Phil J Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Yeah I agree on Powers. Unless he resigns for a cheap contract, he's not coming back. He is a nickel corner at best in our new system. We need to find a long term solution at the other starting CB spot opposite Vontae Davis in the offseason.Agreed, Butler suits fine for the rest of the season, but I would love for us to go after another shutdown corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krunk Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Any one hear anything on when Vontae is coming back.He and Fleener did not practice today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrentMc11 Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 (edited) Why did we sign miller isn't fleener coming back and we already have Allen and SaundersMy guess is Fleener is still banged up, and Arians feels the need tfor the 3rd TE....something he has seen in film.....maybe even yesterday's near miss by the Bills.I like the move because I have not understood why others have come and gone on our PS this year and Miller has stayed/stuck....maybe we will find out that I can eat my words.....and Miller will kill some bootie! I am all for it. :thmup: :thmup: Edited November 12, 2012 by BrentMc11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Nevis was a good piece in our rotation. Doubt if he is back next year, too short.Too short for what??? He's an inch taller than Chapman.He's under contract through 2014, by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay Kirk Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 IMO when Chapman gets up to speed,will be a major boost for this DL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 What's your thoughts on Nevis going to the IR?I thought Nevis was a serviceable backup, a good rotational guy, Nothing really outstanding by any stretch but between him and Moala they are serviceable and could play end and even Nose on pass rushing downs, neither are great but worth short term contracts going forward, although if I had to choose which would get the contract I would choose Moala. both seem like if we drafted 3-4 DE in the draft then both would be solid depth with the ability to start going forward. I think Moala has been the better of the 2. Both need development in terms of pass rush from 3-4 DE on pass rush downs. I think Moala is better at holding up at the point of attack at this stage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
braveheartcolt Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Oh dear, we are Powerless. We just improved our team today.....Shame about Nevis, he did try hard.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krunk Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 I thought Nevis was a serviceable backup, a good rotational guy, Nothing really outstanding by any stretch but between him and Moala they are serviceable and could play end and even Nose on pass rushing downs, neither are great but worth short term contracts going forward, although if I had to choose which would get the contract I would choose Moala. both seem like if we drafted 3-4 DE in the draft then both would be solid depth with the ability to start going forward. I think Moala has been the better of the 2. Both need development in terms of pass rush from 3-4 DE on pass rush downs. I think Moala is better at holding up at the point of attack at this stageMy issue is who is going to be the other DT opposite Redding in Nickel situations now that Nevis is gone. In running situations I think Geathers and Guy will be okay as part of the rotation I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmgww Posted November 12, 2012 Share Posted November 12, 2012 Powers injury, someone asked....my guess is the dreaded "turf toe". That darn injury has ended players' careers. It never really goes away a lot of times...Powers wasn't a good fit in this system but we're now dangerously thin at CB. Davis better get healthy! He was starting to get the system down when he got hurt (you didn't hear his name, that's a good thing). Nevis was solid, if unspectacular...had a nice sack against J-Ville. Bummer, but such is life in the NFL. Excited to see what Chapman can do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 My issue is who is going to be the other DT opposite Redding in Nickel situations now that Nevis is gone. In running situations I think Geathers and Guy will be okay as part of the rotation I suppose.Moala, Matthews or a Free Agent not on the team yet would be my guess, Not sure what the current Free Agent list looks like now, cant find an updated list Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HungarianColtsFan Posted November 13, 2012 Author Share Posted November 13, 2012 at least now we can all agree trading for Davis was well worth it.Hmmm Davis is injured a lot too, and he hasn't shown up significant performance so far. I'd expect a little more from him. A guy on nfl.com believes that signing Davis may cost Grigson the "Executive of the Year" title...We will see. I think Davis has talent, but somehow he should prove it on the field. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HungarianColtsFan Posted November 13, 2012 Author Share Posted November 13, 2012 just fyi, that is 11-12-2012 here in the states ;)Sorry, I'm back in time again...Seriously, we are taught here to use dd.mm.yyyy format, and sometimes I forget to switch overseas mode... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FightLikeSin Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 To all.... explain to me the significance of Josh Chapman..above any other untested rookieHow good do you think he is?Similar to the excitement of having Andrew Luck come onto the team... win you have a player that is absolutely dominant at his position in college, you are excited to see if he can bring that to the next level and remain pleasantly optimistic that it will translate accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krunk Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Moala, Matthews or a Free Agent not on the team yet would be my guess, Not sure what the current Free Agent list looks like now, cant find an updated listI suppose Moala could do it, but he's normally known for his run stuffing ability. My guess would be Matthews, but he certainly doesn't blow me away. I always wonder why Matthews always finds a way to remain with the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 I suppose Moala could do it, but he's normally known for his run stuffing ability. My guess would be Matthews, but he certainly doesn't blow me away. I always wonder why Matthews always finds a way to remain with the team.eh I dont know but his contract is not up till 2014 and he is cheap by NFL standards this year and next , looking at Spotrac many of our guys are signed beyond this year and come cheap, the players I dont have on the team next year are (in my opinion of course as of today, that could change of course)Martin Tevasue (contract up end of year)Marshay Green(contract up at end of year)Dwight Freeney (Contract up at end of year)Austin Collie (Injuries plus contract up)Justice debatably could be brought back as depth but contract is upCassius Vaughn(contract up)Tony Hills(contract up)Justin HickmanNow obviously other lists will vary and you can make a case to add someone or takeoff someone on this list (Im really hoping they resign Shipley) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltsfanatic24 Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 chapman is the best run stopper on the team, if he's healthy he's gonna start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deedub75 Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 It's a toe. The specifics aren't out there, but it must be pretty bad to be put on IR.Could it be the dreaded Lisfranc injury? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balzer40 Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Could it be the dreaded Lisfranc injury?I had a Lisfranc injury back in '97 and it took nearly 9 months before I could walk without a limp. Im sure these guys get much better medical treatment than I did though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tark The Shark Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 Shame to lose Powers and Nevis.Nevis had a high motor and brought energy to the front line.Powers was getting burned a lot but I am a bit worried about the lack of depth at CB. I think we should at least give a workout to Stanford Routt.Having Chapman back will be big to help plug the middle. Even if it is limited, any help versus Brady and the Pats offense, I will take it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarassedOffTheSite Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 December 11, 2012? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownColt Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 “Yeah I think he could play in a limited role vs Patriots from what we’ve seen. We’re healthy at that position so there’s no forcing the issue,” Arians said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtStrong Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 chapman is the best run stopper on the team, if he's healthy he's gonna start.Chapman hasn't played a down yet, how do you know this? Btw, I'm hoping he turns out to be a great run stopper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtStrong Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 December 11, 2012?The OP is from europe. They do the day first there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_ Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 chapman is the best run stopper on the team, if he's healthy he's gonna start.Lol. He will not be the starter right away. First theyll want to slowly ease him in to the speed of the game and to make sure his knee will hold up. Then he'll have to earn the starting spot by outperforming the other nt's, which he probably will in time. He will not however become the starter in his first game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jason_ Posted November 13, 2012 Share Posted November 13, 2012 The OP is from europe. They do the day first there.Something that was already addressed at the top of the page had someone paid attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HungarianColtsFan Posted November 14, 2012 Author Share Posted November 14, 2012 Powers, Nevis are out for the season:Colts Update @ColtsUpdate Colts defenders must step up with Jerraud Powers, Drake Nevis out for season http://sns.mx/Mup9y3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbrads_rants Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Too short for what??? He's an inch taller than Chapman.He's under contract through 2014, by the way.Chapman is as wide as he is tall...and stronger..thats the difference.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColts8818 Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 To all.... explain to me the significance of Josh Chapman..above any other untested rookieHow good do you think he is?was rated as a second round pick talent wise. He feel because of his acl injury. Frankly I think some expect to be the savior of the defense I don't. He's a rookie with no camp, no preseason, no otas, and coming off a major injury. It will take him some time to figure it out at the nfl level. I just hope all those who except him to be the answers to our prayers right away afford him the time to develop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Chapman is as wide as he is tall...and stronger..thats the difference....That's why Chapman is a nose tackle. Nevis is not. I still don't understand what makes Nevis "too short" to play his position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrentMc11 Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 That's why Chapman is a nose tackle. Nevis is not. I still don't understand what makes Nevis "too short" to play his position.Remember...we had a thread where there was too tall too....when I mentioned "Too Tall Jones." I guess there is too short too? Danny Devito comes to mind!!!! 5 foot tall......Leverage at NT is an enormous edge. I am looking for the "Just Right height" HMMMMM! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Leverage at NT is an enormous edge. I am looking for the "Just Right height" HMMMMM!I get that. But Nevis isn't a nose tackle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrentMc11 Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 I get that. But Nevis isn't a nose tackle.I know.....just making a height point..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbrads_rants Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 That's why Chapman is a nose tackle. Nevis is not. I still don't understand what makes Nevis "too short" to play his position.A Solid 3-4 DE is 6-3 or better with longer arms......He doesnt have the body for it..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbear Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Nevis is the big concern. Powers.....not so much..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gavin Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 Nevis is a penetrator, thats what he was at LSU, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted November 14, 2012 Share Posted November 14, 2012 A Solid 3-4 DE is 6-3 or better with longer arms......He doesnt have the body for it.....It's like we're talking about basketball.The only reason Nevis is playing any five-tech end is because of our defensive scheme. He still plays plenty of three-tech tackle -- his true position -- within our scheme. I agree that he's not a true five-tech, and I've said that since before we changed defenses. But that's not because of his height. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horse Shoe Heaven Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 I didn't know Nevis's and Power's injuries were that bad. I agree Both are good players would like both back Powers I think can still fit the scheme! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lollygagger8 Posted November 15, 2012 Share Posted November 15, 2012 Too bad we still don't have Jamaal Anderson. He played well for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownColt Posted November 16, 2012 Share Posted November 16, 2012 Mike Chappell @mchappell51 #colts elevate CB teddy williams to active roster from PS; waive CB marshay green. still leaves them with four CBs for Tom Brady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pombi9 Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Hmmm Davis is injured a lot too, and he hasn't shown up significant performance so far. I'd expect a little more from him. A guy on nfl.com believes that signing Davis may cost Grigson the "Executive of the Year" title... We will see. I think Davis has talent, but somehow he should prove it on the field. Lol how do you feel about this sentiment now? Davis had 2 picks last week! His play has proved it. You still think the trade will cost Grigson executive of the year? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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