Sirriani takes shot at Colts over Frank firing

[chickenMan]

Not surprised he said this, but clearly he’s wrong. Frank’s teams never showed up ready to play and his play calling got worse and worse over the time he was here. I really like Frank, but he wasn’t the right guy.

[chad72]

Sirianni's take on Frank is emotional, our take living through the first 9 games is drastically different and hence the disconnect to see eye-to-eye. So, let him have his emotional day but quit talking about it after now. 

 

Both teams will be moving on to their next game.

[Dobbinblitz]

Yeah - OK Nick!  Frank had five years and finally lost the locker room.

His teams never seemed ready to start a season or a game.

[AKB]

im not mad at Sirianni for saying this. 

 

agree to disagree sorta thing. 

[buccolts]

On to the Packers

[GoColts8818]

Standing up for a friend and a person he considers a mentor.  I get it.  Regardless of if it had happened after the New England game or at the end of the year time had come for Frank and the Colts to break up.  Someone else will give Frank another job and I hope he does well.  Hopefully the Colts land a good coach too if they don’t keep Saturday.  

[colts89]

Sirriani's friend should have done better at his job.

[Dobbinblitz]

4 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

Standing up for a friend and a person he considers a mentor.  I get it.  Regardless of if it had happened after the New England game or at the end of the year time had come for Frank and the Colts to break up.  Someone else will give Frank another job and I hope he does well.  Hopefully the Colts land a good coach too if they don’t keep Saturday.  

Taken in context I get his support also. The Colts did, however, support Reich in giving Sirianni the opportunity to become an Offensive Coordinator. Irsay also paid Sirianni for 3 years. Siranni would not last five years in Philly doing what Frank did here,

So Whatever - next up Steelers.

[buccolts]

If Frank were still our HC would Nick have had his team tank for us?

[Zoltan]

We know Frank from a fan perspective, Sirianni actually knows Frank the person. He was a friend and a mentor to him and you know what it has been a dysfunctional organization from the top down this year. 

[Thunderbolt]

He’s a loyalist not looking at the business side of things. Siriani inherited a team that’s already had a Franchise QB an excellent GM something we’re lacking.

[#12.]

Siriani is living on a fantasy world. If he has a chance to the make the playoffs in 2023 and chokes it away against the worst team in the NFL, then puts the worst offense in the league on the field for the first 9 games of 2024, he'll be fired too.

[shasta519]

Well of course. Reich is a mentorship figure for Sirianni. He gave Sirianni his big chance...and that has led to immense success.

[shasta519]

3 minutes ago, Thunderbolt said:

He’s a loyalist not looking at the business side of things. Siriani inherited a team that’s already had a Franchise QB an excellent GM something we’re lacking.

 

That's true. But to Sirianni's credit, Hurts wasn't any type of sure thing. They went from a dysfunctional, 4-win team to a SB contender in two offseasons. 

 

PHI was where IND is now. The difference is that they were proactive in getting a young QB. So the GM part is very true. Roseman took a lot of % for that Hurts pick, along with whiffing on draft picks (Reagor > Jefferson), but his record speaks for itself. There was a time not long ago when people laughed at how bad Ballard fleeced Roseman.

[teganslaw]

This was a personal issue for Sirianni, so I can understand why he made those remarks. He sees this from a different perspective, and I can't fault him for that. 

 

Many fans felt that things needed to change, and Reich's play calling was going nowhere. I've always liked Reich, but something needed to be done to help the team move forward. 

[Moosejawcolt]

4 minutes ago, teganslaw said:

This was a personal issue for Sirianni, so I can understand why he made those remarks. He sees this from a different perspective, and I can't fault him for that. 

 

Many fans felt that things needed to change, and Reich's play calling was going nowhere. I've always liked Reich, but something needed to be done to help the team move forward. 

Well if Saturday loses out and doesn't win another game then  maybe Sireani is right and coaching wasn't the issue. Also, if Frank lost the locker room was it do to his coaching or the fact that they don't have the talent and that is on the players and the GM. U know the funny thing is this. This team could easily be 9 and 2. They have just craped the bed at crunch time. The turnovers have killed them and the Oline play.

[NewColtsFan]

59 minutes ago, Dobbinblitz said:

Yeah - OK Nick!  Frank had five years and finally lost the locker room.

His teams never seemed ready to start a season or a game.

I don’t think Frank lost the locker room. 
 

I think Frank lost the fan base. 

[coltsva]

Did Frank lose the locker room? I have no idea.
Did Frank lose the fan base? Absolutely.
 

The problem for Frank was he lost the one person that he could not afford to lose, the owner. 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

I will always stand by Ballard was the issue and not Reich. 

[jemack]

With the was the team was performing under his friend Frank, the Philly game would have been unwatchable.

[GoColts8818]

13 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

I will always stand by Ballard was the issue and not Reich. 

Yeah but if you fire the GM you are getting a new coach and if you don’t get one right away you are getting one shortly there after.  New GMs want their own guys.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

5 minutes ago, jemack said:

With the was the team was performing under his friend Frank, the Philly game would have been unwatchable.

Pretty sure Reich would of scored 16 points. The offense was still unwatchable yesterday.

[jemack]

I respectfully disagree. 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

10 minutes ago, jemack said:

I respectfully disagree. 

Our season average is 15.7 and we scored 16

[jemack]

16 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Our season average is 15.7 and we scored 16

You go by avg scoring, fine. I go by opponent's strengths.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Just now, jemack said:

You go by avg scoring, fine. I go by opponent's strengths.

There probably is some truth to that because eagles have a great defense. But I can’t ignore all the short fields we had and not being able to punch it in at the end to put them away. That goes beyond the eagles great defense.

[LJpalmbeacher2]

Well, sirianni isn't a colt fan, he's a friend of frank......obviously if he was a life long fan of the horse shoe he wouldn't make foolish statements like he did and care more about us losing consistently with Reich and not his buddy who hired him.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Just now, LJpalmbeacher2 said:

Well, sirianni isn't a colt fan, he's a friend of frank......obviously if he was a life long fan of the horse shoe he wouldn't make foolish statements like he did and care more about us losing consistently with Reich and not his buddy who hired him.

To me he should of just took the win and been quiet. His actions were a guy trying to run it in a little to much. His smirks during his presser were just so off putting to me. 

[jemack]

7 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

There probably is some truth to that because eagles have a great defense. But I can’t ignore all the short fields we had and not being able to punch it in at the end to put them away. That goes beyond the eagles great defense.

I get your point. But would we even have  short field opportunities with Frank at the helm? It's hard to say. They just seem to be playing at better level with Jeff than with Frank.

[jvan1973]

1 hour ago, Moosejawcolt said:

Well if Saturday loses out and doesn't win another game then  maybe Sireani is right and coaching wasn't the issue. Also, if Frank lost the locker room was it do to his coaching or the fact that they don't have the talent and that is on the players and the GM. U know the funny thing is this. This team could easily be 9 and 2. They have just craped the bed at crunch time. The turnovers have killed them and the Oline play.

Crapping the bed would be a coaching issue and not a talent issue.  Thanks for pointing that out.   I noticed you didn't have a single post last week after a win.   

[jvan1973]

47 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Pretty sure Reich would of scored 16 points. The offense was still unwatchable yesterday.

How many did they score against the Pats?

[coming on strong]

1 hour ago, colts89 said:

Sirriani's friend should have done better at his job.

i still think frank should of had the chance to dig out of this hole .  he did it before multiple times and the team fought hard to get back into the mix.   for me i think frank is not a elite coach but a somewhere between average to slightly above average but i still dont like firing coaches mid season .  frank should of been fired if the team failed to get hot but it is a bad look .  we get branded toxic and top tier coaches and gms will steer clear of us now that every thinks irsay is meddling and hand picking his friends .

[coming on strong]

1 minute ago, jvan1973 said:

How many did they score against the Pats?

frank had no taylor and a 6th round pick at QB  .  patriots defense is elite and bill is the best defensive coach in football . i watched him hold luck to 7 points and break him .   you really think jeff with no taylor and no ryan with this terrible offensive line is gonna do something ?      to me its a talent issue we have average QB play young wrs  and a  terrible offensive line when frank had solid QB play and a line he went 11-5

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

8 minutes ago, jemack said:

I get your point. But would we even have  short field opportunities with Frank at the helm? It's hard to say. They just seem to be playing at better level with Jeff than with Frank.

You would be correct if yesterday was a out liar. Unfortuantly it was the same thing we have seen all season.  We will see if the offense improves as we finish the season.  That could be how Saturday keeps his job. But when you have nothing to play for it’s kind of hard to motivate guys. I don’t think 2 games is enough time to evaluate whether Saturday and parks can get this offense playing better. It will take the last few games. There is a clear lack of talent so getting any improvement is going to be difficult. That’s why it’s going to be difficult to evaluate Saturday. 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

3 minutes ago, coming on strong said:

frank had no taylor and a 6th round pick at QB  .  patriots defense is elite and bill is the best defensive coach in football . i watched him hold luck to 7 points and break him .   you really think jeff with no taylor and no ryan with this terrible offensive line is gonna do something ?      to me its a talent issue we have average QB play young wrs  and a  terrible offensive line when frank had solid QB play and a line he went 11-5

We might of won that pats game with Ryan. We might of win WA too. That’s the difference in 4-6-1 and 6-4-1 and having a chance at the playoffs.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

6 minutes ago, coming on strong said:

frank had no taylor and a 6th round pick at QB  .  patriots defense is elite and bill is the best defensive coach in football . i watched him hold luck to 7 points and break him .   you really think jeff with no taylor and no ryan with this terrible offensive line is gonna do something ?      to me its a talent issue we have average QB play young wrs  and a  terrible offensive line when frank had solid QB play and a line he went 11-5

I also think the young WR is not really correct. Pittman is in his third year. Parris yes hasn’t played much but he is on year 4. These guys should be going into  their prime. Pittman and Parris are 25. 

[crazycolt1]

Frank should have been fired at the end of last season after that total collapse. 

I have no problem with what Sirriani said. He was speaking like a friend, not a fan or an owner.  

[AKB]

Just now, crazycolt1 said:

Frank should have been fired at the end of last season after that total collapse. 

I have no problem with what Sirriani said. He was speaking like a friend, not a fan or an owner.  

thats how im taking it. hes standing up for his buddy. 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

12 minutes ago, coming on strong said:

i still think frank should of had the chance to dig out of this hole .  he did it before multiple times and the team fought hard to get back into the mix.   for me i think frank is not a elite coach but a somewhere between average to slightly above average but i still dont like firing coaches mid season .  frank should of been fired if the team failed to get hot but it is a bad look .  we get branded toxic and top tier coaches and gms will steer clear of us now that every thinks irsay is meddling and hand picking his friends .

Irsay admitted Reich wouldn’t of been fired if Saturday hadn’t agreed to this. I have no beef with Saturday. He is doing the best he can but it is a very bad look. Then Irsay let’s him have Ryan back? That sounds like trying to get Reich fired.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

20 minutes ago, jemack said:

I get your point. But would we even have  short field opportunities with Frank at the helm? It's hard to say. They just seem to be playing at better level with Jeff than with Frank.

Yes because one was a turnover. I would have to go back and look at the circumstances of the others. They also had it goal to go to extend it back to ten. Colts failed.