List of head coaches for next year

[Superman]

1 minute ago, BOTT said:

Is there really any proof he would want that kind of responsibility?  I hear it a lot and have no idea where to comes from.  

 

No proof, but it's kind of the pattern when a big time college coach goes to the NFL. He has full control at Alabama, and can kind of name his price for any college program. If he's going to come back to the NFL, he'd want to do it on his own terms, and determine the kind of roster he has to work with. Why wouldn't he want control in the NFL? Pete Carroll has it, Chip Kelly has it... Nick Saban wouldn't want it also?

[Superman]

2 minutes ago, BOTT said:

He just traded up in the first round to draft a RB.  A RB!!!  No thanks

 

And his roster has fallen apart in two years. 

[BOTT]

27 minutes ago, Jcolt72 said:

He Sucks, I would not want this move at all, He was a lousy HC and not good OC and DC now with S.F.

He was actually quite good when he had a healthy Favre

 

he was never the OC for SF

[BOTT]

1 minute ago, Superman said:

 

No proof, but it's kind of the pattern when a big time college coach goes to the NFL. He has full control at Alabama, and can kind of name his price for any college program. If he's going to come back to the NFL, he'd want to do it on his own terms, and determine the kind of roster he has to work with. Why wouldn't he want control in the NFL? Pete Carroll has it, Chip Kelly has it... Nick Saban wouldn't want it also?

I have no idea.  And while Carroll has final say, doesn't he have a hand picked GM who I'm sure does a lot of the lifting?  With Saban's connections in the NFL I could see him wanting that kind of relationship....and I would be fine with that.

[Rally5]

7 minutes ago, BOTT said:

He just traded up in the first round to draft a RB.  A RB!!!  No thanks

I have no idea what the GM talent pool looks like.

[BOTT]

1 minute ago, Rally5 said:

I have no idea what the GM talent pool looks like.

I'm not sure any outsider really does.....unless it's like when Irsay hired Polian.  That was a no brainer.

[Indyfan4life]

Saban doesn't put up with crap, and when his players make a mistake he let's them know about it. We need that kind of fire on this team. Not coddling and shoulder pats, giving the "buck up, you'll do better next time" stuff. This isn't elementary school football. 

[Superman]

2 minutes ago, BOTT said:

I have no idea.  And while Carroll has final say, doesn't he have a hand picked GM who I'm sure does a lot of the lifting?  With Saban's connections in the NFL I could see him wanting that kind of relationship....and I would be fine with that.

 

Pete Carroll handpicked his GM. Unlike most teams where it's the other way around.

 

It didn't work out so well for Jeff Fisher. Has to be the right guy. I'm not convinced Saban is the right guy for that kind of control. I don't think SEC football works in the NFL, and Saban is the embodiment of SEC football. 

 

Like you say, it's an assumption that Saban wants that kind of control.

[DBoogOld ColtsFan]

You guys are crazy, we don't need any more Philadelphia type losers and we definitely don't want any old shoes from Cleveland, if we do that we are in the 1991 to 1996 era, do you really want that. We can't pass around and then collect duds like Grigson likes to do. Its simple, Keep Pagano (Ravens heritage) find good support coaches, yes and especially get rid of "Chud" gee I'd rather have Pep, I'd rather have no one.  The Offense is terrible, no clue where they are on the field and no clue of game situation.  That's coaching and we are another version of "Cleveland".  If we keep that guy, I'm going to become an Eagles and Ravens fan.  On Harbaugh, dream on, they will never let him go. First issue is the GM, bring back Manning to do that, he is done playing will never be a coach and would be a good GM.

[OHColtfan]

I agree that we need someone with some HC experience or someone what has been a coordinator for several years with a good track record. It was probably a bad idea to put a first time HC with a first time GM. I wouldn't mind a college HC coming as long as he had some kind of positive NFL experience in his pocket.  Really don't want the media hyped latest hottest coordinator type guy,  too many of them can't function as HC's.

 

Just a couple of wild hair thoughts with no particular basis for any of them, just thoughts - David Shaw from Stanford, Pete Carmichael OC New Orleans, Sean McDermott DC for Panthers (just the kind of guy I really don't want, but we will probably have to consider), Doug Marrone (former Bills HC-an odd bird, but a winning HC), and one real out there sort of name- Mike Shannahan.

 

Interesting article on the record of the different type of HC's hired- college, coordinator, etc.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/24921892/nfl-coaching-carousel-which-coaching-archetype-fares-best

[DBoogOld ColtsFan]

It doesn't matter what we want, its up to the big guy and I think he hates losing. Maybe we can lose the next two (we won't) and get a good pick or twoB's no receivers.  The next 10 picks should be O line and D line nothing else.

[BOTT]

13 minutes ago, DBoogOld ColtsFan said:

You guys are crazy, we don't need any more Philadelphia type losers and we definitely don't want any old shoes from Cleveland, if we do that we are in the 1991 to 1996 era, do you really want that. We can't pass around and then collect duds like Grigson likes to do. Its simple, Keep Pagano (Ravens heritage) find good support coaches, yes and especially get rid of "Chud" gee I'd rather have Pep, I'd rather have no one.  The Offense is terrible, no clue where they are on the field and no clue of game situation.  That's coaching and we are another version of "Cleveland".  If we keep that guy, I'm going to become an Eagles and Ravens fan.  On Harbaugh, dream on, they will never let him go. First issue is the GM, bring back Manning to do that, he is done playing will never be a coach and would be a good GM.

So your solution is to keep ol' dim wit?  Chuck would be better off being the assistant manager of a truck stop.

[OffensivelyPC]

34 minutes ago, BOTT said:

Is there really any proof he would want that kind of responsibility?  I hear it a lot and have no idea where to comes from.  

Thats just the rumor, unfounded maybe. But theres not even a rumor that Saban wants to coach in the NFL, let alone caoching the Colts and here we are discussing it.  I just figured rumors at this point were fair game.

[GoColts00]

1 hour ago, Rally5 said:

You know Vic was our DC for a couple years in 2000.  I'm not sure he's coming back.

Ya, but that was DC. A lot of things change in 15 years and this would be for the HC which he should have been in SF after Harbaugh left.

[MartinPeterson]

No decent HC will come here while Grigson is in place. Grigson needs to be fired first and a new GM appointed who can choose the HC.

[OffensivelyPC]

35 minutes ago, Indyfan4life said:

Saban doesn't put up with crap, and when his players make a mistake he let's them know about it. We need that kind of fire on this team. Not coddling and shoulder pats, giving the "buck up, you'll do better next time" stuff. This isn't elementary school football. 

Sounds like alk we are missing is an angry sideline critic as oposed to a coach.

[Restored]

No Bill Belichek minons (McDaniels or Patrica)

No Adam Gase (good coordinator but I don't trust him due to lack of experience)

[OHColtfan]

3 minutes ago, MartinPeterson said:

No decent HC will come here while Grigson is in place. Grigson needs to be fired first and a new GM appointed who can choose the HC.

 

I'm with you, especially after all the media this year about his relationship/interference, etc with the HC. What we would get is someone who is willing to put up with that- and that's exactly what we don't need. If we want a strong HC to lead the team, Grigs has to go.

[NewEra]

I'd swing for the fences to get Harbaugh

[BOTT]

8 minutes ago, NewEra said:

I'd swing for the fences to get Harbaugh

You would strike out

[OHColtfan]

I do think the one drawing card we have to get an experienced HC is that we have a young, talented QB for him to work with. That might make a difference in one of these guys deciding to take a shot with the Colts. But really need someone who will be committed to developing his talent, and protecting his health.

[ColtsBTM12]

Gruden would be awesome

[Superman]

4 minutes ago, ColtsBTM12 said:

Gruden would be awesome

 

No thanks.

[ColtsBTM12]

32 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

No thanks.

Well, I think we need a new GM more than we need a new head coach. If we get rid of Grigson and bring in someone who can hit on some draft picks and protect our franchise QB, then I think we'll be fine. Gruden would work well with Andrew, he's got real NFL coaching experience having won a Super Bowl, and he's got a fiery mentality that could be exactly what this team needs. He probably won't go back into coaching, but if he did, I'd rather have him than Adam Gase, Nick Saban, or Sean Payton.

[NewEra]

31 minutes ago, BOTT said:

You would strike out

 

Never know unless you try. You could get him. But at what cost?

[BOTT]

9 minutes ago, NewEra said:

 

Never know unless you try. You could get him. But at what cost?

I'm pretty sure it would only cost Irsay money.....which he has plenty of.  He's not leaving UM after one year anyway.

[Gavin]

 

Josh Mcdaniels

Hue Jackson

I also actually like Mike Pettine

Pat Shurmur

Rick Dennison

Greg Roman

 

 

[RomanianColtsFan]

It's disheartening for me because I can't get excited about any of the names mentioned in this thread.

I rather have someone new like Harbaugh was when Ravens hired him from ST coordinator position but it's pretty much a lottery because you never know how the skills of lower level coaches translate to head coaching position.

Anyway, I would like a coach with good people skills but who can outsmart other coaches and who is not bound to labels like defensive, or offensive coach, that doesn't believe in cliches like run the ball, stop the run or some other crap.

[Indyfan4life]

1 hour ago, OffensivelyPC said:

Sounds like alk we are missing is an angry sideline critic as oposed to a coach.

??? 

I don't think you understand what I mean. I'd love to have someone with as much passion and fire as Saban, Cowher, Carroll or even Hoodie. You don't see them patting shoulders and giving cliche speeches when something doesn't go right. I'm pretty sure they are all damn good coaches and their teams are great. Cowher obviously isn't coaching, but you should get what I mean. We need something like that. 

[BOTT]

18 minutes ago, Gavin said:

 

Josh Mcdaniels

Hue Jackson

I also actually like Mike Pettine

Pat Shurmur

Rick Dennison

Greg Roman

 

 

Pat Shurmur?  Why?

[RockThatBlue]

1 hour ago, MartinPeterson said:

No decent HC will come here while Grigson is in place. Grigson needs to be fired first and a new GM appointed who can choose the HC.

I get your point but I really doubt Grigson will be back.

[Gavin]

Just now, BOTT said:

Pat Shurmur?  Why?

Doesn't necessarily have to be as a HC, Could be just if we move on from Chud as O Cordinator, He has HC experience, Comes from a WCO scheme, Zone blocking scheme. Not my first choice of that group but I think options will be limited. Also I don't think Pagano is the big problem

[Colts_Fan12]

I like

 

HC John Harbaugh, Hugh Jackson 

 

OC Mike McCoy

 

DC Mike Pettine, Ray Horton 

[lennymoore24]

I think Darrell Bevell could be good.  Her is a good play caller and innovative on offense. Does make him a good HC, but I like what he does.  Maybe they can get Bevell and a Seahawks head of pro personnel.

[RollerColt]

I've got a bad feeling about this...

[Dudley Smith]

John Harbaugh is a no brainer if he Ravens were crazy enough to let him go. He would easily be the top choice. Problem is the Ravens aren't that dumb.

 

Unless something crazy happens and John Harbaugh is available, I'd like Cowher. Proven track record and a no nonsense coach. Not sure what his interest level is. McDaniels is kind of intriguing, but his previous HC experience makes me nervous.

[buccolts]

7 minutes ago, RollerColt said:

I've got a bad feeling about this...

 

Yeah, I certainly think we can upgrade from Chuck.

But, worry when I see the actual names available.

[OffensivelyPC]

2 hours ago, Indyfan4life said:

??? 

I don't think you understand what I mean. I'd love to have someone with as much passion and fire as Saban, Cowher, Carroll or even Hoodie. You don't see them patting shoulders and giving cliche speeches when something doesn't go right. I'm pretty sure they are all damn good coaches and their teams are great. Cowher obviously isn't coaching, but you should get what I mean. We need something like that. 

No I understood you clearly. What I don't understand is why people think that because a guy is fiery and yells at people as opposed to whatever they may not like about a Pagano type, that somehow means he is a better coach. Belichick is no more "passionate" than Pagano, but he is clearly the better coach. How animated he is has nothing to do with coaching.

[grmasterb]

I've said this before, but forget the HC/GM all-in-one. It almost never works. Belichick is an extraordinary exception.

 

GM possibilities -- I'm not very knowledgeable about front office personnel for other teams. Two names that come to mind are Jimmy Raye (would be internal promotion) and Jim Popp (Montreal Alouettes, was considered last time).

 

HC -- Hue Jackson, Adam Gase (doesn't excite me), Greg Roman, Chud, Darrell Bevell. I don't understand folks' interest in Sean Payton, Josh McDaniels or Nick Saban. I don't believe Cowher or Gruden wish to leave their cushy network gigs. Polian was always a fan of Dom Capers, who may be a bit old and/or not interested in becoming a HC again.

[Bluefire4]

Give me Hugh Jackson and let him call plays and work with the offense. Get a new day coordinator that can Coach the defense better.