Colts QB Watch Party

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5 minutes ago, CR91 said:

I know this is a highlight tape, but Ryan doesn't look washed to me. We could win with Matt Ryan. 

 

 

He had nobody to throw to except pitts and still had 4K yards. Our defense will also be much better then theirs. This could be Ryan’s chance like it was for Stafford.

[John Waylon]

I do believe that Seattle will outbid us easily in any war for Mayfield. 

[DougDew]

With all of the noise around QBs, not much has happened.  Which teams need QBs now, as of late 3/17? 

 

Would ATL and CLE truly need a QB after Hurricane DW entered and left their spheres?  ATL and NO seem to be the landing spots, but that would only impact Ryan or Winston (who would probably go back to NO)

 

 

DC Wentz

LVR secured Carr.

MIN secured Cousins.

PIT got Trubisky.

 

Are there any teams actually vacant at QB besides us?

[IinD]

11 minutes ago, CR91 said:

I know this is a highlight tape, but Ryan doesn't look washed to me. We could win with Matt Ryan. 

 

 

Yeah I can't lie and say I watched much Matty this year, but he looks far from washed. Peyton looked washed towards the end. Ryan looks nothing like that.

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2 minutes ago, DougDew said:

With all of the noise around QBs, not much has happened.  Which teams need QBs now, as of late 3/17? 

 

Does ATL and CLE truly need a QB after Hurricane DW entered and left their spheres?  ATL and NO seem to be the landing spots, but that would only impact Ryan or Winston (who would probably go back to NO)

 

 

DC Wentz

LVR secured Carr.

MIN secured Cousins.

PIT got Trubisky.

 

Are there any teams actually void of a QB besides us?

It’s holding even a guy like Winston up. He has a offer from Saints but can’t go back until Watson decides. Saints will sign Winston back if they don’t get Watson.

 

Carolina and Seahawks will be looking for QB. Looks like Cleveland now too. 

[richard pallo]

1 hour ago, TaylorTheStudMuffin said:

 

If I’m the Falcons right now I would seriously consider trading Ryan to the Colts asap and show Watson they are serious and they created the space they need to bring him to the team.  As with Baker they have also made the decision to move to a new quarterback.  Do it now and head off any potential drama with Ryan.  He’s already on board by delaying his bonus date so finish it up and trade him now. Show Watson you want him.  It could make him decide now rather than later.

[CR91]

If the colts trade for Matt Ryan, here's hoping we either pick up Austin Hooper or include Hurst in the trade to help improve TE and give a familiar target. He can even use Hines like he did Patterson last year.

[#12.]

People say Ryan is old.  I would bet on him playing more games over the next 2-3 years than Garoppolo or Mayfield.

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2 minutes ago, richard pallo said:

If I’m the Falcons right now I would seriously consider trading Ryan to the Colts asap and show Watson they are serious and they created the space they need to bring him to the team.  As with Baker they have also made the decision to move to a new quarterback.  Do it now and head off any potential drama with Ryan.  He’s already on board by delaying his bonus date so finish it up and trade him now. Show Watson you want him.  It could make him decide now rather than later.

Exactly. Rumor was earlier that this might of caused friction with Ryan and he might be out no matter what. This would make sense.

[DougDew]

11 minutes ago, TaylorTheStudMuffin said:

It’s holding even a guy like Winston up. He has a offer from Saints but can’t go back until Watson decides. Saints will sign Winston back if they don’t get Watson.

 

Carolina and Seahawks will be looking for QB. Looks like Cleveland now too. 

But DW is only going to directly impact one QB, either Ryan or Winston.   If a team is not interested in either, they can move along with the guys they want.   

 

I don't see why CLE and IND couldn't trade for Mayfield tomorrow, if either wants to trade.

 

I'm just not sure about this idea that DW is holding it all up.  I think teams might just not want to make moves right now for other reasons.

[RollerColt]

I think I’d prefer Ryan over all of the other options actually… Still got some years left, and he’d be paired with our defense. Atlanta’s mess of a defense has often been their downfall. 

[danlhart87]

What do yall honestly think Ryan would cost?

[Boss7894]

Just now, danlhart87 said:

What do yall honestly think Ryan would cost?

Reality bites

[Four2itus]

1 minute ago, danlhart87 said:

What do yall honestly think Ryan would cost?

2nd this year and a first next year

[Boss7894]

Any precedents?

[tweezy32]

3 minutes ago, Four2itus said:

2nd this year and a first next year

Lmao not even close

[RollerColt]

3 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

What do yall honestly think Ryan would cost?

It would certainly hurt. Sigh… that’s kind of the problem. But then again, he’d give us the best chance to compete right now for at least the next 2 years.

[CR91]

3 minutes ago, Four2itus said:

2nd this year and a first next year

 

That's insane for a 37 year old QB. I'd only give up one of our third round picks

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5 minutes ago, DougDew said:

But DW is only going to directly impact one QB, either Ryan or Winston.   If a team is not interested in either, they can move along with the guys they want.   

 

I don't see why CLE and IND couldn't trade for Mayfield tomorrow, if either wants to trade.

 

I'm just not sure about this idea that DW is holding it all up.  I think teams might just not want to make moves right now for other reasons.

Yeah that’s why I said now panthers can go after Jimmy or Mariota now. They could be off the table by the time Watson decided. Unless they also want to wait because they think colts are a better place. But Ryan could be a option for NO too. But yea Carolina could move onto their next option now. Cleveland could trade Baker now. Except maybe NO would take Baker or Ryan . See how it all comes down to Watson. I get dizzy just thinking about it.

[Four2itus]

Just now, CR91 said:

 

That's insane for a 37 year old QB. I'd only give up one of our third round picks

The question was not what I would give. 

[danlhart87]

6 minutes ago, Four2itus said:

2nd this year and a first next year

[Derakynn]

Absolutely no way they get that much for Ryan with that cap bomb of a contract. Completely tanks any return you’d get for him IMO. I’d give like a 5th maybe. 

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Just saw a post that said league sources said Seahawks and browns is where Ryan would go if Baker goss to ATl. This is weird. Could mean Baker to colts.

[GoColts8818]

11 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

What do yall honestly think Ryan would cost?

He’s not as old as Favre but when Favre was traded he cost the Jets a fourth that could turn into a third.

[CR91]

2 minutes ago, TaylorTheStudMuffin said:

Just saw a post that said league sources said Seahawks and browns is where Ryan would go if Baker goss to ATl. This is weird

 

Ryan has played in a dome his entire career. I can't see why he wanna play outdoors at this point in his career.

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So Rashad said he has heard nothing about colts wanting Baker. Which could mean they are. Kevin Bowen has said colts have actually ignored his questions when something is in the works.

[danlhart87]

Just now, TaylorTheStudMuffin said:

So Rashad said he has heard nothing about colts wanting Baker. Which could mean they are. Kevin Bowen has said colts have actually ignored his questions when something is in the works.

Ballard is always super private 

[JediXMan]

5 minutes ago, CR91 said:

 

Ryan has played in a dome his entire career. I can't see why he wanna play outdoors at this point in his career.

Yeah that whole division is outdoors would be a strange fit.

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5 minutes ago, CR91 said:

 

Ryan has played in a dome his entire career. I can't see why he wanna play outdoors at this point in his career.

Ir came from the NFI rumors Twitter. Just said sources. I don’t believe that account that much unless they say who the source is.

[RollerColt]

6 minutes ago, CR91 said:

 

Ryan has played in a dome his entire career. I can't see why he wanna play outdoors at this point in his career.

Or to play with a team that basically is rebuilding.

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Rashad now says that when he asked two different people about Baker they said no.  So either a smokescreen or it’s true.

[Captain_Colts1317]

3 minutes ago, TaylorTheStudMuffin said:

Ir came from the NFI rumors Twitter. Just said sources. I don’t believe that account that much unless they say who the source is.

I think they just tweet random crap to get views. If you tweet enough scenarios eventually you’ll get one right. 

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1 minute ago, Captain_Colts1317 said:

I think they just tweet random crap to get views. If you tweet enough scenarios eventually you’ll get one right. 

Sometimes they will put the media person that said it. Sometimes they post predictions as if they are rumors. They are kind of all over the place.

[Four2itus]

8 minutes ago, TaylorTheStudMuffin said:

So either a smokescreen or it’s true

Extremely profound. 

[danlhart87]

Here's what I don't understand 

 

Browns have officially been ruled out of the Watson trade so that leaves the Colts to go after Mayfield if they actually want him.

 

I'm thinking since they will most likely wait until Watson decision that they might not be that interested in Baker.

 

If Watson goes to Falcons 

 

Mayfield - Seahawks 

Winston - Saints

Ryan - Colts

 

If Watson goes to Saints

 

Mayfield - Seahawks 

Ryan - Falcons 

Winston - Colts 

 

I expect Seahawks to offer more for Baker 

 

[GoColts8818]

1 hour ago, IinD said:

I understand that logic 100%, but I feel like that's only happening if bossman (Jim) signs off on that. It's just really hard to see that because of $$$. 

 

Indy fans won't show up to the stadium for a 3-14 type team. Less money for Jim in 2022.

 

We're definitely in limbo though I agree until we figure this thing out. Short term fixes until then.

People who know Irsay the best say he wants Ballard to spend more money.  Money is not the issue some fans want it to be.

[Stephen]

27 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

People who know Irsay the best say he wants Ballard to spend more money.  Money is not the issue some fans want it to be.

The problem with Ryan is his contract is so high it eat up our cap space and not allow us to sign any other free agents

[IinD]

26 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

People who know Irsay the best say he wants Ballard to spend more money.  Money is not the issue some fans want it to be.

I was actually talking stadium gameday money. Nobody will be showing up buying things. Unless I'm wrong and they don't make money on things like drinks, food, parking, merch?? 

 

I definitely don't think Jim is cheap. I was just saying Ballard would need his blessing if we go the rookie route and have a losing season because Jim would be taking the biggest hit, his wallet.

 

 

[chickenMan]

At this point I just wish Deshaun McGrabbyHands would pick his damn team so the rest of us teams can find our QBs lol

[CR91]

12 minutes ago, Stephen said:

The problem with Ryan is his contract is so high it eat up our cap space and not allow us to sign any other free agents

 

I actually read once the restructure is done and the Falcons pay the roster bonus, the cap hit would 23 mil this year and 28 mil next year. Very doable