Andre Johnson is not good

[peytonmanning18]

He has been awful, not only is he not getting open and catching passes but he looked absolutely terrified last night when he was supposed to be blocking.  He looked scared of James Harrison and just let him run on by.  He's not gonna be here next year.

[ColtsLegacy]

It feels like he has checked out.

[SOMDColtsfan]

Just let him come up big again against the Texans and I`ll forgive him and all will be forgotten!

[CR91]

im telling you its the curse of the 81

[MB-ColtsFan]

He has missed a couple gimmies that I have seen during the course of the season, but honestly, I have seen multiple times when he is wide open and the pass is thrown behind him or over his head.

Yeah, he may have checked out, but he may also just be frustrated at the lack of accurate balls thrown his way?  I dunno...just my view.

[jvan1973]

47 minutes ago, peytonmanning18 said:

He has been awful, not only is he not getting open and catching passes but he looked absolutely terrified last night when he was supposed to be blocking.  He looked scared of James Harrison and just let him run on by.  He's not gonna be here next year.

He was open several times last night.   Matt just couldn't get him the ball

[MTC]

I thought he had one of his better games last night... against a weak Steelers secondary. 

[grmasterb]

1 hour ago, CR91 said:

im telling you its the curse of the 81

Marcus Pollard wore it well.

[chad hugo]

Could it be that he's having a hard time learning the playbook ? I have no idea...

[SteelDragon]

Not sure why FA WRs can not work here in Indy. I thought for sure AJ would break the streak of ineptitude.

Grigs,  if he's here next year,  needs to give up on the WR experiments.  Just roll with the three young guys wr have already

[southwest1]

5 hours ago, ColtsLegacy said:

It feels like he has checked out.

I will never call into to question Andre Johnson's experience or professionalism as WR, but I do agree CL that his presence feels less dominant than I thought it would be for us this season. Is he overrated? Too old? or just not motivated enough? Who knows, but I thought his veteran leadership would pay off this year & I'd be lying if I didn't say I was disappointed.  

[NewColtsFan]

What an odd thread.

Not only did AJ have a couple of nice catches last night,  but Matt's first pass to AJ was a stinker.   AJ was wide open and if Matt had simply gotten the ball to him it was a walk-in touchdown.      But Matt didn't have his feet set and rushed the throw and it was off target.

So, on a night AJ has one of his better games for the Colts,  someone decides it's a good time to trash him.

What a strange fan base.......

 

[MPStack]

The good thing is he only cost 2.5mil in Dead money next season and the Colts will have 5mil freed up. I put T. Cole, R. Mathis and E. Walden on that list to and save some serious cap space.

[2006Coltsbestever]

14 minutes ago, MPStack said:

The good thing is he only cost 2.5mil in Dead money next season and the Colts will have 5mil freed up. I put T. Cole, R. Mathis and E. Walden on that list to and save some serious cap space.

We need to get younger when it comes to signing F. Agents moving forward, Football is a young mans game. I do like the Gore signing though as we needed that because we had no running game prior to this season. At least he gives 100% effort. I keep waiting for that 1 100 Yard game. I hope it comes this week.

[Mr.Debonair]

I wanted Brandon Marshall in the offseason. I'm still holding out good for AJ though 

[Defjamz26]

Yeah wasted signing. Should've just rolled with what we had in house. The best FA WR we had was Avery. But every year Grigs gets a FA WR, and every year they get outperformed by the talent we already have.

[RollerColt]

AJ's had some good moments throughout the season. I think his biggest contribution this year has been experience and leadership for some of the younger guys, sorta like Wayne. 

[CR91]

10 hours ago, grmasterb said:

Marcus Pollard wore it well.

 

yup then after him guys like bryan fletcher brody eldridge roy hall hank baskett DHB now andre

[pgt_rob]

Seems like every FA WR signing that the Colts make, they don't pan out too well. Wide receivers come to Indy to die.

[krunk]

6 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

What an odd thread.

Not only did AJ have a couple of nice catches last night,  but Matt's first pass to AJ was a stinker.   AJ was wide open and if Matt had simply gotten the ball to him it was a walk-in touchdown.      But Matt didn't have his feet set and rushed the throw and it was off target.

So, on a night AJ has one of his better games for the Colts,  someone decides it's a good time to trash him.

What a strange fan base.......

 

 

People are frustrated so they start picking random people to bash for no good reason.  It's been the culture of this forum for the entire season.  I honestly have a feeling that game would have been quite a bit different had Andrew played.  Andrew put up 35 points on those boys and was able to consistently put together drives last year when we played them and this was without any type of presence of a running game.  Gore was breaking off some nice runs against Pitt so combine that with Luck and the play action game and I think we wouldn't have major problems moving the ball.  I just don't respect Pittsburghs defense all that much.  

I'm not that scared to face Pitt again to be honest if we have all our boys on the O including a healthy Luck, Costanzo, Gore, and even Dorsett.  Biggest key against Pitt is you have to be able to sustain drives and put up points.  That team to me is built similar to how the Colts are built, which is explosive skill position players on the O and an average to mediocre defense.  Pittsburghs offense protects their defense, and if our offense operated this year the way we expected we would be saying the same thing about the Colts.  I just don't believe that what Luck did against Denver was a fluke, so I'm expecting the offense to heat up a good deal when he returns.

I think the offensive side of the football is really why we got blown out against Pitt.  The way this team is currently constructed you have to play good complimentary football.  Our defense is not strong enough to be left out on the field for multiple drives against a powerful offense, while our offense is not contributing anything.  I trust in our boys enough to know they will get you a good couple of stops for sure , but you can't leave them out there for long time periods with no contribution from the O. That was my largest concern when we played them.  I didn't see any evidence from Hasslebeck in any of our games to make me feel confident we could trade scores with Pitt.  I feel much better about our chances with Andrew in the saddle.

[2006Coltsbestever]

2 minutes ago, krunk said:

 

People are frustrated so they start picking random people to bash for no good reason.  It's been the culture of this forum for the entire season.  I honestly have a feeling that game would have been quite a bit different had Andrew played.  Andrew put up 35 points on those boys and was able to consistently put together drives last year when we played them and this was without any type of presence of a running game.  Gore was breaking off some nice runs against Pitt so combine that with Luck and the play action game and I think we wouldn't have major problems moving the ball.  I just don't respect Pittsburghs defense all that much.  

I'm not that scared to face Pitt again to be honest if we have all our boys on the O including a healthy Luck, Costanzo, Gore, and even Dorsett.  Biggest key against Pitt is you have to be able to sustain drives and put up points.  That team to me is built similar to how the Colts are built, which is explosive skill position players on the O and an average to mediocre defense.  Pittsburghs offense protects their defense, and if our offense operated this year the way we expected we would be saying the same thing about the Colts.  I just don't believe that what Luck did against Denver was a fluke, so I'm expecting the offense to heat up a good deal when he returns. I think the offensive side of the football is really why we got blown out against Pitt.  The way this team is currently constructed you have to play good complimentary football.  Our defense is not strong enough to be left out on the field for multiple drives against a powerful offense, while our offense is not contributing anything.  I trust in our boys enough to know they will get you a good couple of stops for sure , but you can't leave them out there for long time periods with no contribution from the O. That was my largest concern when we played them.  I didn't see any evidence from Hasslebeck in any of our games to make me feel confident we could trade scores with Pitt.  I feel much better about our chances with Andrew in the saddle.

We can match them point for point with Andrew I agree. If they play us again it will be here and we will have Andrew so I say bring it on!

[krunk]

2 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

We can match them point for point with Andrew I agree. If they play us again it will be here and we will have Andrew so I say bring it on!

 

That's what I say!  If we had Andrew and Gore was running like he was if Pitts offense wasn't producing anything we would have blown them out as well.  I think if we saw them a second time and we're able to run the football to chew clock along with being able to throw we'd have a great chance to win. Pittsburgh didn't show me enough evidence that they could stop either one, and I don't have much confidence that they could stop us certainly if we have all our boys back on the O.

 

[King Colt]

AJ is one player not playing well, the total absence of a running game and pass defense. The team is struggling and so go the players.

[krunk]

There's nothing wrong with AJ.  How about you throw him the ball when he's open and he is open on multiple occasions.  Oh and when you do throw it, please don't throw it in the dirt or some of the other types of bad throws when we've gone his way.   

[ColtStronger]

I guess I will say it until I'm blue in the face!  We can have as many Pro Bowl caliber WR as Grigson wants or thinks necessary, but it doesn't help us one bit if the OL can't block.  Dorsett isn't even out there and we can't get these guys big numbers.  So what does that tell you?  Instead of getting Andrew a full arsenal of weapons, why don't you focus on security for our franchise player?  Fact of the matter is the problem was never Hakeem Nicks, Andre Johnson, or even DHB (as we saw last night and this whole season), we have too much depth at WR, without taking care of business on the line.  Pretty simple, and I've said it for the last 3 years, so I'm sure it won't hurt to say it again   Perhaps 2016 will be the year Grigson brings in people who CAN stay healthy AND do their job!  Or perhaps we just get rid of Grigson, and find somebody who can comprehend the importance of the OL, and not just an arms race of weaponry for Luck

[ColtStronger]

32 minutes ago, krunk said:

There's nothing wrong with AJ.  How about you throw him the ball when he's open and he is open on multiple occasions.  Oh and when you do throw it, please don't throw it in the dirt or some of the other types of bad throws when we've gone his way.   

If I'm not mistaken, same as what Nicks went through.  Nicks received few passes, with the majority being bad passes.  When they were on target, he had a few nice catches, and only put together a couple good games.  For being a 4th WR (AJ's snaps have decreased not that he's 4th but...), that's about as good as you're gonna get, if this is how you use these players! 

Let's hope the GM has learned after the 3rd go 'round.  Perhaps we can let a talented WR go, and use that money on a C T or G

[krunk]

9 minutes ago, ColtStronger said:

If I'm not mistaken, same as what Nicks went through.  Nicks received few passes, with the majority being bad passes.  When they were on target, he had a few nice catches, and only put together a couple good games.  For being a 4th WR (AJ's snaps have decreased not that he's 4th but...), that's about as good as you're gonna get, if this is how you use these players! 

Let's hope the GM has learned after the 3rd go 'round.  Perhaps we can let a talented WR go, and use that money on a C T or G

 

If we see Pitt again, to me it looked like we had some good mismatches out there with Andre Johnson that we failed to exploit enough.  The guy was open, but the execution from the qb was bad.

[LJpalmbeacher2]

IMO, AJ can still play. But he has lost a step or two and because of that has trouble getting separation.

And our QB play this season has not a great job of delivering the ball on time and accurate throws in tight coverage.

When Dorsett comes back AJ  should mostly be our #4 receiver.

[Ehrman.Dutton.Cook.Barnes]

ColtStronger, you got it right.  Grigson has wasted cap money on a bunch of re-treads, e.g Herremans, Francois,Johnson, Cole, he has made bad, bad draft choices, e.g. T-Rich, B Werner, Dorsett instead of an O or D linemen.  He has to go if we have any chance of exploiting the talent that we do have because he just is out of touch with the real needs of the team.

[krunk]

We just need to keep on battling, get the South wrapped up and I see some meat on the bone in the playoffs.  I think New England is probably going to mess around and lose Home Field Advantage.  I haven't looked at all the travel scenarios, but I got no problems at all if we had to travel to Denver.  I'll take that all day long.  I can deal with having K.C. as a first round opponent.  Pitt is about the only team in these playoffs that would be a really hard win.  Everybody else I believe we can certainly pull out a W. 

[ColtsLegacy]

8 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

What an odd thread.

Not only did AJ have a couple of nice catches last night,  but Matt's first pass to AJ was a stinker.   AJ was wide open and if Matt had simply gotten the ball to him it was a walk-in touchdown.      But Matt didn't have his feet set and rushed the throw and it was off target.

So, on a night AJ has one of his better games for the Colts,  someone decides it's a good time to trash him.

What a strange fan base.......

 

 

The fact that a 2 reception 44 yard game is "one of his better games" kind of says it all (yes, he should have had a TD on the first drive).

[CR91]

2 hours ago, pgt_rob said:

Seems like every FA WR signing that the Colts make, they don't pan out too well. Wide receivers come to Indy to die.

 

I thought avery was pretty good

[JColts72]

Bey, Nicks, Johnson all FA signings where they just go bust as Colts. Johnson had bigger numbers with Houston. Not one fan here cannot say they did not think during the Spring he would have put up HUGE as Trump would say, even better numbers with Luck at the helm.

[JColts72]

11 hours ago, chad hugo said:

Could it be that he's having a hard time learning the playbook ? I have no idea...

If one cannot learn the playbook by now, don't even bother being on the team. He just looks so SLOW.

[chad hugo]

43 minutes ago, Jcolt72 said:

If one cannot learn the playbook by now, don't even bother being on the team. He just looks so SLOW.

True, and he's signed for the next 2 years believe...another bad decision by grigson

[grmasterb]

4 hours ago, CR91 said:

 

yup then after him guys like bryan fletcher brody eldridge roy hall hank baskett DHB now andre

Bryan Fletcher -- The Suggestion Box. How can we not have fond memories??

[Horse Shoe Heaven]

15 hours ago, MB-ColtsFan said:

He has missed a couple gimmies that I have seen during the course of the season, but honestly, I have seen multiple times when he is wide open and the pass is thrown behind him or over his head.

Yeah, he may have checked out, but he may also just be frustrated at the lack of accurate balls thrown his way?  I dunno...just my view.

This is true, the guy is use to being the man & it seems to me we don't have not a great idea on how to utilize him properly. JMO

[jskinnz]

12 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

What an odd thread.

Not only did AJ have a couple of nice catches last night,  but Matt's first pass to AJ was a stinker.   AJ was wide open and if Matt had simply gotten the ball to him it was a walk-in touchdown.      But Matt didn't have his feet set and rushed the throw and it was off target.

So, on a night AJ has one of his better games for the Colts,  someone decides it's a good time to trash him.

What a strange fan base.......

 

 

In one perfect summation, you just nailed the OP.  Strange thread indeed.

[peytonmanning18]

3 minutes ago, jskinnz said:

 

In one perfect summation, you just nailed the OP.  Strange thread indeed.

 

I watched him let James Harrison walk right around him untouched and blow up a play in the backfield ages times because AJ was afraid to get in his way.  AJ has been awful and to say anything to the contrary is flat out wrong.

[Jason_]

12 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

What an odd thread.

Not only did AJ have a couple of nice catches last night,  but Matt's first pass to AJ was a stinker.   AJ was wide open and if Matt had simply gotten the ball to him it was a walk-in touchdown.      But Matt didn't have his feet set and rushed the throw and it was off target.

So, on a night AJ has one of his better games for the Colts,  someone decides it's a good time to trash him.

What a strange fan base.......

 

have you seen some of the other threads started by same OP?  I'll just say...this one shouldn't have come as much of a surprise, considering. lol