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I like Fleener, I really do, but I still think he plays rather soft and doesn't dominate his matchups as you would expect of someone his size. He doesn't look for contact and that's a quality I like out of TE's. Like Doyle, dude doesn't shy away from contact. 

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I like Fleener, I really do, but I still think he plays rather soft and doesn't dominate his matchups as you would expect of someone his size. He doesn't look for contact and that's a quality I like out of TE's. Like Doyle, dude doesn't shy away from contact.

Doyle doesn't look for contact.....he can't avoid it.

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I didn't miss anything No matter how well or poor Fleener plays you always have something negative to say. Who cares if he don't try and run over people. As long as he makes catches and moves the chains that is all that matters.

Ok. So having an opinion is a problem? Guess I didn't give him a compliment in my post, but ok.

You win man, you win

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Didn't get to see the game, but I'm hoping with Chud, he uses Fleener to create mismatches which could help the pass game.  With his speed and size, I would love to see Fleener in the slot more forcing the defense to play a safety on him straight up or a LB.  With his speed, he could cause some havoc on the defense.

 

He definitely grown and deserve to be resigned.

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Ok. So having an opinion is a problem? Guess I didn't give him a compliment in my post, but ok.

You win man, you win

It's not a matter of win. But it don't matter, Fleener has been here as long as Luck and you have yet to have a positive word to say about him. But that is your personality so it comes as no surprise. Carry on.

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Didn't get to see the game, but I'm hoping with Chud, he uses Fleener to create mismatches which could help the pass game. With his speed and size, I would love to see Fleener in the slot more forcing the defense to play a safety on him straight up or a LB. With his speed, he could cause some havoc on the defense.

He definitely grown and deserve to be resigned.

TE's were heavily featured. It was a real balanced attack. The only person who didn't do anything really was Andre Johnson

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THIS. I love Jack Doyle and think he provides a lot of value to this team, but let's not act like the guy is a great athlete.

Not bad for a third tightend!  Honestly none of the Colts tightends are as good as say Gronk but as a whole we might have the best unit of them in the NFL. 

 

The biggest change I noticed today in the offense outside of execution and a better job mixing up the play calls was a focus on the tightends in the passing game.  A third of Luck's passes went their way today.  I think that's a weapon we are going to see a lot more of. 

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I like Fleener, I really do, but I still think he plays rather soft and doesn't dominate his matchups as you would expect of someone his size. He doesn't look for contact and that's a quality I like out of TE's. Like Doyle, dude doesn't shy away from contact.

Doyle's block last year on an onside kick...I can't remember for the life of me what team it was but it was like a a frickin' car accident. After that I knew that guy likes to be physical

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What's wrong with Allen btw. Fleener and Allen I thought was gonna be the next best TE duo in the league for a long time. Allen regressed a lot after injuries. Allen seems not to be able to make those tough catches anymore or block all that well. While Fleener is getting better I don't think he is going to get top dollar with the production he has had.

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Its not either or...we'll sign both

 

At this point it comes down to asking price. Allen has been hurt a lot and he's been straight up not that good when he's been on the field so far this season. There's definitely a lot of talent there but wouldn't it be nice to use that extra cash as part of the contract to find a DB, Edge rusher, or O-lineman? Again, depends on what he'd be willing to sign for, he certainly hasn't earned a big contract this season.

 

Fleener however, has proven to be solid. 

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I doubt it. Why sign Allen? Keep Doyle for cheap and mold one of the young TE's. We have. The money we'd use on Allen could be use to replace Greg Toler cause he is just awful

Totally agree. At this point Allen has regressed from his great rookie year. Doyle and Fleener, plus another blocking TE, and you have a solid, durable group, with $ saved in the process.  Use that extra money to get Vontae a better partner in the D backfield together with some semblance of a pass rush and suddenly the D is one to be reckoned with.

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