also acknowledges the problems. He just never bought into Deflagegate and particularly the part about Brady having a hand in it. I agree with him. I think the facts were so fouled up and the investigation was so bad that I don't see how they fined or punished anyone. As far as Brady's phone, I would not have given it up either without a court order. Who knows what was on that phone and the NFL already has a record of leaking information. There could have been private texts between Brady and his wife or confidential business texts. The investigation had the other phones, they could see what if anything was said and if Brady was involved. I think it is time to just get over this and decide that it was much ado about nothing and one cannot even be sure if anything happened at all.  LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmopar Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 No we won't. Name 5 teams we're facing this year that can put up 40 pointsDon't worry, I'll wait............Patriots......Steelers SaintsBroncosAnd maybe just maybe the Panthers.. ( though their hit at WR isn't gonna help) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaron11 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I don't think he hates the Colts at all. He just hasn't bought into the hype surrounding Luck but mentions how good he is. He is more critical of the Colt's defense or lack thereof. That is a professional observation. It has nothing to do with hate. Perhaps he also thought that griping about the balls after being whipped 45-7 was trying to win something in committee that they couldn't come close to on the field. It didn't work, it is over. It cost the Patriot's a million dollars (chicken feed) and a first and fourth round pick. They will recover from that and they will still be there because like him or hate him, they have the best coach in the NFL by a mile. Bring him here and the Colts start winning Super Bowls.hes a pat fan just accept it. he is from MA and grew up in new england. he writes for patriots weekly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeedrinker Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I think something happened and the Colts coaches and FO do not feel they have much of a chance to reach the SB this year. IMO if you think you are close to getting to the SB you don't have 5 of your 6 Dlineman with 1 year experience or less. You don't back up your 30+ year old RB (no matter how good he is) with two rookies and a player coming back from 2 years worth of injuries. I like both Robison and Varga but both are rookies and are going to make mistakes if/when they get playing time. These are the type of moves you make when you're building for the future. Or maybe this will be what they do, keep the depth of the roster at league minimum salaries so they can pay out big money to AC/TY/Luck etc. Which that doesn't make a lot of sense because Superman has posted numerous times with examples of how they can sign everyone. I don't know, I can't figure out the reasoning behind the roster, on the Dline Okine was the only rookie or 1st year player that really showed consistency in his game, Anderson was close behind. Parry was wildly inconsistent, Kerr, whom I'm a fan of, goes hard for 2 or 3 plays and then disappears from 5 or 6. It just seems weird to me as I analyze the roster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smonroe Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Peter apparently doesn't think much of the Colts defense or anything that they added in the off season. I think he is exagerating a bit but I do expect the Colts to lose a few games 35-30. I believe they will win the South by default (default of the other teams not being very good) but I also expect an early departure in the playoffs. The defense is a mess and that has to be fixed if they ever want to get Luck to the Super Bowl.So I guess you don't think the 11th ranked total defense has improved at all? I want to see them play a game or two before I call them "a mess". Even then, it's a lot more important to see who's on the field in December. Way too early to pass judgement IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Defjamz26 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 So I guess you don't think the 11th ranked total defense has improved at all? I want to see them play a game or two before I call them "a mess". Even then, it's a lot more important to see who's on the field in December. Way too early to pass judgement IMHO.That's why I said it's a question mark. So many new pieces. New SS, new starting NT,etc...we really don't know what this defense is yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Patriots......SteelersSaintsBroncosAnd maybe just maybe the Panthers.. ( though their hit at WR isn't gonna help)I would have said the falcons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smonroe Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 That's why I said it's a question mark. So many new pieces. New SS, new starting NT,etc...we really don't know what this defense is yet.Right. IMO we upgraded at SS and OLB. I think we're deeper at LB too. No one can say how the new line looks yet. I think the biggest concern is at CB if Toler is hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatboy Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 The devil you know is always better than the you don't know, but given Chapman and company was ineffective in the biggest games last season, it might be as big a gamble replacing so many. No one knows - I'd think it would be hard to play cohesively week one, but all teams have changes they will need to adjust to, including personnel and coaching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Peter apparently doesn't think much of the Colts defense or anything that they added in the off season. I think he is exagerating a bit but I do expect the Colts to lose a few games 35-30. I believe they will win the South by default (default of the other teams not being very good) but I also expect an early departure in the playoffs. The defense is a mess and that has to be fixed if they ever want to get Luck to the Super Bowl. The defense is......   is a mess? It wasn't even a mess last year.      And so you think it's worse this year? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtsBlueFL Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I heard on NFL network Radio that the Colts will have to score at least 30, but only scored more than 30 in one out of our last six games last year. I think it might have been Pat Kirwin that said it. listening to all the (away from Indy) sports stations, it is apparent nobody has any faith in our defense. And all, to a man, believe teams can and will run on us at will. Myself, cautiously optimistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattceinicram Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I think our defense will be better than last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockThatBlue Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I think our defense will be better than last year.Me too. I think these rookies on the d line have shown more promise than the vets we just cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteelDragon Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 My guess is that the defense will be similar, statistically, to what it was last year; which in my view, isn't good enough unless the offense has a record-breaking season. Hopefully, Irving, Moore, Parry, and Anderson can provide the run-stopping muscle we were lacking last season. Our pass rush will be much improved. Our secondary is pretty good. It's the D-line that is worrisome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ar1888 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I hate to say it, but Peter King is right. Our defense with the loss of Jones has taken 2 steps back from where we were last season. The only thing that is improved is the addition of Robert Mathis. Coming off his type of injury, and his age to factor in, I am not very confident in how effective he will be. Our only hope is that we get get a lead so big, that it will take away opposing offenses running game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattceinicram Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I hate to say it, but Peter King is right. Our defense with the loss of Jones has taken 2 steps back from where we were last season. The only thing that is improved is the addition of Robert Mathis. Coming off his type of injury, and his age to factor in, I am not very confident in how effective he will be. Our only hope is that we get get a lead so big, that it will take away opposing offenses running game.We lost Art, but we have Trent Cole who can rush the passer, something we did not have last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnhenry Posted September 7, 2015 Author Share Posted September 7, 2015 The defense is......   is a mess? It wasn't even a mess last year.      And so you think it's worse this year? Really?Yes. Three rookies may be starting. There isn't a good nose tackle on the team. There have been injuries. There were no real substantive additions to that defense. When you consider those things, I think the defense will take a big step back. Add some injuries along the way and by the end of the year, it could be at the bottom of the NFL. I wish it were not so but I am afraid that it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patagonia Chris Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Yes. Three rookies may be starting. There isn't a good nose tackle on the team. There have been injuries. There were no real substantive additions to that defense. When you consider those things, I think the defense will take a big step back. Add some injuries along the way and by the end of the year, it could be at the bottom of the NFL. I wish it were not so but I am afraid that it is. I think you're going to be surprised.    Hopefully, happily surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patagonia Chris Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Yes. Three rookies may be starting. There isn't a good nose tackle on the team. There have been injuries. There were no real substantive additions to that defense. When you consider those things, I think the defense will take a big step back. Add some injuries along the way and by the end of the year, it could be at the bottom of the NFL. I wish it were not so but I am afraid that it is. Whatever! We signed the Rams backup DE! Pssssshhhh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOTT Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I hate to say it, but Peter King is right. Our defense with the loss of Jones has taken 2 steps back from where we were last season. The only thing that is improved is the addition of Robert Mathis. Coming off his type of injury, and his age to factor in, I am not very confident in how effective he will be. Our only hope is that we get get a lead so big, that it will take away opposing offenses running game.Jones didn't do anything last yr so why would the D take a step back due to his injury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDakColts Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I think something happened and the Colts coaches and FO do not feel they have much of a chance to reach the SB this year. IMO if you think you are close to getting to the SB you don't have 5 of your 6 Dlineman with 1 year experience or less. You don't back up your 30+ year old RB (no matter how good he is) with two rookies and a player coming back from 2 years worth of injuries. I like both Robison and Varga but both are rookies and are going to make mistakes if/when they get playing time. These are the type of moves you make when you're building for the future. Or maybe this will be what they do, keep the depth of the roster at league minimum salaries so they can pay out big money to AC/TY/Luck etc. Which that doesn't make a lot of sense because Superman has posted numerous times with examples of how they can sign everyone. I don't know, I can't figure out the reasoning behind the roster, on the Dline Okine was the only rookie or 1st year player that really showed consistency in his game, Anderson was close behind. Parry was wildly inconsistent, Kerr, whom I'm a fan of, goes hard for 2 or 3 plays and then disappears from 5 or 6. It just seems weird to me as I analyze the roster. It does seem a little weird. However, I like the linemen we kept better than the ones we let go. Yes the players we let go had more experience, but IMO the younger guys outplayed Chapman and Hughes soundly. I don't think we were expecting Art to go down so early and that instantly impairs our D-line rotation. I still think the FO has its eyes set on the Superbowl, but I just believe Grigs when with the best 53 this year compared to staying loyal to his previous years starters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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