Colts interested in Andrew Billings

[SDakColts]

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— It's a big offseason for the Indianapolis Colts, and I'm told from a team source that they like Baylor nose tackle Andrew Billings a lot in Round 1.

[MarquisJ]

great news

[SP_21]

Excellent news. I would be stoked with Billings at 18. 

[krunk]

Nice

[Boiler_Colt]

Bleacher Report, so take it with a grain of salt. They said we were "in love" with Damarious Randall last year. That being said, I like Billings a ton. He could make the D-Line long term beastly.

[weslo1812]

Who knows if it's really true....but boy I sure hope so!!!! I would love to have this kid!!!

[OffensivelyPC]

I like the addition of Billings.  I think it would allow us to two gap more often if we wanted to go back to that.  I'm not sure how Henry Anderson is, but I think Langford would be fine (he did it in Miami, anyway).  With Anderson, he's probably better shooting gaps anyway; at least last year he proved to me he has that ability.  

[Defjamz26]

I'm telling you, it'll come down to Billings or Elliot. I almost hope Elliot gets taken earlier so it's an easy decision lol.

[Luck2Hilton4TD]

Found a pretty good write-up on it:

 

https://horseshoeheroes.com/2016/03/04/colts-rumored-to-be-interested-in-baylor-nt-andrew-billings/

[loudnproudcolt]

Remember, this is all smoke right now, although I do believe they like Billings, and it is a position of need. I still believe the smoke signals are going to blow away from Ryan Kelly, and that will be your first round pick, which I am on record as being fine with. I also would be OK with Billings, and then go with Martin in the 2nd round, although I like Kelly over Martin, and think he could be our anchor for the line for years to come. Not a sexy pick, but a real necessary one. Now if we get a C in FA, then I am all for Billings. Mayock raves about his possiblities as a NT.

Edited March 4, 2016 by loudnproudcolt
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[pgt_rob]

I would dig on that pick for sure.

[NewColtsFan]

 

I'm sure he's a good player,  but I don't get this pick at all....

 

We'd pass up our two biggest areas of need (pass rush and interior OL) for a position that is typically greatly discounted (NT) and he's roughly the same size as Parry.    Now, he's much, much better than Parry,  but I don't see how the Colts get better taking a Nose Tackle at 18.      

 

With this pick we'd be trying to address our two top areas of need in the 2nd and 3rd round.    Not very desirable.

 

Billings is not who I think the Colts should take.

 

[danlhart87]

Billings is my favorite prospect so you know how I feel about this 

[richard pallo]

Who we sign in FA is going to dictate this pick.  Elliot will be the pick if he is there but I think he goes early. Then it comes down to whether we sign a center or NT or both in FA.  Billings or Kelly would both be great choices and both should start.  We will have a better idea in the next ten days. 

[SP_21]

51 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

I'm sure he's a good player,  but I don't get this pick at all....

 

We'd pass up our two biggest areas of need (pass rush and interior OL) for a position that is typically greatly discounted (NT) and he's roughly the same size as Parry.    Now, he's much, much better than Parry,  but I don't see how the Colts get better taking a Nose Tackle at 18.      

 

With this pick we'd be trying to address our two top areas of need in the 2nd and 3rd round.    Not very desirable.

 

Billings is not who I think the Colts should take.

 

It all comes down to BPA. Drafting for need isn't a good strategy. I would rather not reach for anyone. 

[NorthernBlue]

1 hour ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

I'm sure he's a good player,  but I don't get this pick at all....

 

We'd pass up our two biggest areas of need (pass rush and interior OL) for a position that is typically greatly discounted (NT) and he's roughly the same size as Parry.    Now, he's much, much better than Parry,  but I don't see how the Colts get better taking a Nose Tackle at 18.      

 

With this pick we'd be trying to address our two top areas of need in the 2nd and 3rd round.    Not very desirable.

 

Billings is not who I think the Colts should take.

 

Billings is super talented though. And Adding him to our D-Line would give us a potential top 10 (maybe top 5 depending on how Art and Anderson do in the return). An improved D-Line would help out the Pass rush and Secondary greatly. Plus, I don't think it'd be smart to take an interior lineman in round one, at least in this draft. The value isn't good enough, considering who we could get in rounds 2 and 3 (Martin, Tuerk, Garnett etc).

 

Plus, there's still FA (which imo atleast is the correct way to fill needs) which starts in a couple days. How we do there obviously will dictate this pick. 

[PeterBowman]

I have a giant man crush on Billings so I'd love this pick.

 

But if he's gone, I'd be all about Ryan Kelly

 

help shore up either line.

[NewColtsFan]

1 hour ago, SP_21 said:

It all comes down to BPA. Drafting for need isn't a good strategy. I would rather not reach for anyone. 

 

That's fine,  except I don't think a 310 pound NT is BPA.

 

 

 

[Defjamz26]

2 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

I'm sure he's a good player,  but I don't get this pick at all....

 

We'd pass up our two biggest areas of need (pass rush and interior OL) for a position that is typically greatly discounted (NT) and he's roughly the same size as Parry.    Now, he's much, much better than Parry,  but I don't see how the Colts get better taking a Nose Tackle at 18.      

 

With this pick we'd be trying to address our two top areas of need in the 2nd and 3rd round.    Not very desirable.

 

Billings is not who I think the Colts should take.

 

BPA which is why Elliot is a legit option as well. But Billings instantly makes the defensive line better. Because he's so powerful he not only destroys the pocket but also eliminates any inside run. Plus he makes the LBs better by keeping them clean. He can also add pass rush. But above all he's way better than Parry is now and will be in the future. He has a very rare skillet for a NT.

[NewColtsFan]

1 hour ago, NorthernBlue said:

Billings is super talented though. And Adding him to our D-Line would give us a potential top 10 (maybe top 5 depending on how Art and Anderson do in the return). An improved D-Line would help out the Pass rush and Secondary greatly. Plus, I don't think it'd be smart to take an interior lineman in round one, at least in this draft. The value isn't good enough, considering who we could get in rounds 2 and 3 (Martin, Tuerk, Garnett etc).

 

Plus, there's still FA (which imo atleast is the correct way to fill needs) which starts in a couple days. How we do there obviously will dictate this pick. 

 

I think it would improve our run defense.

 

I'm not sure it would do much of anything to our pass rush....

 

[NewColtsFan]

1 minute ago, Defjamz26 said:

BPA which is why Elliot is a legit option as well. But Billings instantly makes the defensive line better. Because he's so powerful he not only destroys the pocket but also eliminates any inside run. Plus he makes the LBs better by keeping them clean. He can also add pass rush. But above all he's way better than Parry is now and will be in the future. He has a very rare skillet for a NT.

 

I understand what a nose tackle does.      I just don't like using the 18th overall pick on a 310 pound nose tackle.

 

I want more bang for my buck.

 

I think Billings would be even better in a 4-3 defense.    I think there he could be a Holy terror.

 

 

[LockeDown]

We'd have the strongest guy in the NFL anchoring our Dline.  That's truly building the monster.

[BOTT]

1 hour ago, SP_21 said:

It all comes down to BPA. Drafting for need isn't a good strategy. I would rather not reach for anyone. 

I don't think teams are as staunch when it comes to BPA as some on this board.  Plus, NCF didn't say anything about reaching.

[COLTS449]

I'm betting its Leonard Floyd. But Lawson, Ogbah, Spence, Billings, Whitehair, Kelly, Alexander, or Apple wouldn't surprise me at all. It all depends on what we do in free agency.

[jim scheurich]

Billings fine with me , just not in the 1st round.

[Hoosiernsavga]

I would be very happy with Billings. I wouldn't mind if we go OL with either Decker or Conklin. An edge rusher in Floyd or Lawson. Or even a CB in Apple or Alexander.. 

With all our roster needs as long as we DON'T draft a WR or RB in the first I'm happy  

[SP_21]

16 minutes ago, BOTT said:

I don't think teams are as staunch when it comes to BPA as some on this board.  Plus, NCF didn't say anything about reaching.

I agree that BPA is blown out of proportion on this forum. 

 

He said we should draft O Line or edge. I think it would be a reach to draft an interior o lineman and I don't like any of the edge rushers that will be available at 18. That's why I mentioned reaching. 

[Defjamz26]

42 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

I understand what a nose tackle does.      I just don't like using the 18th overall pick on a 310 pound nose tackle.

 

I want more bang for my buck.

 

I think Billings would be even better in a 4-3 defense.    I think there he could be a Holy terror.

 

 

He's a 310 lb NT with top notch power and strength that can't be described in words. That's rare. I'd argue he's stronger now then some of the top DTs in the NFL. It translates on the field too.

[danlhart87]

It's quite simple people...

 

Billings power and ability to wreak havoc on the line will open up space to the LBs and also help the secondary!

 

His presence would definitely be more eye opening than any other rush OLB.

[COLTS449]

3 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

I'm sure he's a good player,  but I don't get this pick at all....

 

We'd pass up our two biggest areas of need (pass rush and interior OL) for a position that is typically greatly discounted (NT) and he's roughly the same size as Parry.    Now, he's much, much better than Parry,  but I don't see how the Colts get better taking a Nose Tackle at 18.      

 

With this pick we'd be trying to address our two top areas of need in the 2nd and 3rd round.    Not very desirable.

 

Billings is not who I think the Colts should take.

 

 

I agree NCF. I'm all for bringing in a NT, but I think taking Austin Johnson or Kenny Clark in the 2nd/3rd would be fine. I think all 3 are going to be really good players, so might as well get the better value. If this were a weaker class of DT's Clark and maybe Johnson would be 1st round picks. But you're right 100%. We have to address the big 4, before we do anything else. The big 4 obviously being Pass Rush, Corner, Guard, and Center.

[COLTS449]

If we signed a G, C, OLB, and CB all in free agency Billings would be a great pick. But I doubt we do that. And even if we did I'd still prefer another EDGE guy at 18. Its been proven over and over that you have to have a good pass rush in order to win the big one. Look at Denver this year. Seattle 2 years ago. Both had dominant pass rushers. And you cant ever have enough. Denver had 2 guys backing up that had 4-5 sacks a piece. Mathis is getting old, and Walden isn't a 10 plus sack guy and Werner is......Well he's Werner. We need to both sign a free agent OLB and draft Floyd, Spence, Ogbah, or Lawson at 18.

[crazycolt1]

4 minutes ago, COLTS449 said:

 

 

4 minutes ago, COLTS449 said:

If we signed a G, C, OLB, and CB all in free agency Billings would be a great pick. But I doubt we do that. And even if we did I'd still prefer another EDGE guy at 18. Its been proven over and over that you have to have a good pass rush in order to win the big one. Look at Denver this year. Seattle 2 years ago. Both had dominant pass rushers. And you cant ever have enough. Denver had 2 guys backing up that had 4-5 sacks a piece. Mathis is getting old, and Walden isn't a 10 plus sack guy and Werner is......Well he's Werner. We need to both sign a free agent OLB and draft Floyd, Spence, Ogbah, or Lawson at 18.

It has also been proved over and over you have to protect your own QB to win at all. Just saying that the offensive line is just important as a pass rusher.

[COLTS449]

4 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

 

It has also been proved over and over you have to protect your own QB to win at all. Just saying that the offensive line is just important as a pass rusher.

 

Yeah I agree 100%. I didn't say it wasn't. We have 4 major needs. But Pass Rush and the O-Line takes the cheese. If we want to have that unstoppable offense like the plan is, we have to keep 12 upright.

[Dustin]

43 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

 

It has also been proved over and over you have to protect your own QB to win at all. Just saying that the offensive line is just important as a pass rusher.

 

The Brocnos just won with one of the worst offensive lines in the NFL. 

[crazycolt1]

3 minutes ago, Dustin said:

 

The Brocnos just won with one of the worst offensive lines in the NFL. 

They were rated #17

That's closer to the middle, not the worst.

[danlhart87]

53 minutes ago, COLTS449 said:

If we signed a G, C, OLB, and CB all in free agency Billings would be a great pick. But I doubt we do that. And even if we did I'd still prefer another EDGE guy at 18. Its been proven over and over that you have to have a good pass rush in order to win the big one. Look at Denver this year. Seattle 2 years ago. Both had dominant pass rushers. And you cant ever have enough. Denver had 2 guys backing up that had 4-5 sacks a piece. Mathis is getting old, and Walden isn't a 10 plus sack guy and Werner is......Well he's Werner. We need to both sign a free agent OLB and draft Floyd, Spence, Ogbah, or Lawson at 18.

The game is won in the trenches. No OLB is worth a 1st rounder anyway.

[BleedBlu8792]

8 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

They were rated #17

That's closer to the middle, not the worst.

 

Rated 17th in what and by who? That OL was terrible and arguably the worst Peyton ever played behind with the exception of the 2010 line.

[BleedBlu8792]

7 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

The game is won in the trenches. No OLB is worth a 1st rounder anyway.

 

Are you saying in general or just this year?

[Track Guy]

14 minutes ago, Dustin said:

 

The Brocnos just won with one of the worst offensive lines in the NFL. 

 

They have a nasty defense. If your defense is really special they can carry an offense, and vice versa really.

 

Over the past 20 years there have been 40 teams who played in the Super Bowl, there have actually been more teams with middle of the back or below average defenses than there have been teams with middle of the pack or below average offenses. But not by much, it's really close by the numbers.

[danlhart87]

33 minutes ago, BleedBlu8792 said:

 

Are you saying in general or just this year?

In general 

Billings will not only help open lanes for the pass rush but will help in run D too.

I doubt Floyd or Spence could do both.