Nesjan3 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 I dont have a source just seen it while watching NFL Live. I always respect the opinion of former general managers like Casserly and Polian. Just seen on NFL live Polian say'd that Barkley is game changer, he could make any offense in the league better. He say's as a GM you can't pass on players like him, he doesn't think he gets past the Giants but if he does the Colts absolutely should be drafting him because the whole league knows that TY is our only playmaker! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Nesjan3 said: I dont have a source just seen it while watching NFL Live. I always respect the opinion of former general managers like Casserly and Polian. Just seen on NFL live Polian say'd that Barkley is game changer, he could make any offense in the league better. He say's as a GM you can't pass on players like him, he doesn't think he gets past the Giants but if he does the Colts absolutely should be drafting him because the whole league knows that TY is our only playmaker! Doesn’t change anything for me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finball Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Polian was a great GM. That said, Polian says a lot of things these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SolidGold Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, Nesjan3 said: I dont have a source just seen it while watching NFL Live. I always respect the opinion of former general managers like Casserly and Polian. Just seen on NFL live Polian say'd that Barkley is game changer, he could make any offense in the league better. He say's as a GM you can't pass on players like him, he doesn't think he gets past the Giants but if he does the Colts absolutely should be drafting him because the whole league knows that TY is our only playmaker! He was having a senior citizen moment. He meant Quenton Nelson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nesjan3 Posted March 1, 2018 Author Share Posted March 1, 2018 Giants will take him and we will receive multiple offers from a team looking for a QB i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 As our old PA announcer used to say -Edgerrin James on the carry for 5, James. Now we can say Saquon Barkley for 5, Barkley! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aluckiswolverine Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Polian also says 6 ft 3 in Lamar Jackson is to short to play QB in the NFL. The game has evolved since Polian he’s just another talking head to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash7 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 I would love to have Barkley on the Colts, but our defense ranked #31 last year. They were bad all across the board, and especially not effective at rushing the passer. Let's focus on making the Colts a well-balanced team. Let's stay the course and continue to add to the defense. If we make improvements on offense, we should definitely focus on the OL. The offensive skill positions can be advanced through FA or later rounds in the draft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boiler_Colt Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Polian also said Trent Richardson was can't miss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boo2202 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 8 minutes ago, Flash7 said: I would love to have Barkley on the Colts, but our defense ranked #31 last year. They were bad all across the board, and especially not effective at rushing the passer. Let's focus on making the Colts a well-balanced team. Let's stay the course and continue to add to the defense. If we make improvements on offense, we should definitely focus on the OL. The offensive skill positions can be advanced through FA or later rounds in the draft. Our offensive rankings points: 30th total yards: 31st pass yards: 30th rush yards: 22nd sack allowed: 29th These are just a few. I hope we don't go all defense in the draft. The offense lacks playmakers outside of ty. Our line is a sight for sore eyes also. Getting luck back is great but we need to protect him and also surround him with better talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21isSuperman Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2012/04/trent_richardson_a_sure_thing.html Not to say Barkley is going to be a bust or anything, but just because Polian said something, doesn't mean it's true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 I'm not at all surprised to hear this.... I've heard Polian say many times, the RB makes the O-line, the O-line doesn't make the RB. I'll just say that I respectfully disagree, and I thnk it's clear that many NFL teams disagree as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 1 minute ago, 21isSuperman said: http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2012/04/trent_richardson_a_sure_thing.html Not to say Barkley is going to be a bust or anything, but just because Polian said something, doesn't mean it's true Polian wasn't alone on this one. Lots of people thought Trent was the real deal coming out of college. Turns out he wasn't mature enough for the NFL. Was in over his head and didn't know how to be a professional. As he result, he had a terrible and short career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krunk Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 I don't think it's surprising to hear the man that drafted Edgerrin James say to draft Saquon Barkley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedBlu8792 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 10 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said: I'm not at all surprised to hear this.... I've heard Polian say many times, the RB makes the O-line, the O-line doesn't make the RB. I'll just say that I respectfully disagree, and I thnk it's clear that many NFL teams disagree as well. That's just not true. I wasn't much of a Polian fan anyways, but does he not remember the line that was blocking for Edgerrin? Hell, I'd almost wager that's why he let Edgerrin walk after 05' and chose to keep Reggie. Sure enough, Addai and Rhodes had no issues with carrying the load because they had the OL to make it happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krunk Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Again I want Bradley Chubb, but if we draft Barkley I won't be angry in the least bit. Hell of a football player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reboot Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 16 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said: I'm not at all surprised to hear this.... I've heard Polian say many times, the RB makes the O-line, the O-line doesn't make the RB. I'll just say that I respectfully disagree, and I thnk it's clear that many NFL teams disagree as well. Polian spent five first round picks on RBs in his career - so he kinda has to say the RB makes the line. Edge, Addai, Brown with the Colts, Biakabutuka with the Panthers, and Ronnie Harmon with the Bills. For those who care, Thurman Thomas slipped into the second round after an injury, or it really could have been 6. I'd say Bill liked his RBs... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColts00 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Says the former GM that couldn't put a defense on the field to complement Manning & Co. I blame Polian for the Colts only winning 1 SB while Manning was here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Superman Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Barkley will be gone by 3. We're stuck with ChubbaMania! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard pallo Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 NFL teams agree with Polian. You don't pass on game changers. RB's have been drafted very high in the last few years. This year will be no exception. It's a strong class and if you need a RB you would be foolish to try and wait until the 3rd. or 4th. rd. We made that mistake last year. The potential difference makers will all be gone in the first two RDs. It's a copy cat league. And everyone has seen how those backs drafted early in recent years have turned out to be great picks. I wouldn't be surprised if we see a run on RB's in the 1st. RD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 33 minutes ago, BleedBlu8792 said: That's just not true. I wasn't much of a Polian fan anyways, but does he not remember the line that was blocking for Edgerrin? Hell, I'd almost wager that's why he let Edgerrin walk after 05' and chose to keep Reggie. Sure enough, Addai and Rhodes had no issues with carrying the load because they had the OL to make it happen. I don't believe it either.... But the topic has come up the last three years as Gurley, Elliott, Fournette and even McCaffrey have gone top-10. And each year I've personally heard Polian say the same thing... the RB makes the line, the line does not make the RB. I respectfully disagree with him, but Polian is in the HoF and I'm (for some strange reason) not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJpalmbeacher2 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 22 minutes ago, GoColts00 said: Says the former GM that couldn't put a defense on the field to complement Manning & Co. I blame Polian for the Colts only winning 1 SB while Manning was here. I blame all the choke jobs the Offense did in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard pallo Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 48 minutes ago, 21isSuperman said: http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2012/04/trent_richardson_a_sure_thing.html Not to say Barkley is going to be a bust or anything, but just because Polian said something, doesn't mean it's true No it doesn't. But I would trust his opinion and valuation more than any poster on this forum. Hands down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJpalmbeacher2 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said: I don't believe it either.... But the topic has come up the last three years as Gurley, Elliott, Fournette and even McCaffrey have gone top-10. And each year I've personally heard Polian say the same thing... the RB makes the line, the line does not make the RB. I respectfully disagree with him, but Polian is in the HoF and I'm (for some strange reason) not. If this Forum had a HOF you at the very least be nominated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Not that anyone cares, but for the record, while I still strongly oppose the idea of drafting Barkley (I'd like to get our next RB at the top of the 4th R) I've soften my opposition to drafting Barkley. I've said I'll support the pick because I trust Ballard.... But, I'd add this..... I did not object to the Rams taking Gurley at 10, or the Cowboys taking Zeke at 4, or Fournette going 4 to the Jags, or McCaffrey 8 to the Panthers.... But the difference with Barkley is this... None of those players, those running backs, were considered the best overall player in their respective draft. Barkley is. This was supposed to be the Year of the QB. The Best QB Class since '83. And NONE OF THEM are ranked as high as Barkley. Barkley is the consensus number one player in this draft. So, if he's there at 3, and Ballard decides to take him, I'll support the pick. I think complaining about taking the consenses best player in the draft 3rd overall is a bit of a Fool's Errand. A waste of time. It would NOT be my choice. But I'll support it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 2 minutes ago, LJpalmbeacher2 said: If this Forum had a HOF you at the very least be nominated. You're incredibly kind to say that.... but I believe I can think of roughly a half-dozen posters who just threw-up in their mouth just reading your post! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Peytonator Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Polian has a fetish for using first round draft picks on offensive skill position players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColts00 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 1 hour ago, LJpalmbeacher2 said: I blame all the choke jobs the Offense did in the playoffs. Great defenses will stymie a great offense. We never had a great defense to keep great offenses from scoring against us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Superman Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Well seeing his draft history is anyone surprised? He went all in on offense and no defense and we all saw how that turned out. A lot of one and done's in the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Superman Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Colts had virtually an unstoppable offense in 2004 until they traveled to Foxborough. Our defense was basically Dwight Freeney. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougDew Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 At the time, Polian thought the Browns should draft Trent Richardson #3, and they did. Just sayin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedBlu8792 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 12 minutes ago, DougDew said: At the time, Polian thought the Browns should draft Trent Richardson #3, and they did. Just sayin Key words... the Browns Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nburgmei Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 I won't be upset if we draft Barkley...however, I think doubling up on Chubbs is the best strategy. Chubb for the offense...Chubb for the defense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndyScribe Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 I wouldn't be upset if we drafted Barkley, but I'd prefer Chubb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jameszeigler834 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 2 hours ago, Boiler_Colt said: Polian also said Trent Richardson was can't miss This guy is a lot better than T-Rich Barkley isn't just a big back he is a fast power back and there is no comparison with him and Richardson cause Richardson was slow as crap and didn't have the power this guy does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Pennock Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 1 hour ago, LJpalmbeacher2 said: I blame all the choke jobs the Offense did in the playoffs. To be fair.....Vandershank choked more than Manning and the offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougDew Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 18 minutes ago, jameszeigler834 said: This guy is a lot better than T-Rich Barkley isn't just a big back he is a fast power back and there is no comparison with him and Richardson cause Richardson was slow as crap and didn't have the power this guy does. TRich's problem was that he didn't care about working to become a professional. I think he ran a very good 40 at the combine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nesjan3 Posted March 2, 2018 Author Share Posted March 2, 2018 I think all the references to Polian saying T-Rich was a stud is a bit unfair. Most people thought T-Rich was going to be good, its a clear reminder that nobody knows exactly how these players are going to turn out. That being said i don't think it's a secret that there is no comparison at all between T-Rich and Barkley. Fournette, Elliot and Gurley were all can't miss top tier running backs, but Barkley could be the best of the group, possibly the best since AP. I personally think if he drops to 3 we get lucky and would be stupid to pass on the pick, but i think the most likely scenario is either the Giants take him, or someone trades in to the top 2 for him. Leaving the Colts in a trade back situation to grab extra picks and hopefully Chubb or Nelson with a later pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LJpalmbeacher2 Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 23 minutes ago, Scott Pennock said: To be fair.....Vandershank choked more than Manning and the offense. Well there were like 20 One & Dones. I don't think we cam blame them all on vanderjagt. But that kick vs steelers was the worst fg kick I ever seen. It was like a 'funny ball' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coltsman1788 Posted March 2, 2018 Share Posted March 2, 2018 3 hours ago, NewColtsFan said: Polian wasn't alone on this one. Lots of people thought Trent was the real deal coming out of college. Turns out he wasn't mature enough for the NFL. Was in over his head and didn't know how to be a professional. As he result, he had a terrible and short career. I'll be honest and admit that when the Trent Richardson deal went down I was one happy son of a gun at the time. I actually wanted him for awhile and when we got him I thought the Colts had finally found their star RB for Luck. Man...was I mistaken. Such a disappointment how that went for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now