Bruiser Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Catches Targets Yards Long play T.Y. Hilton IND 2 11 22 106 53.0 9.6 16 1.0 8 0 0 0 I read that lots of people thought TY would easily be a starter in Denver. I didn't think so then and I sure don't think so now. Especially with Welker coming back from suspension, I don't think any Colts receiver cracks that starting lineup but that is just my opinion. Their new receiver is playing great in replace of Eric Decker. It does make a difference on who the is QB throwing the ball. Emmanuel Sanders DEN 2 14 18 185 92.5 13.2 48 3.4 7 0 0 0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theanarchist Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I don't think TY is a #1. He's a good #2. He has exceptional speed and pretty decent hands. I think his route running is good. He's a good complimentary receiver and his forte is getting deep behind defenses. Unfortunately you need a good pass blocking offensive line in order to take full advantage of that kind of a receiver and right now we don't have that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lollygagger8 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 For how awesome TY is at stretching the field, why didn't we test the philly secondary with deep passes to him last night????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruiser Posted September 16, 2014 Author Share Posted September 16, 2014 For how awesome TY is at stretching the field, why didn't we test the philly secondary with deep passes to him last night?????Because he isn't that awesome? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1yrdandacloudofdust Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 You're blaming TY for the coaches sucking? He's better than Reggie is right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckColt Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 T.Y. is just fine, not a No.1 but very good.What is Nicks' excuse for being in the starting lineup, except that we paid a lot of $$$ for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lollygagger8 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Because he isn't that awesome? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockywoj Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I don't think TY is a number 1. I think he is a decent change of pace guy as a number 2 or more likely number 3 - a guy that can pull off the big play. Honestly, I'd rather see Moncrief in there, but I understand that he is likely too green at this point in familiarity with the play book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAPLOOK Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 (edited) No TY isn't a #1 and I don't think ever will be but he's a fine receiver that would be a welcome addition to pretty much any team in the league. Edited September 16, 2014 by 21isSuperman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeedrinker Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I still think TY is a number one. He played a good game yesterday and when things were on the line he was open and Luck was looking his way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmc394 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Not in a million years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Narcosys Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 You're blaming TY for the coaches sucking? He's better than Reggie is right now. Reggie has more receptions, more yards and more average yards per catch than TY. But TY is better? ya ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slick_Rick Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 For how awesome TY is at stretching the field, why didn't we test the philly secondary with deep passes to him last night?????We had one deep throw to him. It look like DPI to me, but I was waiting for a play action deep to him. With the way we were running last night, I can't believe we didn't try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lollygagger8 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 We had one deep throw to him. It look like DPI to me, but I was waiting for a play action deep to him. With the way we were running last night, I can't believe we didn't try. Like. An error occurredYou have reached your quota of positive votes for the day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKnight24 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 T.Y. is just fine, not a No.1 but very good.What is Nicks' excuse for being in the starting lineup, except that we paid a lot of $$$ for him.He's on a 1 year deal...... Highly doubt we paid much Stop kidding yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slick_Rick Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 He's on a 1 year deal...... Highly doubt we paid muchStop kidding yourselfI really enjoy your posts, sir. Your use of backhanded wit is truly artistic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wesd2890 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 You guys do realize that reggie is 6th all time in receptions.. for you who says t.y is better deserves a quick smack.. You cant keep dropping balls and be considered great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TKnight24 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I really enjoy your posts, sir. Your use of backhanded wit is truly artistic.*Takes Bow*Here all week, twice on Thursday's cause I'm filled with apple juice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwing BBZ Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Ty is a 3rd receiver who should play situationaly. He played way to much last nite that is for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash7 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Is it possible that T.Y. is actually a very good receiver, capable of being a #1 receiver, but we are pretending to be a smash mouth football team? What if we ran Philly's offense instead? In my opinion, he's better than Maclin or Riley Cooper and we would all be thinking " I wish we had that guy." Instead, we do have him. He's a great talent, and we complain. Ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayt327 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 TY is having some uncharacterstic drops this season. Not sure if he's a number 1, but he does give us big play ability with the ball in his hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dgambill Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Why do we need to put numbers on a guy. He is a starter...he deserves to start and he puts pressure on the back end of a defense. If he is utilized correctly he can very easily be our Desean Jackson/Emanual Sanders type burner. No he is probably not the carry the offense type of move the chains style receiver that Reggie was or say Andre Johnson but I think we could utilize him more in the under neath game and get him in space and to test him deep a couple times a game. #1, #2, #3...I don't care...just use him. I agree the big dissappointment has been Nicks....he hasn't been that much of an upgrade over DHB really to be honest. I know its just two games but he hasn't been that big target over the middle or anywhere really to bail us out on 3rd down....we still rely on Reggie. Shoot when a rookie comes in and has to tell Nicks where to line up...that tells me A LOT! I would almost rather see Moncrief get more snaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valpo2004 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 For how awesome TY is at stretching the field, why didn't we test the philly secondary with deep passes to him last night????? We did but he never really broke open on one. Fletcher had him shadowed the whole time when he went deep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisfarley Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 T.Y. will be as good or great as the Colts make him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corgi Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Not in a million years.Bruiser? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BpG Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 How many are willing to admit, in the off season they thought he would be a #1? I'll give you more respect for admitting you were wrong than hiding from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeSoColt Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I don't think anyone in their right mind ever thought TY was a #1. I surely hope not at least.Good #2/3 option, but he is average at everything besides running fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 How many are willing to admit, in the off season they thought he would be a #1?I'll give you more respect for admitting you were wrong than hiding from it.He would be the number one in Cleveland, that's for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash7 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 How many are willing to admit, in the off season they thought he would be a #1? I'll give you more respect for admitting you were wrong than hiding from it. Listen, I don't think T.Y. is the problem We ran the ball more than we threw it yesterday. For whatever reason, the coaching staff is Heii bent on making the Colts a smash mouth football team, despite having a dynamic receiving corps. As I said earlier, where would T.Y. be on the Eagles? He'd be a star in that offense. When we air it out, he's a star in our offense. Instead, we attempt 5-yard passes with our speed receiver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BpG Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Listen, I don't think T.Y. is the problem We ran the ball more than we threw it yesterday. For whatever reason, the coaching staff is Heii bent on making the Colts a smash mouth football team, despite having a dynamic receiving corps. As I said earlier, where would T.Y. be on the Eagles? He'd be a star in that offense. When we air it out, he's a star in our offense. Instead, we attempt 5-yard passes with our speed receiver. Kelly doesn't like little guys. He got rid of Jackson and brought in that kid from Vandy, Mathews. All of his receivers are big, the shortest one is Maclin and he came back on a one year deal. He would be the number one in Cleveland, that's for sure Not for sure, Andrew Hawkins has 157 receiving yards, more than anyone on the Colts and without Andrew Luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corgi Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 How many are willing to admit, in the off season they thought he would be a #1? I'll give you more respect for admitting you were wrong than hiding from it. It's been 2 games! Wait until the season is over before you strut around and sing your praises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Luck has been avoiding nicks for the most part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeedrinker Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Listen, I don't think T.Y. is the problem We ran the ball more than we threw it yesterday. For whatever reason, the coaching staff is Heii bent on making the Colts a smash mouth football team, despite having a dynamic receiving corps. As I said earlier, where would T.Y. be on the Eagles? He'd be a star in that offense. When we air it out, he's a star in our offense. Instead, we attempt 5-yard passes with our speed receiver.1st game the Colts had 53 passing plays and 9 running plays... and, despite the final score, were beat pretty easily. 2nd game they had 38 passing plays (4 of which Luck ran instead of throwing) and 34 running plays and they nearly (and should have won). Additionally, the Colts run a man blocking scheme, have big RBs and two of their 3 TEs are good run blockers... The Colts should be a smash mouth football team and if the offense plays like it did last night, they will win a lot more games then they will lose this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeedrinker Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 How many are willing to admit, in the off season they thought he would be a #1? I'll give you more respect for admitting you were wrong than hiding from it. Well, if it means having the respect of BpG then.... :rolleyes: In the offseason I thought TY was a number 1 receiver, I have not changed my mind in the slightest from the first two games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash7 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 1st game the Colts had 53 passing plays and 9 running plays... and, despite the final score, were beat pretty easily. 2nd game they had 38 passing plays (4 of which Luck ran instead of throwing) and 34 running plays and they nearly (and should have won). Additionally, the Colts run a man blocking scheme, have big RBs and two of their 3 TEs are good run blockers... The Colts should be a smash mouth football team and if the offense plays like it did last night, they will win a lot more games then they will lose this year.The Colts personnel that you have mentioned would be fine running most offenses, as they are good players. I feel that their talent is not being utilized to their maximum potential, and especially in a smash mouth style of scheme. Being a good run blocker will work in all offenses. My comment regarding smash mouth was more about what we've been attempting to build on offense since Pagano has been hired. He really wants a smash mouth style of offense, for whatever reason. This is based on his comments over the years here, and our unwillingness to go away from it, even when it hasn't worked for the most part. Last night was a pleasant exception. I think we are in agreement regarding T.Y.? He Had a 200-yard game in the playoffs followed by a 100-yard game in the playoffs. Let'snot forget about that and only remember two games in which the offense seemed out of sorts overall. T.Y. is fine. He will continue to impress us, just as he has done since day 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeedrinker Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 The Colts personnel that you have mentioned would be fine running most offenses, as they are good players. I feel that their talent is not being utilized to their maximum potential, and especially in a smash mouth style of scheme. Being a good run blocker will work in all offenses. T.Y. Had a 200-yard game in the playoffs followed by a 100-yard game in the playoffs. Let'snot forget about that and only remember two games in which the offense seemed out of sorts overall. T.Y. is fine. He will continue to impress us, just as he has done since day 1.I don't have an issue with TY. Thus the reason I still think he is a #1 WR caliber player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash7 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 I don't have an issue with TY. Thus the reason I still think he is a #1 WR caliber player.My apologies, Coffedrinker. I was actually editing my reply to you when you responded to this post. Please see my updated response. I will always try to have a civilized response and look for discussion rather than argument. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeedrinker Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 My apologies, Coffedrinker. I was actually editing my reply to you when you responded to this post. Please see my updated response. I will always try to have a civilized response and look for discussion rather than argument.No need to apologize, I was just letting you know I agree with you about TY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckColt Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 Luck has been avoiding nicks for the most partThat's because the guy is almost never open. Luck has to throw it into a tight window too close to the defender.This is also one reason the Giants let him go...he wasn't getting open. Rogers has this problem to a certain degree as well but overcomes a lot of it with his size and physical ability to out-muscle the defender. Griff gets open just fine and Moncrief as well.I think the young guys should get more plays-from-scrimmage and Nicks get less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProblChld32 Posted September 16, 2014 Share Posted September 16, 2014 For how awesome TY is at stretching the field, why didn't we test the philly secondary with deep passes to him last night????? One word, Pep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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