Eagles should now trade for freeney

[wabbwubb]

They just freed up the space in cap so maybe they make a move for freeney soon.........

[Fx Stryker]

What makes you say they are interested?

[Ryan Pelley]

The last thing they need is another DE.... Jason Babin, Trent Cole, former first round pick Brandon Graham, and Darryl Tapp.

[bavanlan]

What makes you say they are interested?

I think the main factor is that it just seems like a good fit with them now frequently running a 9 tech at the DE spot.

[bahhummbug]

Freeney to Cincy crossing my fingers draft is near liked you Dwight time to hit the road jack.

[Captain Americolt]

Lol bahhummbug you seriously dont like Freeney huh? Not taking a shot at you, but whenever I stumble upon one of your posts its about cutting/trading freeney. Im with you though, I dont think he fits the scheme that well and takes up too much cap space

[21isSuperman]

Freeney won't go to Philly. They already have Babin, Jenkins, and Cole who all did well last year.

[MSColtsFan]

The worst part of the deal was the 7th round pick. I finally came around on the need to move Freeney, but if Samuel only cost a team a 7th, I would think that's about what Freeney could get. Maybe a sixth? And now I'm back to seeing the value in keeping Freeney. I'd rather keep Freeney and that hideous cap hit than get pick 242 or whatever. It's a contract year - maybe Freeney will be a beast to get that last contract. Lesser players have produced a ton in their contract years.

[Jules]

Falcons?

Please not the Bears. I don't want to play Freeney next year .

[Peytonparker]

Freeney to Cincy crossing my fingers draft is near liked you Dwight time to hit the road jack.

I would like Freeney to Cincy for one of their 1st rd picks

[MSColtsFan]

I would like Freeney to Cincy for one of their 1st rd picks

And I'd like to date Rosie Huntington-Whiteley. Nobody is giving up a first round pick to acquire a 33 year old, $19 million, 17 tackle 8.5 sack DE for one year. Asante Samuel was had for a 7th rounder. What is Freeney's true value? I don't know any more, but it isn't a first rounder, I don't think.

[dgambill]

The worst part of the deal was the 7th round pick. I finally came around on the need to move Freeney, but if Samuel only cost a team a 7th, I would think that's about what Freeney could get. Maybe a sixth? And now I'm back to seeing the value in keeping Freeney. I'd rather keep Freeney and that hideous cap hit than get pick 242 or whatever. It's a contract year - maybe Freeney will be a beast to get that last contract. Lesser players have produced a ton in their contract years.

Cutting Samuels was about cutting salary and a player that no longer fit their scheme. (They couldn't get all 3 of their corners on the field enough to warrent 10 million dollars). I agree without Freeney restructuring we won't get a single team to bite because no one can afford him.

Either he would have to resign/trade or we would have to trade and take on another bad salary. Just not happening.

[LUVTHESHOE]

I would like Freeney to Cincy for one of their 1st rd picks

There is no chance a guy who averages about a tackle a game get s you more than a 4th rounder. Nothing against DF,BUT HIS NUMBERS LATELY ARE NOT THE GREATEST. When the first two numbers of your cap hit is more than your tackles per year,that is not good.

[MTC]

I doubt Colts trade him.

[Superman]

His tackle numbers have nothing to do with his trade value. I don't know why people keep bringing them up.

But the fact that Asante Samuel only brought back a 7th rounder makes me wonder whether we could get a pick at all out of a Freeney trade.

[Balzer40]

I would like Freeney to Cincy for one of their 1st rd picks

Yet, another fan that is completely overblowing a players trade value. There is no way on Earth, Venus, Mars, or even Uranus( ) that any team would give up a 1st for Freeney. Be lucky to get a 5th for him.

[deedub75]

And I'd like to date Rosie Huntington-Whiteley. Nobody is giving up a first round pick to acquire a 33 year old, $19 million, 17 tackle 8.5 sack DE for one year. Asante Samuel was had for a 7th rounder. What is Freeney's true value? I don't know any more, but it isn't a first rounder, I don't think.

I think Philly was a bit more desparate to move Samuel before the draft. They are trying to free up cap space and win now. Colts are not as desperate since they are rebuilding. Colts could hold on to Freeney and demand a higher pick or just hold on to him and he'll be gone next year.

[Peytonparker]

Yet, another fan that is completely overblowing a players trade value. There is no way on Earth, Venus, Mars, or even Uranus( ) that any team would give up a 1st for Freeney. Be lucky to get a 5th for him.

I just said I would like it, don't expect it is going to happen

[BProland85]

Freeney to Cincy crossing my fingers draft is near liked you Dwight time to hit the road jack.

Cincy would be a team that makes sense since they have extra picks. New England is another team that could trade for Freeney. I just hope we can get a 3rd or better.

[MSColtsFan]

I think Philly was a bit more desparate to move Samuel before the draft. They are trying to free up cap space and win now. Colts are not as desperate since they are rebuilding. Colts could hold on to Freeney and demand a higher pick or just hold on to him and he'll be gone next year.

You know, I'm not as sure about that as you are. Everyone is saying the right things, but that $19 million and trying a new position or being a 3-4 DE (which I don't think is possible at all) is a pretty big elephant in the room.

[Jay305]

They ran Peyton out of town and now you guys want to run Freeney out aswell...Christ you cant make this stuff up

[MSColtsFan]

They ran Peyton out of town and now you guys want to run Freeney out aswell...Christ you cant make this stuff up

I'm sorry that I have serious issues with $19 million for 17 tackles, but I really do. You can remain comfortable with that, I have no problem with that at all. But I think that is a horrible return on investment. Freeney is one of my favorites, always will be. That doesn't change the numbers.

[Jay305]

I'm sorry that I have serious issues with $19 million for 17 tackles, but I really do. You can remain comfortable with that, I have no problem with that at all. But I think that is a horrible return on investment. Freeney is one of my favorites, always will be. That doesn't change the numbers.

Herp derp 17 tackles in our past scheme his job was not to rack up tackles.

[MSColtsFan]

Herp derp 17 tackles in our past scheme his job was not to rack up tackles.

Well that explains why the Colts D was so pourous. I was unaware that one or more of the eleven players on the field was not actually expected to tackle anyone.

Ok... Freeney earned around $1 million per sack last year. A little less. And he'll need about 24 sacks this year to keep that ratio.

[Gavin]

8 sacks and learning a new position for the first time at 32 doesnt justify 14 or 19 million million dollars

[Dan]

When the first two numbers of your cap hit is more than your tackles per year,that is not good.

Really? Isn't Mathis' cap hit this year 5.75m? He didn't make 57 tackles last year.

[MSColtsFan]

Really? Isn't Mathis' cap hit this year 5.75m? He didn't make 57 tackles last year.

No, but 43 with 9,5 for almost a fourth of the cost does support the point that I think is pretty clear, which is Freeney was, and is about to be, substantially over paid.

[Boneman2]

8 sacks and learning a new position for the first time at 32 doesnt justify 14 or 19 million million dollars

^^^ 14, the other 5 is unavoidable..........

I think Freeney would accept an extension with the right team, allowing us to trade him. The specific team would run a 4-3 and score a lot of pts for Freeney to be effective, he knows it, and so do other GMs.

He's an elite, hand in the dirt, pass rusher that any high scoring team could utilize. His specialty coming out of the draft was rushing the passer (4.4 40), which at the time fit perfectly with the Triplets.

We cannot turn him into something he is not, so to contend he is terrible is totally inaccurate. I contend he could easily get 10+ sacks on a team like the Patriots, right now, and a few years beyond.

[OldSchoolColt]

First, no trade will happen unless the Colts have everyone totally fooled that they plan on keeping him and not dropping him because of his contract. May be the reason the Colts have talked so much about him being a part of the 3-4 defense and yet not redoing his contract that would include a bonus that we would have to eat. If Freeney's agent worked out a deal with some other team that involved an immediate restructuring of his contract if they traded for him, I could see a team wanting his services to make that difference for them getting late into the playoffs or more. Hopefully a trade for a talented younger player we could use and a draft pick.

[Poster X]

They ran Peyton out of town and now you guys want to run Freeney out aswell...Christ you cant make this stuff up

Facepalm.

[Deano1818]

It does seem to defy logic that they would tie up so much cap space on a rebuilding team for a guy who would not seem to fit the part

If we were in the SB hunt..... It might make sense to make this work

I am in the camp of gettung whatever you can for him.... He ISNT going to be part of the defense when we make our first playoff run 2-3 years out....... Why keep him now

If i could get a 5th this weekend.......... I would pull the trigger

[Smitto]

And I'd like to date Rosie Huntington-Whiteley. Nobody is giving up a first round pick to acquire a 33 year old, $19 million, 17 tackle 8.5 sack DE for one year. Asante Samuel was had for a 7th rounder. What is Freeney's true value? I don't know any more, but it isn't a first rounder, I don't think.

Unlike freeney Samuel isn't a HOF and you can't compare CB to DE DEs get paid more so his value would be more... nothing less than a 2nd round pick for freeney because he still has gas left in his tank

[wordofmouth]

IF Pagano really thinks he can play at a high level in this defence, which is not that big of a stretch, than lets give it a shot and see.

The salaray cap hit is almost meaningless right now as we are not in the hunt for a playoff position yet.

Next year his contract is up. If he looks like he can help us out then we sign him to a contract that matches his value. If not, we let him walk and possibly get as high as a thrid round comp pick, assuming we don't go on a free agent spending spree.

That's my feeling, unless we can get a third or above right now which I'm not sure is going to be possible.

[MSColtsFan]

Unlike freeney Samuel isn't a HOF and you can't compare CB to DE DEs get paid more so his value would be more... nothing less than a 2nd round pick for freeney because he still has gas left in his tank

Haley and Greene aren't in the HOF, so placing Freeney there is not at all a sure thing to me. Sure as heck won't be a first ballot. He'll wait if he does get in. And, like the log jam at WR, Freeney's sack numbers will not be so overwhelmingly good in his own era as to separate him from many others. And when there are many others, people tend to wait a long time. Mathis will likely end up with as many sacks. Mathis going in too? Freeney is fourth just on the active player list in sacks (2011 - Taylor is finally done, right?). He isn't statistically the best in his own era, not even getting into history. And there won't be a HOF year with three sack specialists - that isn't how the HOF handles volume.

As for the second round pick, or first mentioned earlier, I respect your opinion, hope you're right, but disagree. He is a specialist. He has been one dimensional (we're about to find out if that proves true or not as the Colts have said he'll go to OLB). Without a new contract there are only a handful of teams with the space to get him, fewer still who play a 4-3. I love DF. I wanted him to renegotiate and stay here. If they have to move him, I hope it's for a great return. I just don't see it happening. Samuel's value to the Patriots, and in his first few years with the Eagles, was absolutely as critical to team success as Freeney was to the Colts.

I think splitting the difference between the first or second camp, and the Samuel 7th rounder, is probably more realistic. So 4th? Early to mid-5th? There is a huge need and market for a guy like Freeney. But he has to dump that contract in order to open those markets. And if he was unwilling to do it with the Colts, I don't know if he'll do it with anyone else.

[arthurmabie]

why is everyone writing colts off.last year no qb.keep freeney what would philly give anyhow 6th or 7th round pick.colts can win at least 10 games if they don't panic

[Gavin]

why is everyone writing colts off.last year no qb.keep freeney what would philly give anyhow 6th or 7th round pick.colts can win at least 10 games if they don't panic

um have you checked out our offensive line? we will be luck to keep Luck upright unless we draft a Guard and we got Freeny and Mathis who never played Linebacker in their life, right now Freeny is a 14 million dollar experiment at Linebacker

[Balzer40]

um have you checked out our offensive line? we will be luck to keep Luck upright unless we draft a Guard and we got Freeny and Mathis who never played Linebacker in their life, right now Freeny is a 14 million dollar experiment at Linebacker

I think people keep overstating just how bad the O-line is. It will not be that bad, in fact, I think they will be pretty good now that they have a coaching staff that knows how to coach.

[Gavin]

I think people keep overstating just how bad the O-line is. It will not be that bad, in fact, I think they will be pretty good now that they have a coaching staff that knows how to coach.

Injuries were awful last year to the line but I'd love to get Cordy Glen or Zeitler or Konz if he magically falls past the Bengals those men are violent on that line

[Balzer40]

Injuries were awful last year to the line but I'd love to get Cordy Glen or Zeitler or Konz if he magically falls past the Bengals those men are violent on that line

My only real concern with the O-line is Justice. Im not sure that they brought him here to be the starter or if he's just depth, but I really think Ijalana will be a good lineman, either at guard or tackle. I think we need one more lineman out of this draft and it just depends on where they are going to put Ijalana whether its a guard or a tackle.

[IinD]

According to Peter King we are trying to trade Freeney again.