Chuck Pagano will be made available to the media at 1:30 today.

[Coltsman1788]

Same ole boring cliched Chuck presser.  No interesting news here other than he has yet to have his annual meeting with Irsay.  That meeting will be later.  Doesn't sound like he expects to be going anywhere.  He will keep working and grinding toward mediocrity with head down, ear muffs and blinders on.  lol

[coltsva]

Irsay has to let everything proceed as usual until he makes an announcement. If he didn't make Chuck available it would be chaotic in the media, instead of a more controlled speculation. 

[Indyfan4life]

Burger King...

 

 

I'm done.

[Jackie Daytona]

Chuck thinks continuity is huge?  No @@$@?  lol  

[krunk]

1 minute ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

I didn't see this coming....

 

Pagano is talking like he expects to be back,  but hasn't met with the owner yet.   

 

Hmmm?

 

You're intelligent enough to know what it means.  He's gotten enough info to be confident enough to say stuff like this. 

[aReggie7]

This presser feels like a sales pitch for Pagano to keep his job. I love Wells and Holder questioning him on how he feels this team is heading in the right direction.

[DougDew]

He's not answering these questions very well.  He's struggling for a reasonable explanation as to why he thinks the team in not regressing.

[stitches]

 

[#12.]

Schefter - Irsay is not even in the building today.

[csmopar]

Just now, ar7 said:

This presser feels like more of a sales pitch for Pagano to keep his job. I love Wells and Holder questioning him on how he feels this team is heading in the right direction.

I got the same feeling.

[Jackie Daytona]

He keeps repeating the same talking points, I don't feel like he knows anything more than we do

[RockThatBlue]

Of course he says he plans to be back. Hes not gonna say he plans to be fired lol. That statement means very little. 

 

That said, I still think he returns.

[NewColtsFan]

Just now, krunk said:

You're intelligent enough to know what it means.  He's gotten enough info to be confident enough to say stuff like this. 

 

I think you're likely right.....    but this is unfolding unusually.

 

If this was normal,  the coach would've met with the owner.      And note that he's made no comment about Grigson -- not yet.    

 

I find it all.....    odd.

 

I think there are still lots of questions and I'm wondering if we'll hear from the owner today?

 

[Gabriel Alexander Morillo]

1 hour ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

Because we don't have the talent.      And never have. 

 

When the Colts are blown out it's talent issue,  not a coaching issue.

 

Why the fan base doesn't know this is a complete mystery.....

 

I agree with everything you wrote but I'll add something.  When we start slowly on offense and can't finish in close games that's a coaching and execution issue.  There's no debating that 

[sfergson727]

I'm craving a whopper for some reason.  Did he really just give a new theory on Burger King and football?  Ugh....I started drinking with the first "get grinding" comment, and now I can't feel my feet.

[csmopar]

Just now, #12. said:

Schefter - Irsay is not even in the building today.

 Cause he's in Michigan 

[Colts_Fan12]

espn just said Jim hasn't even been in the building today 

[BOTT]

1 minute ago, coltsva said:

Irsay has to let everything proceed as usual until he makes an announcement. If he didn't make Chuck available it would be chaotic in the media, instead of a more controlled speculation. 

He could of made the announcement by now if he wanted to.  He's had five yrs of Chuck....shouldn't be that difficult.

[dgambill]

7 minutes ago, Coltsman1788 said:

Yes! Grigson had his chance to remake the roster with the benefit of lots of cap space and failed miserably.  We should not give him the opportunity to mess up a second time with this much cap space.  I don't trust him to make the right moves at this point.  We have a great opportunity here.

The first go round was a rookie GM that looked scared to make mistakes playing it safe. Perhaps this time he has learned on the job and will realize what it takes to build it right. I'm not thrilled with either guy. They aren't awful but neither has shown me enough that I would be confident in placing the future of my franchise with them. If I had identified my own guys and confident I could bring them in...I'd move on. But i think this year will be like last year...no clear cut replacements that would dramatically change the direction of this team. I expect them both retained.

[Jackie Daytona]

Keeps saying he failed, fell short, it's all on him, but we are heading in the right direction, claims they set the bar so high early on that this regression is just what happens at times..... but not where they want to go, he knows where they want to go.   So, he just doesn't know how to get there anymore?

[coltsva]

1 minute ago, #12. said:

Schefter - Irsay is not even in the building today.

Good, he's getting a contract signed!

[Jay Kirk]

I would love to see Grigson removed and Peyton M installed

[NewColtsFan]

1 minute ago, Gabriel Alexander Morillo said:

I agree with everything you wrote but I'll add something.  When we start slowly on offense and can't finish in close games that's a coaching and execution issue.  There's no debating that 

 

 

Actually,  I think there's plenty to debate.....    but we can save that for another day.

 

Way too many other things happening today...

 

[MTC]

 

 

Keep chopping wood.

[sfergson727]

Well, Pagano dropped a notch in my book after that presser.  That puts him at notch -1.

[Jackie Daytona]

2 minutes ago, dgambill said:

The first go round was a rookie GM that looked scared to make mistakes playing it safe. Perhaps this time he has learned on the job and will realize what it takes to build it right. I'm not thrilled with either guy. They aren't awful but neither has shown me enough that I would be confident in placing the future of my franchise with them. If I had identified my own guys and confident I could bring them in...I'd move on. But i think this year will be like last year...no clear cut replacements that would dramatically change the direction of this team. I expect them both retained.

Clear cut sure fire GM's without risk do not become available most years.  You go find someone you think can do the job better, and trust your interview process and instincts.

[Jackie Daytona]

Just now, Shafty138 said:

Clear cut sure fire GM's without risk do not become available most years.  You go find someone you think can do the job better, and trust your interview process and instincts.

Hell, Polian wasn't all that available, had to trade for him.

[krunk]

4 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

I think you're likely right.....    but this is unfolding unusually.

 

If this was normal,  the coach would've met with the owner.      And note that he's made no comment about Grigson -- not yet.    

 

I find it all.....    odd.

 

I think there are still lots of questions and I'm wondering if we'll hear from the owner today?

 

His job is to speak about himself and those he coaches.  Not to speak about Grigson. I just think when Irsay said no wholesale changes he meant that.  Only way wholesale changes occur is when you fire the coach.  If you fire the GM then it's likely you're firing the coach as well.  That's about the only 2 things you can do to initiate wholesale changes outside of firing coordinators.  As bad as the defense was you would assume we would have heard about that pretty soon.  So I don't think it has anything to do with getting rid of coordinators.

[NewColtsFan]

4 minutes ago, DougDew said:

He's not answering these questions very well.  He's struggling for a reasonable explanation as to why he thinks the team in not regressing.

 

I think he's struggling because he doesn't wan to say anything publicly that might sound like he's (A) throwing Grigson under the bus, or (B) throwing any of his players under the bus.

 

It puts the coach in an awkward spot and Pagano has never been great at answering those kind of questions.   Few coaches are.      You've got to have super status like Bellichick to be able to say what you want,  and even he doesn't say all that much....

 

[Colt Overseas]

Well at least we know the Colt's are going to keep on grinding. That should make us feel confident about Chuck right..

[MTC]

Wake me up in 2018.

[Fisticuffs111]

That presser was one of the more stumbling and bumbling, cliche ridden presser I've ever seen.

[#12.]

Until we hear something on Grigson, this press conference means nothing.

[Jackie Daytona]

Yeah, that pretty much sucked

 

[backshoulderfade]

Even if Chuck is going to be let go, Irsay should have adressed it by now. Firstly, Chuck has given everything to the Colts over the last 5 seasons. Whether we like the job he has done or not he still deserves the clarity. Secondly, this is going to affect our ability to hire the best possible candidate should he be gone.

[corgi]

Summary of press conference. *Chuck Pagano walks on stage, sits on a snare drum, farts, snarls, walks off stage.*

[Fisticuffs111]

I don't see any way Irsay would let Chuck do that presser if he was letting him go.

[NewColtsFan]

Just now, krunk said:

His job is to speak about himself and those he coaches.  Not to speak about Grigson.

I just think when he said no wholesale changes he meant that.  Only way wholesale changes

occur is when you fire the coach.  If you fire the GM then it's likely you're firing the coach as

well.  That's about the only 2 things you can do to initiate wholesale changes outside of firing

coordinators.  As bad as the defense was you would assume we would have heard about that

pretty soon.  So I don't think it has anything to do with getting rid of coordinators.

 

I guess what I'm saying is that if I'm Irsay or Grigson (assuming he still has his job)  that I wouldn't let Chuck go out and talk without having met with me.    He'd wait to meet with the owner,   or the owner would make sure he'd have met with Chuck already before he went out and met with the press.

 

It just makes things more awkward.

 

And if Grigson is getting the axe,  I wouldn't let Chuck speak until that was done.

 

And before I'd let Chuck speak,  I'd come out and say what I've decided.    Who is staying and who is going before I'd let Chuck speak.      But maybe that's just me......

 

[Coltsman1788]

4 minutes ago, dgambill said:

The first go round was a rookie GM that looked scared to make mistakes playing it safe. Perhaps this time he has learned on the job and will realize what it takes to build it right. I'm not thrilled with either guy. They aren't awful but neither has shown me enough that I would be confident in placing the future of my franchise with them. If I had identified my own guys and confident I could bring them in...I'd move on. But i think this year will be like last year...no clear cut replacements that would dramatically change the direction of this team. I expect them both retained.

You may very well be correct. Everything Irsay has said up until now would support that both would be retained.  In my opinion, that would be a disaster for the future of this franchise.  My enthusiasm for upcoming Colts football seasons would be virtually nonexistant.  I'll always be a Colts fan but would become numb to them. 

[1959Colts]

Looks like the ship is sinking fast... With Chuck at the helm