Colts Losing Goodwin

[dw49]

The Indianapolis Star reports new Cardinals coach Bruce Arians is expected to name Colts OL coach Harold Goodwin as his offensive coordinator.

The Arizona Republic confirms it. Goodwin has worked alongside Arians since 2007, but has been an offensive line coach his entire professional career. Arians is going to more-or-less serve as his own coordinator, and has already said he'll serve as play-caller.

[bavanlan]

Bring back Mudd (if he'll have us)!

[BOTT]

Mike Bloomgren lol

[MTC]

The O-line was terrible this year but I don't know if it was the coaches fault or not. Kinda surprising hire to be honest.

[seeblu]

Bring back Mudd (if he'll have us)!

 

   

[dw49]

The O-line was terrible this year but I don't know if it was the coaches fault or not. Kinda surprising hire to be honest.

 

 

 

With the talent level and injuries , hard to even think about blaming Goodwin. Also as good as Luck was , there is a case that he held the ball a bit long and maybe made a few mistakes that made the line look worse than it was. Yea .. for sure surprising. Looks to me that Arains envisions himself as both HC and OC.

[bavanlan]

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[Coltsman1788]

This is good in my opinion. Now we get to not only rebuild the offensive line but bring in some fresh leadership to guide and mold their development.  Nice clean slate to start from. 

[bavanlan]

Bring back Mudd (if he'll have us)!

And if he won't, bring back Saturday.

[Balzer40]

Bring back Mudd (if he'll have us)!

 

 

C'mon Bav. Its pretty obvious the Colts want to run a man blocking scheme with bigger stronger o-lineman. Mudd likes just the opposite. Just like Tom Moore, I don't think the Colts want any part of bringing back old re-treads from the old regime. 

[BrentMc11]

The Indianapolis Star reports new Cardinals coach Bruce Arians is expected to name Colts OL coach Harold Goodwin as his offensive coordinator.

The Arizona Republic confirms it. Goodwin has worked alongside Arians since 2007, but has been an offensive line coach his entire professional career. Arians is going to more-or-less serve as his own coordinator, and has already said he'll serve as play-caller.

This is called a SAFE hire for BA:  A confidant as OC....as we all know and have heard, BA will be calling his own plays.  I hope Goodwin learns, and becomes an excellent OC for years to come  I for one think he did a GREAT job with our mish mash of an OL...we were 11-5 with Link playing in almost every game...Olsen.....Sowell.....Essex.....Hills....and injuries....not to forget my diamond in the rough AQ Shipley. (All that beast needed was a chance (see Jeff Saturday) ) I neglected Satele.....only because of injuries and his head bob....that told the other team the snap count and whether it was pass/run)

 

I loved Mudd, but he had his problems at Philly.......is their any new names?  Stanford has had some pretty good OL?????  How about One of Stanford's 2 OL coaches?  Would that be a Cardinal sin?    

[21isSuperman]

This is a bummer.  I thought the O-line was improving slowly.  But I have faith that Pagano will find a really good coach to bring to Indy

[Jay Kirk]

Well heres some food for thought why not rob N ick Sabens Ol coach from him ,IMO his OLs look P.D.G. Kicker is I dont like Saben

[azcolt]

Goodwin must not be under contract because Grigson made it clear he won't let teams raid his coaching staff unless he has to. The Cards might want to check with Grigson before making this announcement.

[Jay Kirk]

Youve got to admit Alabama RBs keep chewing up yards,and yes those are talented backs,but they cant do it alone,and it seems to me the pass protection is there as well. And i Hate Alabama ,lets face it tho its a very good program

[Balzer40]

Goodwin must not be under contract because Grigson made it clear he won't let teams raid his coaching staff unless he has to. The Cards might want to check with Grigson before making this announcement.

 

 

I think he has to grant permission for promotions to HC or coodinators.

[bavanlan]

C'mon Bav. Its pretty obvious the Colts want to run a man blocking scheme with bigger stronger o-lineman. Mudd likes just the opposite. Just like Tom Moore, I don't think the Colts want any part of bringing back old re-treads from the old regime.

I agree with not bringing back Moore. I don't think an older coach is as effective in a coordinator position because of an inflexibility to deviate from old schemes.

I don't think the same necessarily of position coaches. You're not teaching schemes in as much as you're teaching techniques. And there's nothing that Howard Mudd doesn't know or can't teach.

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[GoColtsGo5150]

2 people that come to mind as a good replacement are Tom Cable ( OL coach for seahawks and former raiders HC): under him this year, Wilson was hit tied the 5th least compared to Luck ( 2nd most) and Pat Flaherty from the Giants who allowed the least sacks and 2nd least QB hits.   

[Balzer40]

I agree with not bringing back Moore. I don't think an older coach is as effective in a coordinator position because of an inflexibility to deviate from old schemes.

I don't think the same necessarily of position coaches. You're not teaching schemes in as much as you're teaching techniques. And there's nothing that Howard Mudd doesn't know or can't teach.

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That may be true, but I still think Mudd always wanted smaller, quicker O-lineman for zone blocking schemes. It would be better to find an o-line coach that specializes in man blocking schemes IMO. 

[Jay Kirk]

Lol lets think outside the box here,make it interesting   we dont need Mudd ,weve got plenty of it in Indiana right now TY

[HarassedOffTheSite]

Who we hire here matters. I'd rather have a guy from the NFL who is familiar with all of the defensive looks that teams in the league bring.

[BrentMc11]

This is called a SAFE hire for BA:  A confidant as OC....as we all know and have heard, BA will be calling his own plays.  I hope Goodwin learns, and becomes an excellent OC for years to come  I for one think he did a GREAT job with our mish mash of an OL...we were 11-5 with Link playing in almost every game...Olsen.....Sowell.....Essex.....Hills....and injuries....not to forget my diamond in the rough AQ Shipley. (All that beast needed was a chance (see Jeff Saturday) ) I neglected Satele.....only because of injuries and his head bob....that told the other team the snap count and whether it was pass/run)

 

I loved Mudd, but he had his problems at Philly.......is their any new names?  Stanford has had some pretty good OL?????  How about One of Stanford's 2 OL coaches?  Would that be a Cardinal sin?    

OL/Running game Coordinator Mike Bloomgren (FSU, Alabama, Jets) or Ron Crook Tight Ends.Offensive Tackles  (all college) are the Stanford coaches.  

 

I like Jay Kirk's Alabama idea.....Jeff Stoutland.  Very well respected....Alabama, Miami, Michigan State.....Syracuse!!

[dw49]

2 people that come to mind as a good replacement are Tom Cable ( OL coach for seahawks and former raiders HC): under him this year, Wilson was hit tied the 5th least compared to Luck ( 2nd most) and Pat Flaherty from the Giants who allowed the least sacks and 2nd least QB hits.   

 

 

Nice idea but pretty tough to accomplish lateral moves with coaches under contract.

[Tark The Shark]

I don't think the OL coach can be blamed for how bad the o-line was this year.

 

Suprised that Arians decided that he is going to be HC, OC, and play-caller. Let's see how it works in a full 16 game schedule.

[BrentMc11]

Youve got to admit Alabama RBs keep chewing up yards,and yes those are talented backs,but they cant do it alone,and it seems to me the pass protection is there as well. And i Hate Alabama ,lets face it tho its a very good program

That is one thing about us Jay, we tell it like it is  Whether we like the team or not......talent is talent....we cannot shy away from the truth!  Alabama is a bad   program that shows ZERO sign of letting up any time soon!  I do not like them either btw!!!! 

[Jay Kirk]

Who we hire here matters. I'd rather have a guy from the NFL who is familiar with all of the defensive looks that teams in the league bring.

I hear ya Brian but Sabens system is set up on just what your reffering too,hes no stranger to the NFL

[Jay Kirk]

That is one thing about us Jay, we tell it like it is  Whether we like the team or not......talent is talent....we cannot shy away from the truth!  Alabama is a bad   program that shows ZERO sign of letting up any time soon!  I do not like them either btw!!!! 

Yes Brother time we get our hand in ole Nicks cookie jar!!!    :cool:

[BrentMc11]

That may be true, but I still think Mudd always wanted smaller, quicker O-lineman for zone blocking schemes. It would be better to find an o-line coach that specializes in man blocking schemes IMO. 

I want a coach that teaches the lineman how to block in ANY scheme....I know I have said this before, but your elite linemen.....simply KNOW HOW TO BLOCK......all this Man vs. zone 'stuff' gets on my last nerve  Not really, but you know what I mean....put a 'hat' on somebody and open the darned hole!    

[HarassedOffTheSite]

I hear ya Brian but Sabens system is set up on just what your reffering too

 

Saban.

And it's a thought but I'd rather we have an NFL guy.

[Jay Kirk]

Im really sorry i miss spelled his name

[Jay Kirk]

NOT

[BrentMc11]

Yes Brother time we get our hand in ole Nicks cookie jar!!!    :cool:

Sorry buddy....just got some bad information:

 

You have reached your quota of positive votes for the day  

[Kyle]

we will probably hire Stanford's OLine coach.

 

 

P.S. That was a joke

[1959Colts]

The 2012 Colts O-line never seemed to know what their blocking assignments were.

Too often a blitzer came free, unblocked at our QB.

I am not saying this was all Harold Goodwin's fault...

But in my opinion, Arians can have him.

[chad72]

I have 2 candidates:

 

Pat Hill - Atlanta Falcons (Fresno State has produced some NFL quality OL, if I am not mistaken, I love his resume, has worked with Belichcik and the Ravens as well) - Paul Dunn is the main OL coach for the Falcons

 

Chris Morgan - Washington Redskins (if we use ZBS like Shanahan, this guy should work)

[Jay Kirk]

Lol i dont understand for the life of me why we are limited on positive votes lol.Is it a competition?

[BrentMc11]

I have 2 candidates:

 

Pat Hill - Atlanta Falcons (Fresno State has produced some NFL quality OL, if I am not mistaken, I love his resume, has worked with Belichcik and the Ravens as well) - Paul Dunn is the main OL coach for the Falcons

 

Chris Morgan - Washington Redskins (if we use ZBS like Shanahan, this guy should work)

Thank you, Chad...tired of seeing 72-74 year old retreads listed whether we like them or not.  The league needs new blood....new ideas!!!! 

[unitaswestand]

Here's one out of left field and a stretch.  Jeff Saturday is probably done as a  player.  I know there had been some talk about the Colts bringing him back in some capacity.  Curious if he would be interested in coaching OLine.  I know he has zero coaching experience.  But he seems like a leader and a sharp guy.

[Jay Kirk]

Exactly my point,the NFL is evolving,we dont need retreads as my Brother Brent stated,we need newer blood to evolve,or we just simply get LEFT BEHIND

[chad72]

Russ Grimm is former Steelers' OL coach, now Cardinals' OL coach. So I guess, Bruce Arians, while getting Goodwin, he did not want to burn that bridge with Russ Grimm that went all the way back to the Steelers, so he gave Goodwin a promotion. Otherwise, Grigson would not have let him go, if it was just a parallel move and Goodwin's promotion worked out for Arians and Goodwin to accomplish everything necessary.

 

Also, looking for coaches from playoff teams alive is a wait-and-see game.