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1) Why is Josh Cribbs, who is taking up a million or so in cap space, still on this team? He didn't play well at all last year and Whalen can return kicks and punts and be more useful in the passing game if called upon to do so. Plus, you can sign a specialist as an undrafted FA. Clear the cap space!

 

2) Donald Thomas? Why is he still on the roster taking up over 3 million is cap space? 3 games in 2 years both ending in torn quad injuries. I guess there must be someone thinking that he can return from these injuries and have a chance at starting because if there isn't then why keep him around with that kind of price tag? Am I wrong? Donnie, please...

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1) Its April; Whalen has really no more value to the passing game now than he did last year. He's pretty much in the same boat as Cribbs.

2) Its April

More than likely the Colts are done with signing any more FA's. The Colts are still sitting on ~10M, so even if there was anyone out there they are targeting they have a reasonable amount to still sign whomever. Wait until post June 1st to ask these questions, as that's when certain contracts hit their "value" in terms of being terminated.

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Agree with BleedBlu - it's April. 

 

I also agree Cribbs is a waste, but don't count on Whalen making the team.

 

I still want to see if Thomas can play. 

 

There may be more to it with contracts and dates that we don't know about.  But more importantly, like BB said - it's April!

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I bet we wait and see if we can improve our return game in the draft with someone standing out in training camp. I don't see Cribbs making the final 53. Donald Thomas will make the roster if he stays healthy and provide us with good guard depth which is part of the reason I think we should stay away from guard/center in this draft.

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Jesus christ cribbs makes a mistake and all of yall want his head. Little do you guys know he's the best kick returner on the team. Whalen didn't do good when he was returning punts. All they have to do is tell him to fair catch more and he'll be fine. Also he had some nice returns for us but all you guys can remember is his fumble in a game, we would have lost anyway even if he didn't fumble.

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Jesus christ cribbs makes a mistake and all of yall want his head. Little do you guys know he's the best kick returner on the team. Whalen didn't do good when he was returning punts. All they have to do is tell him to fair catch more and he'll be fine. Also he had some nice returns for us but all you guys can remember is his fumble in a game, we would have lost anyway even if he didn't fumble.

No reason to swear.  Cribbs had a lot more bad plays than the fumble in the AFCC game.  And it's debatable if he is the best kick returner on the team and he was a worse punt returner than Whalen.

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No reason to swear.  Cribbs had a lot more bad plays than the fumble in the AFCC game.  And it's debatable if he is the best kick returner on the team and he was a worse punt returner than Whalen.

Don't remember swearing, its never that serious. But Cribbs had better returns in the short time he was with us then whalen did. And correct me if im wrong but wasn't everyone saying the samething about whalen before we signed cribbs? He just needs to know when to fair catch a ball, which is fixable. I think he'll be fine. He is our best returner on the team by a mile, lets not kid ourselves.

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1) Why is Josh Cribbs, who is taking up a million or so in cap space, still on this team? He didn't play well at all last year and Whalen can return kicks and punts and be more useful in the passing game if called upon to do so. Plus, you can sign a specialist as an undrafted FA. Clear the cap space!

 

2) Donald Thomas? Why is he still on the roster taking up over 3 million is cap space? 3 games in 2 years both ending in torn quad injuries. I guess there must be someone thinking that he can return from these injuries and have a chance at starting because if there isn't then why keep him around with that kind of price tag? Am I wrong? Donnie, please...

When and if the Colts cut cribbs & Thomas what are you going to do with your share of the extra money? Lol

They don't need the cap space at the moment!

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Cribbs isn't hurting anything. I don't think he or Whalen make the team.

 

The one that makes me nervous is Thomas. If he gets hurt during workouts or camp, they have to pay him for nothing again. To me, they shouldn't be letting him in the building without a restructured contract.

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Probably just allowing these guys to come in and compete for a roster spot. There's basicwlly no reward releasing the now over releasing them right before the season starts. Free agency is over. I'm sure we want to see where a Cribbs is, because when we signed him he pretty much didn't play in a full year.

Thomas will probably be based on his health, but the signing of Herremans is going to make it tough for us to keep him, especially at his current salary.

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Jesus christ cribbs makes a mistake and all of yall want his head. Little do you guys know he's the best kick returner on the team. Whalen didn't do good when he was returning punts. All they have to do is tell him to fair catch more and he'll be fine. Also he had some nice returns for us but all you guys can remember is his fumble in a game, we would have lost anyway even if he didn't fumble.

It's funny isn't it?  I think the same thing.  His first few games he was a hero, but the last few he was a villan!  Also he was only with us half of a season.  People aren't that smart, so I just have to laugh!

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Don't remember swearing, its never that serious. But Cribbs had better returns in the short time he was with us then whalen did. And correct me if im wrong but wasn't everyone saying the samething about whalen before we signed cribbs? He just needs to know when to fair catch a ball, which is fixable. I think he'll be fine. He is our best returner on the team by a mile, lets not kid ourselves.

Curtis Painter was the best QB on our team in 2011......or maybe Dan O....

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Cribbs isn't hurting anything. I don't think he or Whalen make the team.

 

The one that makes me nervous is Thomas. If he gets hurt during workouts or camp, they have to pay him for nothing again. To me, they shouldn't be letting him in the building without a restructured contract.

I definitely agree with the restructuring immediately, if they want to keep him around, even before OTA's.  However, I feel the Colts have no motive to keep him.  I think they're probably waiting for June 1st to cut him.  If I was in the front office I wouldn't let him on the property though, because he is "mayhem"

 

PS  I work for Allstate lol

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I definitely agree with the restructuring immediately, if they want to keep him around, even before OTA's.  However, I feel the Colts have no motive to keep him.  I think they're probably waiting for June 1st to cut him.  If I was in the front office I wouldn't let him on the property though, because he is "mayhem"

 

PS  I work for Allstate lol

 

I love those Mayhem commercials... "RECALCULATING!"

 

They might be waiting until first OTAs in a couple weeks to examine him. If he looks good and the doctors feel good, a restructure with incentives would be a decent option. But if they let him on the field or in the weight room without re-doing his contract, they deserve whatever they get. 

 

A post-June 1 release (now a post-May 12 release, as of about a week ago) only saves the team an extra $250K in 2015, so I don't think that's a factor. Especially since they didn't use the designation on Landry, which would have saved an extra $1.75m. 

 

I hope they're still considering Gosder, also.

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Jesus christ cribbs makes a mistake and all of yall want his head. Little do you guys know he's the best kick returner on the team.

he made more than one mistake.  he made too many for me to want him coming back.  i know hes the best returner on the team right now, the idea is to get rid of him and get a better one

 

i would much rather we had someone back there thats willing to fair catch

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Cribbs isn't hurting anything. I don't think he or Whalen make the team.

 

The one that makes me nervous is Thomas. If he gets hurt during workouts or camp, they have to pay him for nothing again. To me, they shouldn't be letting him in the building without a restructured contract.

 

Or, take the 500k hit and let him go.  He's missed 30 of the last 32 games, and is a 3.75 mil cap hit risk if kept.  I don't know what skills Thomas has any more with that lack of play/practice time.

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Or, take the 500k hit and let him go.  He's missed 30 of the last 32 games, and is a 3.75 mil cap hit risk if kept.  I don't know what skills Thomas has any more with that lack of play/practice time.

 

He's probably not going to be anything for us. I probably would have released him already, but who knows what's going on behind the scenes. 

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Cribbs is far better than Whalen and even if they kept whalen he wont get any playing time at WR

Cribbs had a better average than Whalen on Kickoff returns. His punt return numbers are lower. Here is the stat that gets me: in 26 punt return attempts Whalen had 17 Fair catches. In 19 punt return attempts Cribbs has 8 fair catches. The guy needs to learn to fair catch. He's too risky with the ball for the reward. Plus, Whalen makes half the $ Cribbs makes..

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Don't remember swearing, its never that serious. But Cribbs had better returns in the short time he was with us then whalen did. And correct me if im wrong but wasn't everyone saying the samething about whalen before we signed cribbs? He just needs to know when to fair catch a ball, which is fixable. I think he'll be fine. He is our best returner on the team by a mile, lets not kid ourselves.

That's the nice thing about forums, you don't have to remember, you just have to read what you write.  But that is neither here nor there.  If Cribbs has not been able to "fix" his fair catching in the 1st 10 years what makes you think he can fix it in one year, especially when he has said that fair catching is not his game?

 

I will correct, not everyone was saying the same thing about Whalen before the Colts signed Cribbs.  There was a vocal minority.

 

Lastly, he is not the best returner by a mile or by far or undisputable.  He averaged almost 7 more yards per KR than Whalen and almost 1 yard less than Whalen per PR.  He's the more explosive of the two returners but that does not equate to better.

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Cribbs had a better average than Whalen on Kickoff returns. His punt return numbers are lower. Here is the stat that gets me: in 26 punt return attempts Whalen had 17 Fair catches. In 19 punt return attempts Cribbs has 8 fair catches. The guy needs to learn to fair catch. He's too risky with the ball for the reward. Plus, Whalen makes half the $ Cribbs makes..

 

I like the fact that cribbs at least tries.  We can get anyone to stand back there and fair catch a punt.  Cribbs pay is not going to kill us.

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