Mister P Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 You're so sweet. Thank you! What does the "V" stand for again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Irrelevant Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 17 minutes ago, csmopar said: Worst part: this probably saves chuck pagano and his staff their jobs They are gone. Ballard is not impressed. Don't worry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 To call this a disappointment would qualify as the understatement of the year. Last week, before this news, I stated that I didn't think Luck would be back until the Bye Week, that's week 11. Then, Monday, on the ESPN pre-game show, former Colts back-up Matt Hasselbeck said he had seen Luck throw in practice and in his words, "Luck didn't look like Luck." And that he thought Luck was a long way off from being back. And now, today, this news. I think the odds of seeing Luck this season are offically way less than 50/50. I would not expect him until off season workouts next April. Remember, Luck is getting shutdown based on his arm not reacting to very minimal practice. Easy throws. He's not close to throwing game-type of passes. He's not throwing 100 balls a day. He's being eased back into the offense. That he's not reacting well to it is a big red flag. Hugely disappointing. What are we going to win with Brissett? A total of 4-5 games? Maybe. But there's now tape of him not handling either Seattle's defense or Tennessee's. Other teams will see that. Jacoby is going to have to learn on the job. There are going to be more disappointing losses ahead......... 2017 is not what we all were hoping for...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Irrelevant Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 11 minutes ago, RockThatBlue said: Stephen Holder makes it sound like its soreness on twitter. He has no idea. He is just repeating what Ballard said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CamMo Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Yeaaahhhh, I don’t care if this season is lost, but I do care about whether I see #12 throw the ball. I like watching him play - Super Bowl or no Super Bowl. Bummer it doesn’t sound like he’ll be 100% by the end of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 1 minute ago, NewColtsFan said: To call this a disappointment would qualify as the understatement of the year. Last week, before this news, I stated that I didn't think Luck would be back until the Bye Week, that's week 11. Then, Monday, on the ESPN pre-game show, former Colts back-up Matt Hasselbeck said he had seen Luck throw in practice and in his words, "Luck didn't look like Luck." And that he thought Luck was a long way off from being back. And now, today, this news. I think the odds of seeing Luck this season are offically way less than 50/50. I would not expect him until off season workouts next April. Remember, Luck is getting shutdown based on his arm not reacting to very minimal practice. Easy throws. He's not close to throwing game-type of passes. He's not throwing 100 balls a day. He's being eased back into the offense. That he's not reacting well to it is a big red flag. Hugely disappointing. What are we going to win with Brissett? A total of 4-5 games? Maybe. But there's now tape of him not handling either Seattle's defense or Tennessee's. Other teams will see that. Jacoby is going to have to learn on the job. There are going to be more disappointing losses ahead......... 2017 is not what we all were hoping for...... It's disappointing but look at how good we will be next year with Andrew at 100% and our Defense with better Chemistry. Mack with a year under his belt will be a huge weapon for Luck. I think Ballard will nail the Draft again and we will have a new Coach which will rejuvenate us too. I want to see Luck as much as anyone but if he isn't 100% I say lets get the party started next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmopar Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 22 minutes ago, RockThatBlue said: Is shoulder soreness really a surprise? He didn't throw a football for what, 7 months or so? And just recently began throwing more? I would think his shoulder being sore would be normal. Yeah I think the loss at TN affected it this too. Pretty much puts you out of the race for the playoffs so why not just shut down Luck, let him work back slowly. Especially given how our OL is messed up. 22 minutes ago, Malakai432 said: I think they're pretty set on bringing in a new coach after this season. I'm not sure why Ballard wouldn't want to bring in his own staff. We'll definitely find out at the end of this season though! Based on? 20 minutes ago, RockThatBlue said: Stop it. I don't want that type of negativity in my life. Sorry 19 minutes ago, BR-549 said: Im guessing not. Only because if we are judging him on improved performance he has gone backwards if anything.... he has had enough time to prove his worth. This regime needs to be recycled. Fan opinion does matter in the long run and it has been a marathon Hope you're right 14 minutes ago, jvan1973 said: Doubt it Based on 4 minutes ago, Mr. Irrelevant said: They are gone. Ballard is not impressed. Don't worry. Based on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flash7 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 This appears to be more than just soreness. Ballard is addressing this and he wouldn't need to if it were just soreness. He mentioned that Luck is taking cortisone shots and would not commit if and when Luck would return to practice. He also did not commit to Luck playing this year. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000863565/article/colts-shut-down-andrew-luck-due-to-shoulder-soreness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colts_Fan12 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 It will be good if luck doesn't play but Jacoby needs to chill or he's gonna screw up our pick lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentHill Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 time to focus on fantasy football and next years draft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Just now, Colts_Fan12 said: It will be good if luck doesn't play but Jacoby needs to chill or he's gonna screw up our pick lol Brissett is good, he may win the Division We are only 1 game out, if we beat Jax on Sunday the games will rebegin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterk2011 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 12 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said: 2017 is not what we all were hoping for...... Well, that's life. Even with a healthy Luck, a playoff would've been an overachievement with this rebuilding young team. Going deep in the playoff was unrealistic. So, what we've lost? Another 8-8, maybe 9-7 season? Or, maybe, just maybe a 10-6 and a first round playoff dropoff? So be it, Luck's health is much more important. Imagine how the Packers fans might feel now. They has (had) a serious contender team, and now, they're fighting for 0.500 without Rogers I just hope that Luck's long term healty isn't in any danger. If he'll have a healthy long carreer after this injury (I am sure he learned the lesson he has to take care of himself), then we will get back twice what we are loosing now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malakai432 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 9 minutes ago, csmopar said: Yeah I think the loss at TN affected it this too. Pretty much puts you out of the race for the playoffs so why not just shut down Luck, let him work back slowly. Especially given how our OL is messed up. Based on? Sorry Hope you're right Based on Based on? Based on bringing in a new GM, 3 terrible seasons of missing the playoffs, pending a miricle. It's not rocket science. Why would they keep Pagano and even Chud?? There's no reason to keep them but every reason to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard pallo Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 18 minutes ago, csmopar said: Worst part: this probably saves chuck pagano and his staff their jobs I can see this working in Chucks favor. As long as the team continues to play hard. And they always have in the past. They are not going to expect him to make the playoffs under these circumstances. Not without your QB. They will be looking at continued player development and improved team chemistry. They said his evaluation would not be based on his record alone. Ironically we're only a game back with Brissett. We've had leads going into the fourth qtrs. only to see a tired defense give it up. The majority of people think he is already gone. I think Ballard is going to give him this season and then decide. I don't think it's a slam dunk that his mind is already made up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colts_Fan12 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 I really wish we could get a top 5 pick you could sell that for multiple picks and really build a talented team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NannyMcafee Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 1 hour ago, 2006Coltsbestever said: JMV is the best. I bet Luck doesn't play this year but if he doesn't I am fine with it because we cant win the SB anyway and need him healthy for the next 5 years. Am I the only one who feels a bit relieved by the fact that Luck won't play this year...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister P Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Not just this year... EVER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colts_Fan12 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 1 minute ago, NannyMcafee said: Am I the only one who feels a bit realieved by the fact that Luck won't play this year...? No I'm definitely very happy about this our line is garbage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 1 minute ago, NannyMcafee said: Am I the only one who feels a bit realieved by the fact that Luck won't play this year...? I am ok with it brother, we aren't winning anything big anyway this season. What I mean by big is Playoff wins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will426 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Safe to say I don't need to watch football this year then lol..not unless is miraculously appears by the time we have a chance to make a playoff run Or not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, Colts_Fan12 said: I really wish we could get a top 5 pick you could sell that for multiple picks and really build a talented team Watch us screw around and win the Division Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, Mister P said: Not just this year... EVER He isn't retiring. Don't be a boob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colts_Fan12 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Just now, 2006Coltsbestever said: Watch us screw around and win the Division That's what I'm afraid of lol I wish we sucked more lol we need that good pick plus the chance to trade it to a QB needy team would be wonderful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NannyMcafee Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said: I am ok with it brother, we aren't winning anything big anyway this season. What I mean by big is Playoff wins I didn't actually watch the colts game vs the titans. Had a really long day and I had to work early. So I fell asleep. My father was texting me through the whole game, and when I woke up, I felt like I had watched it already. Every Sunday. If I'm Ballard, and I go from watching Ried coach, to Pagano, there is just no way I don't see massive short comings. I have no doubt that Ballard is football savvy. But my biggest question would be, will Irsay even let Pagano be fired? A pipe dream would be Ballard and Manning working together. I think they would do well as a team.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalseStart Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 "Trust the Prognosis"... or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colts_Fan12 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 9 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said: Brissett is good, he may win the Division We are only 1 game out, if we beat Jax on Sunday the games will rebegin I know they keep beating each other and keeping us alive lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 1 minute ago, jvan1973 said: He isn't retiring. Don't be a boob boob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister P Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 janTHEv1973, what would you know about boob? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougDew Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Not sure I understand the accusations of Irsay lying. Did he know Andrew's shoulder was going to be sore this week? It must be a conspiracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 3 minutes ago, Mister P said: janTHEv1973, what would you know about boob? LOL You guys are cracking me up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turftoe Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 10 minutes ago, Mister P said: Not just this year... EVER You're nuts..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 6 minutes ago, Colts_Fan12 said: That's what I'm afraid of lol I wish we sucked more lol we need that good pick plus the chance to trade it to a QB needy team would be wonderful I think Texans will win it despite losing Watt, Watson is good but you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 6 minutes ago, Mister P said: janTHEv1973, what would you know about boob? LOL Definition of boob 1:a stupid awkward person :simpleton Stop being a boob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mister P Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 2006Cb, thanks... janTHEv1973 appreciates your support!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IndySouthsider Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 1 hour ago, TheRustonRifle#7 said: It is Bert Jones, "The Ruston Rifle". One of the greatest QB's ever that had his career cut short due to injuries....praying for a non parallel. I know who Bert Jones is. I was calling Luck Bert Jones 2.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 1 hour ago, shakedownstreet said: Shut him down & keep Pagano for 2017. We'll be picking 1st overall!! We beat the two worst teams in the league. Maybe third or 4th overall depending on what giants do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deedub75 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 This is not unexpected. It’s virtually impossible to have major surgery on a joint and rehab that joint without soreness. Cam Newton was shut for a couple of weeks when he returned to practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steamboat_Shaun Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 1 hour ago, MTC said: I wouldn’t put him on IR, but I wouldn’t start him at all this season. He should still try to practice with the team. It’s clear he won’t be 100% for a while. I agree with this. Practice is good for him physically, as well as mentally. It has to be driving him nuts to not be out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peterk2011 Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 23 minutes ago, richard pallo said: I think Ballard is going to give him this season and then decide. I don't think it's a slam dunk that his mind is already made up. Agree. That's the professional way to handle these situations. You don't make up your mind months before decision time, because that affects your judgement. Let it be a player, a coach, whatever. Or any business. You don't build walls of early judgements around you, if you want to make right decisions, even if it seems soo obvious sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer Posted October 18, 2017 Share Posted October 18, 2017 Put Luck on IR and bring back Stephen Morris as Brissett's backup. Brissett isn't going to spend his career as a backup for Luck. Morris might be happy to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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