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1 minute ago, Superman said:

 

When asked about the message it sends to players about how the team values them in contract negotiations, Ballard got firm and testy. 'Go ask the guys in the locker room.' Mentioned Kelly, Nelson, implied that they've paid other players, and they take care of their own.

I do agree with Ballard in the fact that he likes to pay our best players top dollar, unfortunately for us they don’t play “premium” positions. Taylor just happens to play probably the least vital position on offense.

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5 minutes ago, tweezy32 said:

The ending says it all lol

Clear back in the spring I said don’t expect many free agent signings ect because Steichen has not seen these guys play. He has to evaluate this roster before anything big will happen.

 

JMV is a *. He just took this quote as Ballard blaming jt for the 4 wins lol.

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11 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

He is a great communicator I always struggle though if he is just a good used car salesman lol.

Yep. Look, no one hates to cut players more than Chris does, no one is more honest with the players, shoot no one is more honest to the media, look, no one values relationships more than Chris. I thought he did well today on the JT stuff, but he could dial back the “I’m the smartest most sincere most honest guy in the room” act a bit for my tastes. But I know a lot of fans like CB so maybe it’s just me. 

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1 minute ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Clear back in the spring I said don’t expect many free agent signings ect because Steichen has not seen these guys play. He has to evaluate this roster before anything big will happen.

 

JMV is a *. He just took this quote as Ballard blaming jt for the 4 wins lol.

 

Which is ridiculous. I took it as NO ONE is getting paid right now. Off a 4 win season, everything must be evaluated. Which is true...look at MPJ, he didn't get an extension either. 

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2 minutes ago, cjwhiskers said:

Overall a good press conference. Media asked some good questions. JT questions got a bit repetitive as the media tried extracting answers in different ways and some of their questions are just downright terrible. 

 

When asked about the WR situation, Ballard mentioned roster mechanics. I bet that means McKenzie will be back. 

 

Seems he has a ton of hope for the TE group that we have, which makes sense. AR is going to like them big bodies IMO. TE's usually are a rookie's best friend. Big Granson season incoming I think.

 

He spoke glowingly of Jaylon Jones (our 7th round pick) and is really happy on the progress of Nick Cross. 

 

Thinks we are young but doesn't see it as a detriment overall. "How do VETS become VETS? Kids got to play". I like that philosophy. Let's take the growing pains now in a year with a rookie QB. 

I did notice when he was talking up the TE room he never mentioned Mo. I’m still hoping someone would be desperate enough to offer us a 7th round pick for him. 

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1 minute ago, Chucklez said:

Yeah this last line completely contradicted the entire press conference where spent 75% of the time saying that Taylor is a great player and that he is going to do everything he can to keep him.

Reporter asks "Taylor is a great player, so why not pay him?" and Ballard basically just said "Because he doesnt matter in the win/loss column." without actually saying it.

I think Taylor is gone.

 

That's an interesting interpretation...

 

When you add the context of how Ballard has previously answered that question, I think the point was that they want to see how everyone looks in Steichen's offense before they commit more money.

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Just now, Colts.sb41 said:

I did notice when he was talking up the TE room he never mentioned Mo. I’m still hoping someone would be desperate enough to offer us a 7th round pick for him. 

 

Very true, but I think he only mentioned Ogletree and Mallory so I'm not sure it means much for Mo. The response was part of the overall lack of WR question so maybe he mentioned those specifically because they can be seen as more receiving TEs. 

 

I am super pumped for Drew Ogletree. I think he's going to be really freaking good over the middle with AR.

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6 minutes ago, Colts.sb41 said:

I do agree with Ballard in the fact that he likes to pay our best players top dollar, unfortunately for us they don’t play “premium” positions. Taylor just happens to play probably the least vital position on offense.

 

Another reason I think Taylor is making a mistake to try to get traded. The Colts are still the most likely team to pay him, for better or for worse. 

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4 minutes ago, Smonroe said:

 

There's hurt and there's hurt.  I bet every guy on the roster would say he has something that hurts.

 

So neither side is lying.  The real question is - if he was happy with the contract, would he/could he play right now?  I'm pretty sure the answer is Yes.

Good response but I disagree. I don’t think JT still has pain. By every description of this surgery, he should be fine. And he hasn’t played in ages, so the “every guy has pain” doesn’t apply because he hasn’t been busting it in camp. But like I said, if he’s still hurting from this basic surgery, it’s time to send him off to ankle specialists all over the world. Just my view. Heck, you could be right. 

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Just now, cjwhiskers said:

 

Very true, but I think he only mentioned Ogletree and Mallory so I'm not sure it means much for Mo. The response was part of the overall lack of WR question so maybe he mentioned those specifically because they can be seen as more receiving TEs. 

 

I am super pumped for Drew Ogletree. I think he's going to be really freaking good over the middle with AR.

I could be wrong but I think he talked about Granson too? Ogletree is exciting and the catch he had in the pre season surprised me how well he can move.

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2 minutes ago, ShuteAt168 said:

Good response but I disagree. I don’t think JT still has pain. By every description of this surgery, he should be fine. And he hasn’t played in ages, so the “every guy has pain” doesn’t apply because he hasn’t been busting it in camp. But like I said, if he’s still hurting from this basic surgery, it’s time to send him off to ankle specialists all over the world. Just my view. Heck, you could be right. 

 

Yeah, we're both just speculating.  But to be put on PuP, you have to have a legitimate reason.  And, as I said, every guy out there has something hurting.

 

I agree, if it's real that the ankle is bad after surgery, I wouldn't even consider giving him an extension.  I just don't think it's serious (again, MHO and you could be spot on).

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5 minutes ago, Superman said:

I think the point was that they want to see how everyone looks in Steichen's offense before they commit more money.

Which leads us to the very simple answer of why JT hasn’t been payed: They don’t yet no how valuable a RB will be in Steichen’s offense to warrant paying JT the type of money he is asking for. Which is probably why Irsay said they wanted to wait until after the season to pay him at first.

 

That’s slightly different from my original take which was that they just didn’t want to pay him what he was asking. 

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Just now, Defjamz26 said:

Which leads us to the very simple answer of why JT hasn’t been payed: They don’t yet no how valuable a RB will be in Steichen’s offense to warrant paying JT the type of money he is asking for. Which is probably why Irsay said they wanted to wait until after the season to pay him at first.

 

That’s slightly different from my original take which was that they just didn’t want to pay him what he was asking. 

 

Looking at the RBs for the SB teams, it's a legitimate argument.  However, it helps to have a great O line, and Mahomes or Hurts as the QB.

 

But you can't put JT in the same category as the RBs on those teams.  He's special and adds so much to an offense with a QB like AR.  It goes from an RB getting 4 yards because the D is worried about AR, to breaking a long run.  

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Listening to him I think we are going with the OL we have.  Don’t think any veteran FA are coming.  He’s going to let this group play.  Shane actually picked up one of his lineman from the Eagles.  So he’s happy about that I’m sure.  He also seemed excited about Rainmann’s development.  Going with the youth and counting on the new OL coach.  Seemed excited about the DE we picked up from Dallas too.  Talked quite a bit about him.

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Not saying the Colts should do or even want to do this but I wonder if Ballard went to Taylor and say hey you have these numbers by this week we will offer you X for X years and make it known to Taylor what he’s trying isn’t going to work they won’t be trading him no matter what and they are fine with him sitting on PUP until his contract is suspended and then let Taylor have a couple of weeks to think it over he might come back and play.  

16 minutes ago, Colts.sb41 said:

I could be wrong but I think he talked about Granson too? Ogletree is exciting and the catch he had in the pre season surprised me how well he can move.

Yeah the only two tightends he didn’t mention were Mo and Woods.

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4 minutes ago, richard pallo said:

Listening to him I think we are going with the OL we have.  Don’t think any veteran FA are coming.  He’s going to let this group play.  Shane actually picked up one of his lineman from the Eagles.  So he’s happy about that I’m sure.  He also seemed excited about Rainmann’s development.  Going with the youth and counting on the new OL coach.  Seemed excited about the DE we picked up from Dallas too.  Talked quite a bit about him.

Right. Maybe that's best. Chances are any vet signed now would be a disappointment anyways.

At least, if the backups do get called upon, they will get a good look, as to if they got what it takes or not?

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2 minutes ago, Smonroe said:

 

Looking at the RBs for the SB teams, it's a legitimate argument.  However, it helps to have a great O line, and Mahomes or Hurts as the QB.

 

But you can't put JT in the same category as the RBs on those teams.  He's special and adds so much to an offense with a QB like AR.  It goes from an RB getting 4 yards because the D is worried about AR, to breaking a long run.  

Oh yeah JT is in a league of his own. I live in Jersey so there’s a lot of Giants fans here, and I tell them. All the time that Taylornis better than Barkley. But despite how special he is, I think he may be in a Miles Sanders situation. Obviously he’s way more talented than Sanders, but even after having a career year in Philly, they chose to let him walk because in a Sirianni offense, it’s RB by committee. The then upcoming contracts of Hurts, Slay, and Bradberry definitely left little wiggle room for them and played a part, but ultimately he wasn’t that valuable to them.

 

Remember that Steichen said in his introductory presser that quote “Were going to throw to score points and run to win”. It may be that despite him being an elite player, that it may not be worth paying him what he wants if he’s not going to be the focal point.

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6 minutes ago, richard pallo said:

Listening to him I think we are going with the OL we have.  Don’t think any veteran FA are coming.  He’s going to let this group play.  Shane actually picked up one of his lineman from the Eagles.  So he’s happy about that I’m sure.  He also seemed excited about Rainmann’s development.  Going with the youth and counting on the new OL coach.  Seemed excited about the DE we picked up from Dallas too.  Talked quite a bit about him.

One above average or even just average Right Guard can change the look of this Oline this year if Bernard can keep up his strong performance

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50 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

Another reason I think Taylor is making a mistake to try to get traded. The Colts are still the most likely team to pay him, for better or for worse. 

Yeah at this point Taylor will most likely be getting a probe it deal next year at best

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Hidden in all the JT talk... what made an impression on me was Ballard vocal and emphatic endorsement and bet on Jaylon Jones. Not only did he talk glowingly about him and the scout that stood on the table for him... but he made the comparison against Darius Rush and he said Jones is one of the main reason for Rush to be cut. He must be pretty certain about Jones' potential... this can so easily be held against him if it does not pan out the way he sees it. 

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2 hours ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

I do feel that if this relationship is going to be salvaged Ballard will be able to do that. Maybe Shane too.

 

2 hours ago, TaylorStillTruckedYou said:

If anyone can do it, it’s Ballard

ballard let this situtation get out of hand , he should fix it asap, that is what he is getting paid for.

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9 minutes ago, stitches said:

Hidden in all the JT talk... what made an impression on me was Ballard vocal and emphatic endorsement and bet on Jaylon Jones. Not only did he talk glowingly about him and the scout that stood on the table for him... but he made the comparison against Darius Rush and he said Jones is one of the main reason for Rush to be cut. He must be pretty certain about Jones' potential... this can so easily be held against him if it does not pan out the way he sees it. 

 

Meh. Fifth round picks get cut all the time, and 7th round picks get kept all the time. I don't think it's a big deal either way.

 

But I do appreciate how emphatic he was about the players at that position. I think it's going to be tough sledding at times, but I think Bradley's defense is conducive to having young corners learning on the fly, so I'm not as worried about that spot as others have been. And I think they hoped they could sneak Rush through waivers and get him back on the PS, and I bet they'll put in a claim if he ever gets waived again this season.

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17 minutes ago, stitches said:

Hidden in all the JT talk... what made an impression on me was Ballard vocal and emphatic endorsement and bet on Jaylon Jones. Not only did he talk glowingly about him and the scout that stood on the table for him... but he made the comparison against Darius Rush and he said Jones is one of the main reason for Rush to be cut. He must be pretty certain about Jones' potential... this can so easily be held against him if it does not pan out the way he sees it. 


“This can so easily be held against him if it does not pan out the way he sees it.”

 

First off, in this community the bar is pretty low for what can be held against him.   
 

Second, you’re talking about a 5th rounder who didn’t work out as hoped and a 7th rounder who did.   What is it you think can be “held against him.” ???

 

On the list of things Ballard has done wrong, I seriously doubt this would reach the top 25?   Top 50?   
 


 

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I still am wondering wth is CB thinking at the WR position!? The lady asked about the depth and he says they have plenty of time to sort all that depth out!? Does he not know the 1st game is less than a week away??? Does he not know it takes a long time for QBs and WRs to get their timing down? Im sure McKenzie/Strahan/etc will be lifted from the PS at some point, but CB needs to trade for a sure top 4 wr depth wise asap!

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Just now, IndyEric07 said:

I still am wondering wth is CB thinking at the WR position!? The lady asked about the depth and he says they have plenty of time to sort all that depth out!? Does he not know the 1st game is less than a week away??? Does he not know it takes a long time for QBs and WRs to get their timing down? Im sure McKenzie/Strahan/etc will be lifted from the PS at some point, but CB needs to trade for a sure top 4 wr depth wise asap!


The first games is more than a week away,   Not less than one.    Sept 10.   There’s still plenty of time.  

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10 minutes ago, IndyEric07 said:

I still am wondering wth is CB thinking at the WR position!? The lady asked about the depth and he says they have plenty of time to sort all that depth out!? Does he not know the 1st game is less than a week away??? Does he not know it takes a long time for QBs and WRs to get their timing down? Im sure McKenzie/Strahan/etc will be lifted from the PS at some point, but CB needs to trade for a sure top 4 wr depth wise asap!

 

I think we have a good group of 4. McKenzie is back on the active roster.

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I'm listening back because I missed the first half of the presser. Holder is basically representing Taylor. He said 'I know one of his concerns is the tag, is it true he offered to come in if you agreed not to use the tag?' 

 

I've never been anti Holder, but he's off the rails on this issue. Totally in the bag for one side against the other. Lots of other media guys appear to be doing the same.

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