Freeney

[CjMcGirt23]

Freeney has signed with the CAA as the Colts try to restructure his contract according to NFL. com

http://blogs.nfl.com/2012/03/12/freeney-signs-with-caa-as-colts-try-to-restructure-deal/?module=HP11_headline_stack

[Gavin]

whats CCA, I HATE initals

[Slick_Rick]

whats CCA, I HATE initals

Creative Artist Agency

[jemack]

whats CCA, I HATE initals

Creative Artist Agency. I kid you not

[Cynjin]

Creative Artist Agency. I kid you not

Well, Freeney's spin move was creative.

[Moncrief]

Is this good or bad

[MTC]

Alrighty.

[braveheartcolt]

Well, Freeney's spin move was creative.

It used to be the Artist Formely Known as Creative Agency.....

[21isSuperman]

It's just an agency group (not sure what happened to Freeney's last agent). They represent people like George Clooney, Brad Pitt, Oprah, Lebron, and DWade among many and they are considered one of the top talent agencies in the world...all according to their Wiki

[deedub75]

It's just an agency group (not sure what happened to Freeney's last agent). They represent people like George Clooney, Brad Pitt, Oprah, Lebron, and DWade among many and they are considered one of the top talent agencies in the world...all according to their Wiki

I think Freeney's last agent died last year and he never hired another one.

[Flash7]

Is this good or bad

It could mean that Freeney is expecting to be traded, otherwise he may not need an agent. It's an indication that he's on the move.

[bavanlan]

Is this good or bad

Depends.

It means that he's not expecting to be playing next year under his current contract. The unanswered question is whether that's here or elsewhere.

[CS Colts Fan]

correct ... Freeney's agent passed away last year.. I think it was cancer... CAA has players agents .. including Condon... this could be good news for us.. (hopefully his agent is NOT Thomas Condon ) he may want to reconstruct his contract to a less cap hit and it extend it a few years.. Pagano wants to keep him.. he said he wants to stay?? guess his actions will determine his true intentions..

[Jules]

Progress.

[oldunclemark]

Freeney has signed with the CAA as the Colts try to restructure his contract according to NFL. com

http://blogs.nfl.com..._headline_stack

I want him to restructure the contact and stay with us....as long as Mathis is here

He can play DE in a 3-4...

Our offense is Rice Krispies right now but our defense, with Freeney and Mathis, is not.

WE're set at LB and we have the same 2 corners (for better or worse) that we had last year.

Maybe we signed Mathis because we intended to keep Freeney..?

[CS Colts Fan]

we can only hope... I would love to keep him and have him have one of his best years...

[CS Colts Fan]

he says he doesn't want to stand up, but once he sees how much fun/ success Mathis is having he won't be able to resist to join..

[oldunclemark]

he says he doesn't want to stand up, but once he sees how much fun/ success Mathis is having he won't be able to resist to join..

I'm confused..Can someone explain when Freeney, at 6-1, 270 pounds, cant play end in a 3-4

I get why Mathis (245 lbs) cant but why not Freeney

[Captain Americolt]

In order to trade Freeney the Colts woll have to restructure his monster cap hit.

Either way, something is going on I suppose.

[Jules]

I'm confused..Can someone explain when Freeney, at 6-1, 270 pounds, cant play end in a 3-4

I get why Mathis (245 lbs) cant but why not Freeney

All I have heard is that Freeney probably doesn't want to play in a 3-4.

[Captain Americolt]

268 (his listed weight) is not that big at all for a 3-4 DE. Plus he doesnt even play the run that well. Hes pass rusher all the way.

[ColtJ82]

DEs in the 3-4 are 290-300 and are expected to play the run. Definitely not Freeney's primary skill set.

[CS Colts Fan]

but many keep forgetting that Pagano wants to do a hybrid 4-3 & 3-4... my understanding is that Pagano wants to use him and Mathis as pass rushers.. I don't understand why he doesn't want to stay and do what he has been doing and with a new trist.. he may like it? unless he wants tp leave because of the whole change of the team

[gacker65]

but many keep forgetting that Pagano wants to do a hybrid 4-3 & 3-4... my understanding is that Pagano wants to use him and Mathis as pass rushers.. I don't understand why he doesn't want to stay and do what he has been doing and with a new trist.. he may like it? unless he wants tp leave because of the whole change of the team

You may have hit the nail on the head with the last thing you said.

[GoColts8818]

Well, Freeney's spin move was creative.

same agency that handles Manning and many other big name NFL players. Same agency doesn't mean same agent though.

[CS Colts Fan]

yea I know that's what concerns me... he represents Drew Breeze too and you see where that's going

[LJpalmbeacher2]

I really hope he stays. I think Freeney & Mathis both blitzing as OLB'ers will be fun to watch.

[CS Colts Fan]

could be some of the best .. we can hope... moving to the hybrid may actually allow him to play longer

[Peyton and Eli fan]

He needs an agent no matter what happens, so I don't think it means anything except that he expects a change. Whether that's a new contract, a trade, or a release, he knows it's not going to stay as is.

[DG1]

All I have heard is that Freeney probably doesn't want to play in a 3-4.

I keep hearing that as well...

[Colt-in-Jax]

So what do the Colts do if they can restructure? Do they keep him or trade him to a 4-3 team that would make him happy? If they trade him it will be on draft day, but for what? Would we get a #2 pick? More likely a 3 or 4th rounder.

[dgambill]

I'm confused..Can someone explain when Freeney, at 6-1, 270 pounds, cant play end in a 3-4

I get why Mathis (245 lbs) cant but why not Freeney

Basically there is no DE in a 3-4 defense. There is 2 DTs and one NT. Those players typically are HUGE players that are there to take on two lineman. They typically don't make the plays. They take on blockers so the LB make the sacks and the plays. Those LB typically stand up...have to be very versatile. Mathis has the speed and strength and agility to do this...Freeney does not...and Freeney is not exactly a typical DT. He is small and I doubt he is going to be ok with taking on two blockers so others can make plays. I don't know about the hybrid but I if we are able to get value from Freeney being traded I would be all for it. If not he is here one more year. 4-3 defense the lineman play the gaps....3-4 they play over top the other guy. Freeney really doesn't fit the new defense very well.

[Malakai432]

It's just an agency group (not sure what happened to Freeney's last agent). They represent people like George Clooney, Brad Pitt, Oprah, Lebron, and DWade among many and they are considered one of the top talent agencies in the world...all according to their Wiki

May Freeney's soul rest in peace.

RIP Dwight we loved ya!

I kid, I kid

[mvbighead]

Mathis has the speed and strength and agility to do this...Freeney does not...and Freeney is not exactly a typical DT. He is small and I doubt he is going to be ok with taking on two blockers so others can make plays. I don't know about the hybrid but I if we are able to get value from Freeney being traded I would be all for it. If not he is here one more year. 4-3 defense the lineman play the gaps....3-4 they play over top the other guy. Freeney really doesn't fit the new defense very well.

You lost me here... Freeney is not a DT. He ran a sub 4.5 in the combine, and likely can still run a sub 4.6. He had a 37" leap. His measurables were off the charts.

Freeney is in the mold of a Demarcus Ware. The key different is that he is 3 inches shorter.

As far as whether he can stop the run... he's done it, it's simply never been his primary objective. He's been a pass rusher first and foremost.

I would like to think he can fit this scheme. He'd be pass rushing mostly, and would be called on to do other things from time to time. In any case, Freeney is every bit the athlete the Mathis is, and then some.

FYI - Only 40 time I can find for Mathis is a 4.67 (http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=59516&draftyear=2003&genpos=OLB)

So no, Mathis is not faster than Freeney.

[ColtsUrUs]

You lost me here... Freeney is not a DT. He ran a sub 4.5 in the combine, and likely can still run a sub 4.6. He had a 37" leap. His measurables were off the charts.

Freeney is in the mold of a Demarcus Ware. The key different is that he is 3 inches shorter.

As far as whether he can stop the run... he's done it, it's simply never been his primary objective. He's been a pass rusher first and foremost.

I would like to think he can fit this scheme. He'd be pass rushing mostly, and would be called on to do other things from time to time. In any case, Freeney is every bit the athlete the Mathis is, and then some.

FYI - Only 40 time I can find for Mathis is a 4.67 (http://www.nfldrafts...2003&genpos=OLB)

So no, Mathis is not faster than Freeney.

But 18 million is a heck of a lot of money to pay someone for one year. :barf:

[bavanlan]

But 18 million is a heck of a lot of money to pay someone for one year. :barf:

He's already been paid $5M for this year, we're only paying him $14M.

(not sure if that changes your position)

[ColtsUrUs]

He's already been paid $5M for this year, we're only paying him $14M.

(not sure if that changes your position)

You don't see nothing wrong with paying a player $14 mil for one year and he can leave after that.

[bavanlan]

You don't see nothing wrong with paying a player $14 mil for one year and he can leave after that.

Now you're putting words in my mouth.

[HungarianColtsFan]

According to John Clayton and La Canfora Freeney won't be traded nor released. He is going to stay a Colt for his final year.

[Phil J]

According to John Clayton and La Canfora Freeney won't be traded nor released. He is going to stay a Colt for his final year.

pretty sure they said he wouldn't be traded. Didn't say anything about not being released. you have a quote?