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  1. You're a good guy so I'm sorry... this isn't directed at you. I'm just tired of having my character called into question because I grew up in New England. I can only hope that you and others - who have my utmost respect - understand. I wish you all the best.
  2. Yes I'm here because of my psychological insecurities. You nailed it. I mean "clockwork" is a bit of a stretch, since I don't bother posting here anymore because of the ridiculous nature of this board as it relates to the Patriots, but whatever. If it helps you sleep better at night, go with that. I've been personally attacked more times than I can account for, so I won't apologize. The people who knew me 10 years ago on this board know who I am. The rest of you are fair weather, Johnny-come-lately fans whose opinions are meaningless to me.
  3. Yup, this is part of my 10+ year plan to troll you guys. Has nothing to do with the overall quality of your typical Colts fan since 2004. Haha, nothing passive-aggressive here. The funny thing is, Colts fans have basically created what I am at this point. I'm tired of being judged as a human being based on my football rooting interests. I started off being a more balanced and objective fan. Tried to be respectful, tried to be reasonable. But... the overall hostility and nastiness I've received in return has made me realize that being a "nice guy" means nothing to you people. You are, in general, a bunch of sore losers, and that's all there is to it. Maybe someday your franchise will rise to greater heights. Maybe not. But if it doesn't... I'd say you guys are getting exactly what you deserve, based on the petty, nonsensical reaction most of us have seen here over the years. The crazy thing is that I once respected Indy as a rival. Now? You guys are a sad bunch trying to vindicate your underachieving franchise. Way to go. PS - Even if you're joking, the idea of the Patriots getting "inside info" from Inman is laughable. It has literally been a decade since the Patriots lost a game to the Colts. I can only hope those posters who mentioned it were being sarcastic. You haven't been a true threat in the AFC in over a decade. Sorry. Truth hurts, I'm sure.
  4. Yes. You guys know everything about me as a human being from a few message board posts. Whatever you do, don't actually learn the facts about Jim Irsay and some of the things he's done (at least Kraft hasn't been complicit in anyone's death). It would be way too much for your heightened sensibilities to deal with. He's truly an upstanding human being and I'm just a big, meal old Patriots fan, trying to set you guys straight. My bad.
  5. You guys nailed this on the head. The Patriots signed this guy so they could get some inside info on a team that hasn't beaten them since 2009.
  6. The best part of this is how you guys assume Irsay is above this kind of thing. He's far more of a classless human being than Kraft has ever been.
  7. GoPats

    Gronk is retiring

    Ben Coates called and was wondering why you didn't bring him up in this post. Since you're ALWAYS so free with the history lessons, interesting how you didn't bring him up. Google failed you this time!
  8. I just like the way y'all selectively look at evidence when it comes to things like solicitation, harassing trainers at Tennessee, and using HGH that's delivered to your house in your wife's name.
  9. I'm sorry that you find it repulsive. I guess it comes down to one question: "Did Robert Kraft knowingly support a human trafficking organization/operation?" If you believe that the answer is "yes," you're making assumptions. If you believe that the answer is "no," you're making assumptions. But I get it... I'm a Patriots fan, so my opinion (no matter what facts I have to support it) is not as of much value around here as the opinions of other posters. Enjoy your Indianapolis Colts love-in, then. Just don't come here expecting any reality.
  10. Go back and actually read my posts. I didn't say a single word about getting off on a technicality. All I've said through this entire thread is that soliciting prostitution is not human trafficking.
  11. I don't know, but I bet you it's accurate.
  12. Then you don't read much. But don't let that stop you from being all Judge-y McJudge-rton. If you can put a lid on the sanctimonious, holier-than-thou stuff for about a minute, and realize that we're having more of a legal discussion than a discussion about morals and values, maybe this would be worthwhile. You're also stating options as fact. "It's not anywhere near the majority of them," you said. Really? You KNOW that? If you do, please share how, or a source, or whatever. Did you miss this yesterday? "But it appears Kraft was caught on camera getting services from two women who are not victims of human trafficking: the 45-year-old manager of the spa, Lei Wang, and 58-year-old spa employee Shen Mingbi, also believed to be an operator of the business — both licensed masseuses and Florida residents." https://nypost.com/2019/02/28/how-patriots-owner-robert-kraft-could-get-off-in-prostitution-case/ I've said it at least twice, and I don't know how else to say it, so I'll just repeat it I guess? If Kraft is guilty of the charges he's facing, then I've lost a lot of respect that I had for the man. I don't believe in condemning human beings for making mistakes like this one though. He didn't kill anyone, he didn't hurt anyone, he didn't steal from anyone. He took part in an illegal activity that also carries a heavy moral burden for a lot of people. This is a guy who has been very generous with a lot of charities and overall has done far more good than bad in this world. I have to wonder if you guys would even care if this was, say, the owner of the Browns, or Arthur Blank, or basically any other team!
  13. All good points... thanks man. I think we're far closer to agreeing on most of this than we are on disagreeing. Sometimes its just a matter of talking it through! I won't lie, it can sometimes be very frustrating to be a lifelong fan of the Patriots, despite their success on the field. Whether you're a player, coach, or game-day personnel, you've got to know that the spotlight is always on you and that any slip-up will be magnified. It infuriates me when they do stupid stuff like this.
  14. I can only speak for myself but I didn't feel that way at the time. I figured, for a guy like Irsay, having $30K on you is the equivalent to me carrying $50 around in my wallet. I am also sympathetic to what he went through. I had a problem of my own with painkillers following an injury and surgery about 18 years ago. I still don't take Percocet or Vicodin to this day... the strongest drug I'll put in my body is ibuprofen. @Flash7 and @Narcosys... I could agree with you guys on this, but then we'd all be wrong. Seriously though, and with all due respect... You guys can't really and truly believe this. Basically you're saying that every prostitute on the planet is a trafficked sex slave. Though I can't speak from experience, I would guess that is not accurate. Seems to me that plenty of them do what they do of their own free will and accord. If Kraft wanted to avoid any chance of this story coming out, all he had to do was go to Nevada instead of Florida. Which is why I think it's fair to surmise that he was oblivious to the status of the women he visited at the spa. If you want to look at it from a different, perhaps more objective point-of-view... I don't know how you could argue against this point: Why is soliciting a misdemeanor in most states, while any sort of human trafficking crimes would be felonies? It's pretty simple. Because one of those things, though subject to people's individual moral judgement, is far less of an offense and in and of itself doesn't hurt anyone else. The other is far more reprehensible and just downright EVIL. I'm not trying to minimize what he did. As I already stated, I've lost respect for the man. But let's not make him out to be some horrible monster because you guys don't like his football team. That's not fair at all.
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