Which QB gives us the best chance to win in 2023?

[2006Coltsbestever]

This will tell the tale right here.

[Gigc]

not sure any of them do.

Peyton was one of the best rookie QBs ever.

and he threw 26 picks and we went 3-13 his first year. On a team with bookend OTs, Marvin Harrison and Marshall Faulk.

 

 

[ColtsUrUs]

Can't list some of the QB's on this list because they can't be had by the Colts. That's like putting Josh Allen on your list also but knowing we can't pick him. 

[Chucklez]

Im an *, i voted Stroud because i just assumed it was an all rookie list, then spotted Lamar after i had voted.

Just go ahead and take 1 of CJ and put it on Lamar, he undeniably gives us the best chance to win this year. CJ might be the better option long term if we knew we could get him though.

[NewColtsFan]

I sincerely hope the Colts don’t pick the quarterback based on who will win the most games in 2023.   
 

I want them to pick the quarterback who they believe will win the most games over what will hopefully be a 10, 12, or 15 year career.   
 

So if Levis wins 7 games his rookie year because he’s more pro ready, and Richardson only wins 4 games because he lacks experience, that means NOTHING to me.    I want the Colts to take the QB who is going to have the best CAREER.  Not the best 2023. 

[Mr. Irrelevant]

Eehh, that is a very loaded question / poll because of course Lamar is the choice if you only focus on 2023. You draft a rookie QB for the future so really a nonsense poll imho.

[chad72]

You should have included Minshew, IMO, to make it fair, otherwise it is a poll tilted towards Lamar. Wasn't that the strategy all this time anyways, signing retread QBs so that there is no pause in winning short term?

 

We have to think long term.

[coming on strong]

Obviously Lamar is the only answer because the rest are rookies . But long term I’ll take Levi’s all day . 

[csmopar]

4 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

This will tell the tale right here.

Curtis painter

[2006Coltsbestever]

4 hours ago, ColtsUrUs said:

Can't list some of the QB's on this list because they can't be had by the Colts. That's like putting Josh Allen on your list also but knowing we can't pick him. 

The point of the thread is, I listed the 5 most likely options we will end up with and I wanted people's opinion on who they think would give us the best chance to win in 2023. You missed the entire point, the 5 QB's I listed is all anyone is talking about. Of course Josh Allen is not going to be on the list. 

Just as I thought Lamar is running away with it.

[2006Coltsbestever]

3 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

I sincerely hope the Colts don’t pick the quarterback based on who will win the most games in 2023.   
 

I want them to pick the quarterback who they believe will win the most games over what will hopefully be a 10, 12, or 15 year career.   
 

So if Levis wins 7 games his rookie year because he’s more pro ready, and Richardson only wins 4 games because he lacks experience, that means NOTHING to me.    I want the Colts to take the QB who is going to have the best CAREER.  Not the best 2023. 

So at 26 years old, you don't think Lamar at least can play 7-10  more years. Fair enough because I suppose you could say he has been injured lately.

 

If this was a poll with just the rookies, I would have voted Young.

[ChuggaBeer]

6 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

The point of the thread is, I listed the 5 most likely options we will end up with and I wanted people's opinion on who they think would give us the best chance to win in 2023. You missed the entire point, the 5 QB's I listed is all anyone is talking about. Of course Josh Allen is not going to be on the list. 

Just as I thought Lamar is running away with it.

You left off Hendon Hooker.   Because Anderson and Hooker is better than all of them. 

[OLD FAN MAN]

9 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

So at 26 years old, you don't think Lamar at least can play 7-10  more years. Fair enough because I suppose you could say he has been injured lately.

 

If this was a poll with just the rookies, I would have voted Young.

hooker

[sb41champs]

Any QB NOT named Carson Wentz - or - Jacoby Brissett gives us the best chance.

 

We are in a mini-rebuild - and - we will be building the roster to accent the skill set of the QB we select.

 

The question is:  Does Gardner Minshew "hold down the fort" for a while until our new franchise QB is "ready for prime time"?

 

Because the answer to that question is - at least a few weeks.

 

So MINSHEW is the QB who gives us the best chance.

[NewColtsFan]

23 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

So at 26 years old, you don't think Lamar at least can play 7-10  more years. Fair enough because I suppose you could say he has been injured lately.

 

If this was a poll with just the rookies, I would have voted Young.

My issues with Jackson are many but here’s one that I have yet to read in any of your Lamar posts. 
 

What has to happen to the roster in order to fit a $50m WB to the roster?    Who would have to get cut?    It’s much, Much, MUCH harder than you think.     I have many other reasons, but let’s stRt with that one.  
 

Honestly, when I first responded, I was only dealing with the rookies.   I don’t think the trio of Irsay, Ballard and Steichen would make the moves for Lamar.   And if they did I think the Ravens would match. 

[cdgacoltsfan]

Minchew

[Myles]

7 minutes ago, cdgacoltsfan said:

Minchew

Minshew would have my vote.

[LJpalmbeacher2]

the win total in 2023 is not important if a rookie QB is drafted. The relevant thing with a rookie QB is his progression to the nfl game in seasons starting in '24 or '25. 

The Great Bert Jones didn't become a super star until his third season.

 

For the colts to win in '23 the colts would need to trade for Lamar Jackson.....and that's NOT HAPPENING!!!

[2006Coltsbestever]

4 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

My issues with Jackson are many but here’s one that I have yet to read in any of your Lamar posts. 
 

What has to happen to the roster in order to fit a $50m WB to the roster?    Who would have to get cut?    It’s much, Much, MUCH harder than you think.     I have many other reasons, but let’s stRt with that one.  
 

Honestly, when I first responded, I was only dealing with the rookies.   I don’t think the trio of Irsay, Ballard and Steichen would make the moves for Lamar.   And if they did I think the Ravens would match. 

The money situation is dicey. I am still not sure what Lamar wants. I keep hearing different stories on that. Some stories just assume that he wants more than is being led on. I have no idea on this one because I have no facts on what Lamar wants.

I should have added Minshew and Hooker to the options, my bad.

[throwing BBZ]

6 hours ago, ChuggaBeer said:

You left off Hendon Hooker.   Because Anderson and Hooker is better than all of them. 

 

 He is more likely than Lamar so his premise is false.

[superrep1967]

Well, Jackson would take our whole salary cap and more. I'll go with Levis he's the most NFL-ready of the QBs that will be available at 4. We also get him for cheap for four years so we can build around him. I have faith in Stiechen and Cooter to develop him and make the best of that great arm. 

[superrep1967]

On 3/23/2023 at 4:36 PM, NewColtsFan said:

My issues with Jackson are many but here’s one that I have yet to read in any of your Lamar posts. 
 

What has to happen to the roster in order to fit a $50m WB to the roster?    Who would have to get cut?    It’s much, Much, MUCH harder than you think.     I have many other reasons, but let’s stRt with that one.  
 

Honestly, when I first responded, I was only dealing with the rookies.   I don’t think the trio of Irsay, Ballard and Steichen would make the moves for Lamar.   And if they did I think the Ravens would match. 

The most intelligent post yet about the QBs very well done. I also happen to agree but it's not why I think it's a great post. 

[NewColtsFan]

59 minutes ago, superrep1967 said:

The most intelligent post yet about the QBs very well done. I also happen to agree but it's not why I think it's a great post. 

You’re very kind and generous.   Appreciate the thought.         

[rockywoj]

Colts negotiate a trade with Baltimore, this year’s #1 (4th overall) and next year’s 2nd rounder.  Colts then sign Jackson to a 5 year, $235m w/$135m guaranteed.

 

How would this resonate amongst Colts nation?

[throwing BBZ]

In this win now scenario they would have kept Gilmore.

Explain how we get past the 2 first rd pick rule.

[rockywoj]

Just now, throwing BBZ said:

In this win now scenario they would have kept Gilmore.

Explain how we get past the 2 first rd pick rule.

Get around it by working out a trade with Baltimore for less.

[crazycolt1]

2 minutes ago, rockywoj said:

Get around it by working out a trade with Baltimore for less.

And just why would Baltimore trade for less? 

[NFLfan]

On 3/23/2023 at 4:04 PM, 2006Coltsbestever said:

The point of the thread is, I listed the 5 most likely options we will end up with and I wanted people's opinion on who they think would give us the best chance to win in 2023. You missed the entire point, the 5 QB's I listed is all anyone is talking about. Of course Josh Allen is not going to be on the list. 

Just as I thought Lamar is running away with it.

 

Most veterans would win this poll if your goal is to win next year. 

 

15 minutes ago, rockywoj said:

Colts negotiate a trade with Baltimore, this year’s #1 (4th overall) and next year’s 2nd rounder.  Colts then sign Jackson to a 5 year, $235m w/$135m guaranteed.

 

How would this resonate amongst Colts nation?

 

A trade would work a lot better than signing him as a free agent. That trade looks good for the Colts but maybe not Baltimore. 

 

The one thing Jackson has going for him is that he is still very young (25 or so) and has experience. He would probably do very well with Steichen.

[crazycolt1]

 

On 3/23/2023 at 4:04 PM, 2006Coltsbestever said:

The point of the thread is, I listed the 5 most likely options we will end up with and I wanted people's opinion on who they think would give us the best chance to win in 2023. You missed the entire point, the 5 QB's I listed is all anyone is talking about. Of course Josh Allen is not going to be on the list. 

Just as I thought Lamar is running away with it.

Only because he is the only veteran QB listed. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

6 hours ago, crazycolt1 said:

 

Only because he is the only veteran QB listed. 

I could have listed a few others, what other vets gives us a better chance of winning than Lamar would? 

[2006Coltsbestever]

7 hours ago, NFLfan said:

 

Most veterans would win this poll if your goal is to win next year. 

 

 

A trade would work a lot better than signing him as a free agent. That trade looks good for the Colts but maybe not Baltimore. 

 

The one thing Jackson has going for him is that he is still very young (25 or so) and has experience. He would probably do very well with Steichen.

I think Lamar gives us a chance of not only winning next year but for the next 7 years. He is only 26.

[NFLfan]

11 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I think Lamar gives us a chance of not only winning next year but for the next 7 years. He is only 26.

 

Yes, I agree but the poll specifically asked who gives the Colts the best chance to win next year. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

5 minutes ago, NFLfan said:

 

Yes, I agree but the poll specifically asked who gives the Colts the best chance to win next year. 

Yeah I could have worded it better. I should have known being in here with all the high IQ football people in here they would find loopholes with my question. I say that in a good way, not being a smarty pie or anything. I should have added Hooker, Minshew, or even none of the above.

[NFLfan]

1 minute ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Yeah I could have worded it better. I should have known being in here with all the high IQ football people in here they would find loopholes with my question. I say that in a good way, not being a smarty pie or anything. I should gave added Hooker, Minshew, or even none of the above.

 

All is well. 

[Pelt]

I voted Jackson simply based on the logic of it. He's a veteran and former MVP. Naturally, you stand the best chance with him.

 

But I don't see us trading for him.

 

And I noticed Minshew wasn't on the list. He's my next logical choice.

 

Other than that, if we turn the keys to the car over early to any of these rookies... well, I'm already resigned to the prospect of not winning much this next season. As in, not even sniffing the playoffs.

 

I would just like to see flashes and improvement. See signs of something special developing with this team.

[2006Coltsbestever]

Just now, NFLfan said:

 

All is well. 

Isn't it wonderful, the offseason that is 

[4daUColts]

we should have gotten Garopalo when we had the chance

[King Colt]

lamar "Sitting out due to injuries every year" Jackson has lost an estimted $60,000,000 already this year because he is stupid. We don't need a stupid player at any position much less under center Maybe the XFL will pay him.

[GoColts8818]

For 2023 without question it’s Jackson.  He’s a former league MVP and the rest of these guys are rookies.  However, the Colts aren’t making a decision for 2023 they are making a decision they hope for the next 10 to 15 years and then it’s anyone’s guess as to who is the best option on this list.  

[cdgacoltsfan]

I could be proven wrong but I think  Minchew is the best " backup " QB the Indy Colts have ever had.