Punt play fail (merge)

[deedub75]

A lame duck coach desperately trying to save his job.

[jayt327]

I think the patriots were in the colts headsets and called the play. Explains the reason why nobody knew what the hell was going on lol

[jabbanobadda]

This coaching staff is not up to the challenge of the NFL. Pee wee is more their speed.

[chad hugo]

We are the laughing stock of the NFL right now. Even the jags are questioning our plays...

[Mr.Debonair]

I don't understand why people are acting as if its the worst play ever or something, plays like these have happened before

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-tqLG__Al4

Tonight was the worst play call I HAVE SEEN. Washington was out of that game, we were still in it tonight

[Smurphy1]

Its on Griff. He should never have snapped it. Ok you tried an unusual call to try and get them to waste a time out. It didn't work take your 5 yard delay of game and punt but that was never meant to be snapped.

[James Harden]

Deon Sanders just said it on NFL Network. No one was suppose to snap the ball. The plan was to draw the Defense Offside. Someone on the Defense near Griff said "Hut-Hut" and then he hike the ball. Griff got played like a fool. 

[RockThatBlue]

Its on Griff. He should never have snapped it. Ok you tried an unusual call to try and get them to waste a time out. It didn't work take your 5 yard delay of game and punt but that was never meant to be snapped.

I don't blame Griff for that. I get he's not supposed to snap the ball, but why on Gods earth did the coaches call that? If you want to draw them offsides KEEP the offense on the field.

[Colttodd18]

So if we wanted to draw them offsides, wouldn't you want Luck under center with his great hard count?

[SP_21]

Really disappointed. Not in the team, besides a few inexplicable plays they did well, but in some of these "fans". We played our best game all season and still people fail to see anything positive. Sure we have problems but this is a game we can build off of. End rant

[Flash7]

That is a terrible excuse. Terrible.

If that was the plan, why wouldn't we send out Luck and his hard count?

If it was a play that we were going to run of everyone followed the formation it was still an entirely illegal formation and would have been called back.

There is no excuse for whatever that was, whether it was supposed to be snapped or not.

Pagano just said that they wanted to line up and see if they could have confused NE. Depending on NE's formation, they would've snapped the ball and ran the play, otherwise, they wanted to try to draw the defense off side. He said the ball should not have been snapped and they would've just taken the delay of game.

 

It was a trick play, (horrible play call in that situation) thus no need for Luck and his hard count. Everyone would've seen that coming. Also, his hard count did not draw anyone off side all night.

[Malakai432]

I heard pagano even asked why we snapped it. Isn't it a penalty either way? Boy I'm lost.

 

Pagano seemed to take responsibility for it in the post game interview.

 

I would assume just punt the ball, try to draw them offside, or go for it.

[RockThatBlue]

Pagano just said that they wanted to line up and see if they could have confused NE. Depending on NE's formation, they would've snapped the ball and ran the play, however, they wanted to try to draw the defense off side if the defense was in good position. He said the ball should not have been snapped and they would've just taken the delay of game.

It was a trick play, (horrible play call in that situation) thus no need for Luck and his hard count. Everyone would've seen that coming. Also, his hard count did not draw anyone off side all night.

I'd rather have Luck try to draw them offsides than Griff Whalen. But that's just me.

[TKnight24]

Pagano on the actual snap of the fake punt: “It was a communication breakdown…It’s on me. It’s not on those players."

— Kevin Bowen (@KBowenColts)

October 19, 2015

Pagano on the actual snap of the fake punt: “It was a communication breakdown…It’s on me. It’s not on those players."

[snkdy]

Pagano blamed himself in the press conference.

[TKnight24]

Pagano on the fake punt: “I take responsibility there." The idea was to shift so they were misaligned.

— Kevin Bowen (@KBowenColts)

October 19, 2015

Pagano on the fake punt: “I take responsibility there." The idea was to shift so they were misaligned.

[TKnight24]

Pagano says he didn’t do a good enough job of coaching it during the week. A miscommunication between Whalen/Anderson on the snap.

— Kevin Bowen (@KBowenColts)

October 19, 2015

Pagano says he didn’t do a good enough job of coaching it during the week. A miscommunication between Whalen/Anderson on the snap.

[Flash7]

I'd rather have Luck try to draw them offsides than Griff Whalen. But that's just me.

I'd rather they just punt in that situation. Luck had plenty of opportunities to draw NE off sides, without any success. NE is too well coached to fall for a 4th down hard count. It's too obvious. Just punt and play smart football.

[John Waylon]

Pagano just said that they wanted to line up and see if they could have confused NE. Depending on NE's formation, they would've snapped the ball and ran the play, however, they wanted to try to draw the defense off side if the defense was in good position. He said the ball should not have been snapped and they would've just taken the delay of game.

It was a trick play, (horrible play call in that situation) thus no need for Luck and his hard count. Everyone would've seen that coming. Also, his hard count did not draw anyone off side all night.

Yeah, that answer does not satisfy me.

We'd already demonstrated that we would go for it on 4th down so they definitely would have been a little more jumpy than usual about it.

If Chuck had his heart set on trying to draw them offsides with the punting unit, why not actually leave them in formation instead of going into something that was a complete joke of a formation by us?

[Flash7]

Yeah, that answer does not satisfy me.

We'd already demonstrated that we would go for it on 4th down so they definitely would have been a little more jumpy than usual about it.

If Chuck had his heart set on trying to draw them offsides with the punting unit, why not actually leave them in formation instead of going into something that was a complete joke of a formation by us?

It was a stupid play with a stupid result. I'm just explaining the thought process that went into it.

 

I'm already on record saying they should have just punted the ball and played smart football. I don't think a 4th down hard count by Luck would've achieved anything other than a delay of game. That's just my opinion.

[Lucky Colts Fan]

That play really deflated our chances of winning...

[mintor]

Cameras caught Pagano wondering saying "WHY'D YOU SNAP THAT" to Whalen:

[John Waylon]

It was a stupid play with a stupid result. I'm just explaining the thought process that went into it.

I'm already on record saying they should have just punted the ball and played smart football. I don't think a 4th down hard count by Luck would've achieved anything other than a delay of game. That's just my opinion.

I don't either, but given the choice between letting Luck try to do it in an offensive formation, and Whalen and whoever else was back there with him, give me Luck and an offensive formation every time. Even the punt formation had a better chance to draw them off.

That play was dead on arrival, and why they even put it in the game plan is beyond me.

[ReMeDy]

I don't understand why people are acting as if its the worst play ever or something, plays like these have happened before

 

 

That's definitely bad, but I believe ours is worse. We committed to a trick 4th down play in a closely contested game when we had solid momentum, and what's worse, our failure gave Brady excellent field position, and eventually, a TD. Washington attempted their trick play at the end of the half down by a lot of points -- they had nothing to lose, other than 3 pts.

[McGrit]

Pagano is just too dumb to HC in this league. He shows this multiple times every game. Maybe this will wake more of you up to this fact.

[azcolt]

This play cost us any chance at winning. This ought to be the last straw for Pagano. Nice guy but dumb as dirt.

[indyspeed13]

Its on Griff. He should never have snapped it. Ok you tried an unusual call to try and get them to waste a time out. It didn't work take your 5 yard delay of game and punt but that was never meant to be snapped.

NO SORRY I DISAGREE Michael Irvin said it best Pagano:"why did you snap that?"

WHY DID YOU PUT HIM IN THE POSITION TO SNAP IT

the coaches need 2 go like right now

coming from somebody whos defended these coaches for years

[chrisfarley]

Whalen for snapping it. You absolutely can't snap that under any circumstances unless you a) have favourable numbers, b) have someone offside.

illegal formation, wouldn't have mattered.  Terrible design.  you don't run that play in that situation against that team within striking distance and with that other coach and qb on the other team.  You just don't do that.  

[bababooey]

So to summarize: Pagano took the blame for the play but did not explain why it was in the playbook or used in that situation.

[bap1331]

They talked to Pat McAfee. He said the players were in the wrong formation and didnt know why they did what they did.

[jvan1973]

So to summarize: Pagano took the blame for the play but did not explain why it was in the playbook or used in that situation.

Actually he did explain that. Watch the news conference

[indyspeed13]

omg pagano took responsibility for that ridiculous excuse of a play disaster that was an illegal formation anyway oh well everythings fine now I guess. I have defended this coaching staff for years  NOT ANYMORE they need to go period ALL of them

[twfish]

Really disappointed. Not in the team, besides a few inexplicable plays they did well, but in some of these "fans". We played our best game all season and still people fail to see anything positive. Sure we have problems but this is a game we can build off of. End rant

exactly. A team everyone had losing in a blow out fashion yet we are 1 touchdown away from beating an incredible team and it's fire everyone. I really hate this forum this year it's nothing but fire everyone, rebuild the team there's not a whole lot of in depth looks like there has been in years before. I guess everyone was so high on basically a 4th year team making it to the superbowl that all they can do is lose hope and if that's the case then they aren't really fans just band wagoners.

[bababooey]

Actually he did explain that. Watch the news conference

Some of us are in bed, I'm just checking Twitter and PFT reported he took the blame but did not explain why they did something so stupid.

[jvan1973]

Some of us are in bed, I'm just checking Twitter and PFT reported he took the blame but did not explain why they did something so stupid.

He explained the reasoning behind it

[bababooey]

He explained the reasoning behind it

Can you fill me in, minus the "failure to communicate"? Again, in bed and only reading Twitter and that's all I see.

[jvan1973]

Can you fill me in, minus the "failure to communicate"? Again, in bed and only reading Twitter and that's all I see.

The idea was to try and catch them off guard. Hoping to get favorable numbers over griff. Obviously that didn't occur. If they didn't get the numbers they wanted griff wasnt supposed to snap it. Take the delay and punt

[bababooey]

The idea was to try and catch them off guard. Hoping to get favorable numbers over griff. Obviously that didn't occur. If they didn't get the numbers they wanted griff wasnt supposed to snap it. Take the delay and punt

Thank you for explaining. That sounds like it would hurt us more than it would them by just setting up that way. Probably should have just had Luck w a hard count and then call timeout or take the delay. How they thought only one guy would lineup on Griff in that situation is beyond me.

[jvan1973]

Thank you for explaining. That sounds like it would hurt us more than it would them by just setting up that way. Probably should have just had Luck w a hard count and then call timeout or take the delay. How they thought only one guy would lineup on Griff in that situation is beyond me.

Yeah, I would have went with luck and the hard count as well

[indyspeed13]

we made pete carrols call in the super bowl look brilliant