Where does Pat McAfee belong in NFL history?

[Lucky Colts Fan]

Where does Pat McAfee rank in the history of punters?

 

I'm biased, so I'm going to put him up there with Ray Guy.  Pat did everything.  Perfect punts.  Perfect kickoffs.  Made some good tackles on returners.  He was the holder for Vinatieri on FGs and Extra Points.  He converted fake punts and onside kicks.  He's one of the best specialists to ever play in the NFL.

 

Does Boomstick have a chance to get into the HoF?  If so, he will probably have to wait a few years.  Since Adam Vinatieri might be 1st-ballot, that would be really cool to see them enshrined together.  When Adam gets enshrined, that will be an interesting HoF weekend in Canton, all those Pats/Colts players from the heyday of the rivalry, when Vinatieri switched sides and won yet another SB.  I could see McAfee, the media darling, interviewing everyone and bringing some comedy to the weekend.   

[rockywoj]

He was darn good, but he won't ever be considered for the HOF or anything like that.  I certainly consider him to be one of the better punters I can ever recall watching.  Shame he cut his career short.

[Yoshinator]

3 minutes ago, Lucky Colts Fan said:

Where does Pat McAfee rank in the history of punters?

 

I'm biased, so I'm going to put him up there with Ray Guy.  Pat did everything.  Perfect punts.  Perfect kickoffs.  Made some good tackles on returners.  He was the holder for Vinatieri on FGs and Extra Points.  He converted fake punts and onside kicks.  He's one of the best specialists to ever play in the NFL.

 

Does Boomstick have a chance to get into the HoF?  If so, he will probably have to wait a few years.  Since Adam Vinatieri might be 1st-ballot, that would be really cool to see them enshrined together.  When Adam gets enshrined, that will be an interesting HoF weekend in Canton, all those Pats/Colts players from the heyday of the rivalry, when Vinatieri switched sides and won yet another SB.  I could see McAfee, the media darling, interviewing everyone and bringing some comedy to the weekend.   

Pat McAfee is nowhere near a hall of famer. First, he retired at 29, so no longetivity. Second, he's a punter, and very few actually make the hall of fame that even play into their 40s. Third, he wasn't elite his whole career, just about half of it. He has no chance.

[Lucky Colts Fan]

9 minutes ago, rockywoj said:

He was darn good, but he won't ever be considered for the HOF or anything like that.  I certainly consider him to be one of the better punters I can ever recall watching.  Shame he cut his career short.

 

That's what will probably keep him out of the HoF.  He retired pretty early.  If he could have gone another 5+ years...   

[That Guy]

No chance for the hall of fame. 

 

Slight chance for the Hall of Local Favorite Legends.

[LJpalmbeacher2]

16 minutes ago, Lucky Colts Fan said:

Where does Pat McAfee rank in the history of punters?

 

I'm biased, so I'm going to put him up there with Ray Guy.  Pat did everything.  Perfect punts.  Perfect kickoffs.  Made some good tackles on returners.  He was the holder for Vinatieri on FGs and Extra Points.  He converted fake punts and onside kicks.  He's one of the best specialists to ever play in the NFL.

 

Does Boomstick have a chance to get into the HoF?  If so, he will probably have to wait a few years.  Since Adam Vinatieri might be 1st-ballot, that would be really cool to see them enshrined together.  When Adam gets enshrined, that will be an interesting HoF weekend in Canton, all those Pats/Colts players from the heyday of the rivalry, when Vinatieri switched sides and won yet another SB.  I could see McAfee, the media darling, interviewing everyone and bringing some comedy to the weekend.   

You serious? Lol

[Lucky Colts Fan]

Ok, so maybe he doesn't make the HoF, I was just being a hopeful homer.  

 

But still, Ray Guy is probably the only punter you can put above Boomstick.

[That Guy]

59 minutes ago, Lucky Colts Fan said:

Ok, so maybe he doesn't make the HoF, I was just being a hopeful homer.  

 

But still, Ray Guy is probably the only punter you can put above Boomstick.

 

I'd put Shane Lechler above Patty Mac.

[jskinnz]

1 hour ago, Lucky Colts Fan said:

Ok, so maybe he doesn't make the HoF, I was just being a hopeful homer.  

 

But still, Ray Guy is probably the only punter you can put above Boomstick.

 

Sorry but you backed up a pretty bad first post with an equally bad if not worse post in this. He is nowhere close to the 2nd best punter of all time.

 

He is not a HoF worthy player and another 5 years to his career would have very likely done nothing to change that.

 

It is one thing to be a homer but a dose of reality should be considered before suggesting such craziness.

 

Dear God training camp can't get here soon enough.

[21isSuperman]

If you were to add several more years of elite punting, then maybe you could consider having him in the discussion.  But chances of a punter being in the discussion for the HoF are insanely low, let alone making it in.

[GoPats]

 

Ugh, no. Even if a punter does his job as well as anyone... he's still a punter. Sorry. 

 

 

 

 

[Valpo2004]

No way he makes the HOF.  Only punter in the HOF is Ray Guy.

 

1. McAffee isn't at Ray Guy's level

2. McAffee's career was relatively short.  Too short for the HOF.  

 

There was no way he was going to make the hall. 

[That Guy]

I guess he could still make it as a commentator, though...  It'll take decades of work, but it could happen...

[TheRustonRifle#7]

1 hour ago, Valpo2004 said:

No way he makes the HOF.  Only punter in the HOF is Ray Guy.

 

1. McAffee isn't at Ray Guy's level

2. McAffee's career was relatively short.  Too short for the HOF.  

 

There was no way he was going to make the hall. 

Ray Guy was awesome...McAfee too...just for not as long.

[indyagent17]

Pats flamboyance was his claim to fame. Outspoken, Arrogant, Vocal and  Energetic. He was a very solid punter that had unique skills,  A master of the onside kick and a booming leg. If he had played another 4-5 years he could have been mentioned with the best but not with his short tenure. Gotta love the guy and he wont be forgotten but not GOAT or HOF

[southwest1]

5 hours ago, Lucky Colts Fan said:

 He retired pretty early.  If he could have gone another 5+ years...   

I'm no stat expert nor do I have any desire to become one either. He definitely had a knack for pinning the ball deep & he wasn't afraid to tackle punt returners at all. 

 

Special Team aficionados are like guys always in the friend zone who never get any love for their skill set. 

 

He might regret giving up his old gig for telling jokes full-time. Comedy is harder than it looks. 

 

I don't mind the discussion as a diversion LCF. As many may find this topic not to their liking, it is generating dialogue nevertheless. Well done. Pat won't be wearing a yellow jacket anytime soon or ever for that matter. 

[GoColts8818]

As a good punter for his time and day.  Remembered by Colts fans maybe the ring of honor but that's about it. 

[rockywoj]

I don't buy this crap that kickers and punters ought not make the HOF.   To me, if you are an elite, standard setting player at your position, then you deserve to be in, regardless of position.

 

as for Pat, he was elite, but for not nearly long enough.   He's not worthy.  He might be worthy for Colts recognition.  Ring of fame?   I actually doubt it, but he may have been with another 3-5 years of elite play.

[crazycolt1]

7 hours ago, GoPats said:

 

Ugh, no. Even if a punter does his job as well as anyone... he's still a punter. Sorry. 

 

 

 

 

Pat was more than just a punter. If he would have played for the Patriots you would be singing a different song.

[B~Town]

Unless his comedy career takes off in a major way very few outside of Indy fans will remember his name a few years down the road .

[crazycolt1]

10 hours ago, rockywoj said:

He was darn good, but he won't ever be considered for the HOF or anything like that.  I certainly consider him to be one of the better punters I can ever recall watching.  Shame he cut his career short.

 

4 hours ago, southwest1 said:

I'm no stat expert nor do I have any desire to become one either. He definitely had a knack for pinning the ball deep & he wasn't afraid to tackle punt returners at all. 

 

Special Team aficionados are like guys always in the friend zone who never get any love for their skill set. 

 

He might regret giving up his old gig for telling jokes full-time. Comedy is harder than it looks. 

 

I don't mind the discussion as a diversion LCF. As many may find this topic not to their liking, it is generating dialogue nevertheless. Well done. Pat won't be wearing a yellow jacket anytime soon or ever for that matter. 

Pat had 3 knee surgeries in 4 years. He had another surgery after his retirement. So as far as him just walking away (pun not intended) he walked away while he could still walk. That played a bigger part in his retirement than anything.

[southwest1]

50 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

 

Pat had 3 knee surgeries in 4 years. He had another surgery after his retirement. So as far as him just walking away (pun not intended) he walked away while he could still walk. That played a bigger part in his retirement than anything.

If Pat left the game due to wear & tear on his body, more power to him. I was just under the impression that he wanted to pursue stand up more aggressively now, as in, fulfill another dream in his life. 

 

Usually, when health is an issue, guys just say that publicly though. They've squirreled away enough millions & wanna give a go at other interests & hobbies. McAfee never said that from what I recall. I'm not doubting you CC1 & Pat's under no obligation to disclose that sure, but usually when guys hang it up they like to say stuff like I'm ready for new challenges or my body isn't bouncing back like it did before or I'm sick of film study & meetings in general. 

[NewColtsFan]

 

I don't know if the timing of this post from the OP is due to a story on NFL.com where Gl Brandt listed the top punters of all-time....

 

But Pat was listed 8th alll-time.

 

He won't make the HoF with that resume',   Ray Guy is the ONLY punter to make the Hall....

 

[crazycolt1]

3 hours ago, southwest1 said:

If Pat left the game due to wear & tear on his body, more power to him. I was just under the impression that he wanted to pursue stand up more aggressively now, as in, fulfill another dream in his life. 

 

Usually, when health is an issue, guys just say that publicly though. They've squirreled away enough millions & wanna give a go at other interests & hobbies. McAfee never said that from what I recall. I'm not doubting you CC1 & Pat's under no obligation to disclose that sure, but usually when guys hang it up they like to say stuff like I'm ready for new challenges or my body isn't bouncing back like it did before or I'm sick of film study & meetings in general. 

Pat did say it publically. He had a long interview on the Stampede Blue dated 2-2- 17. He even went into the detail of him playing years as a soccer player. He mentioned his struggle with pain pills while he played for the Colts.  He pulled out of the Pro Bowl this last year for a knee surgery. It is a very eye opening interview if you care to look it up. I would be happy to copy and paste but I don't know how to do it.  

[jskinnz]

8 hours ago, crazycolt1 said:

Pat was more than just a punter. If he would have played for the Patriots you would be singing a different song.

 

I don't believe you know @GoPats very well at all.  

[jskinnz]

9 hours ago, rockywoj said:

I don't buy this crap that kickers and punters ought not make the HOF.   To me, if you are an elite, standard setting player at your position, then you deserve to be in, regardless of position.

 

as for Pat, he was elite, but for not nearly long enough.   He's not worthy.  He might be worthy for Colts recognition.  Ring of fame?   I actually doubt it, but he may have been with another 3-5 years of elite play.

 

I don't think anyone of at least average intelligence would suggest that punters and kickers "ought not make the HOF."  If they are outstanding at their job for an extended period of time then sure they should be considered.  But in the entire course of the NFL history there has only been one to get in and look what it took and the length of time for Guy to get in.  It's a numbers game and when it comes down to it, the position player is always going to get consideration over a specialty player, as they should.

 

I do believe he gets into the Ring of Honor not only for what he did on the field but just how important he is in the Indy community.

[Lucky Colts Fan]

8 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

I don't know if the timing of this post from the OP is due to a story on NFL.com where Gl Brandt listed the top punters of all-time....

 

But Pat was listed 8th alll-time.

 

He won't make the HoF with that resume',   Ray Guy is the ONLY punter to make the Hall....

 

 

Yeah, that story got me thinking about it.  I thought McAfee should have been higher than #8, but to be fair, I have never even seen a highlight or heard of half the guys on that list.

[crazycolt1]

2 hours ago, jskinnz said:

 

I don't believe you know @GoPats very well at all.  

 

My comment does not need any explanations if you know what Pat McAfee did for the Colts. He was more than just a punter for the Colts like GoPats blew him off as.

[jskinnz]

14 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

 

My comment does not need any explanations if you know what Pat McAfee did for the Colts. He was more than just a punter for the Colts like GoPats blew him off as.

 

I won't bore you with my resume as a Colts fan - just go with the idea that I am fully aware of McAfee's importance as a player and in the Indy community.  GoPats can more than adequately defend his response, but I would bet all the tea in China his comment was about the position that McAfee played and not McAfee's Indy icon status.

 

Ray Guy is the only punter in the HoF.  It took him almost 30 years to get into the HoF after his playing days and that was through the seniors committee and not the standard voting process.  In other words, it took that long because he was "just a punter" and voters were not willing to put a punter in over position players, which most would believe is as it should be.

[crazycolt1]

41 minutes ago, jskinnz said:

 

I won't bore you with my resume as a Colts fan - just go with the idea that I am fully aware of McAfee's importance as a player and in the Indy community.  GoPats can more than adequately defend his response, but I would bet all the tea in China his comment was about the position that McAfee played and not McAfee's Indy icon status.

 

Ray Guy is the only punter in the HoF.  It took him almost 30 years to get into the HoF after his playing days and that was through the seniors committee and not the standard voting process.  In other words, it took that long because he was "just a punter" and voters were not willing to put a punter in over position players, which most would believe is as it should be.

I do not need a history lesson in Ray Guy.

I also wont bother you with my resume as a Colts fan as I have been one for over 40 years.

My comment was made without Pat's position with the city of Indy.

Pat not only was a punter he also held the field goal kicks, was one of the best on side kickers in the league and was a very good field goal kicker himself. He was maybe the best special teams players on the team and was also the back up emergency QB.  That is what I was referring to when I said he was more that just a punter.

With that in mind Ray Guy himself did not bring as much to the Raiders as Pat did to the Colts. Guy had the years over Pat but some seem to forget Pat retired more over knee issues than anything. Guy never played as hard as Pat did on the special team aspect.

I know Pat will not be a HOFer but he brought more to his team that Guy did to his.

[2006Coltsbestever]

Pat will make the Ring of the Honor IMO, he's the best Punter we have ever had, he also was pretty good at onside kicks, etc.. He is far from a HOFamer though.

[jskinnz]

52 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

I do not need a history lesson in Ray Guy.

I also wont bother you with my resume as a Colts fan as I have been one for over 40 years.

My comment was made without Pat's position with the city of Indy.

Pat not only was a punter he also held the field goal kicks, was one of the best on side kickers in the league and was a very good field goal kicker himself. He was maybe the best special teams players on the team and was also the back up emergency QB.  That is what I was referring to when I said he was more that just a punter.

With that in mind Ray Guy himself did not bring as much to the Raiders as Pat did to the Colts. Guy had the years over Pat but some seem to forget Pat retired more over knee issues than anything. Guy never played as hard as Pat did on the special team aspect.

I know Pat will not be a HOFer but he brought more to his team that Guy did to his.

 

When part of your argument to prove your point includes something that McAfee never did in a regular season NFL game, it is time to realize I am debating a lost cause and will now exit stage left.

 

 

[2006Coltsbestever]

1 hour ago, crazycolt1 said:

I do not need a history lesson in Ray Guy.

I also wont bother you with my resume as a Colts fan as I have been one for over 40 years.

My comment was made without Pat's position with the city of Indy.

Pat not only was a punter he also held the field goal kicks, was one of the best on side kickers in the league and was a very good field goal kicker himself. He was maybe the best special teams players on the team and was also the back up emergency QB.  That is what I was referring to when I said he was more that just a punter.

With that in mind Ray Guy himself did not bring as much to the Raiders as Pat did to the Colts. Guy had the years over Pat but some seem to forget Pat retired more over knee issues than anything. Guy never played as hard as Pat did on the special team aspect.

I know Pat will not be a HOFer but he brought more to his team that Guy did to his.

I would've loved to seen Pat play QB, he couldn't of been worse than Curtis Painter.

[21isSuperman]

15 hours ago, rockywoj said:

I don't buy this crap that kickers and punters ought not make the HOF.   To me, if you are an elite, standard setting player at your position, then you deserve to be in, regardless of position.

 

as for Pat, he was elite, but for not nearly long enough.   He's not worthy.  He might be worthy for Colts recognition.  Ring of fame?   I actually doubt it, but he may have been with another 3-5 years of elite play.

I'd really like to agree with you here, but an elite QB has far more impact on the game than an elite punter.  McAfee not making the HoF isn't an indication on his talent level or his abilities, but rather more of a comment on the structure of the game.  Punters don't have that much of an impact on the game.

[crazycolt1]

37 minutes ago, jskinnz said:

 

When part of your argument to prove your point includes something that McAfee never did in a regular season NFL game, it is time to realize I am debating a lost cause and will now exit stage left.

 

 

I wasn't proving a point at all. I didn't know you considered this an argument.

[WoolMagnet]

Maybe a statue of him can be erected down by th canal.

[WoolMagnet]

21 hours ago, GoPats said:

 

Ugh, no. Even if a punter does his job as well as anyone... he's still a punter. Sorry. 

 

 

 

 

Oh go count your asterisks.

[CR91]

if he played 20+ years, he just might have been the second punter to enter the hall

[Coffeedrinker]

36 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I would've loved to seen Pat play QB, he couldn't of been worse than Curtis Painter.

One, he could have been and would have been a lot worse than Painter.

 

Hunter Smith was the emergency QB for the Colts.

 

Heck Danny White was a punter that became the starting QB for the Cowboys.

 

So that fact that Patty Mac was the emergency QB for the Colts was not all that impressive (I know much iof my post is not related to your post 2006CBE I just didn't want to have to do multiple posts)

[oldunclemark]

he was a punter