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Yeah anyone saying this game was on Shane is an * and I say that as an understatement. AR is terrible. Simple as that, stop defending him. There’s 50 sec. Left about before half, you try to score. You don’t kneel it and we had timeouts. AR just can’t throw. Keep him play that’s fine, but he will not be our franchise quarterback. You can’t fix this type of bad lmao

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Just now, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

We are trying to take Josh Allen traits and turn him into Brady 

 

I don't know what they are trying to do, honestly.  I've never seen an offense with worse rhythm.  

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Unless we see a Josh Allen type turnaround in AR, which is something that happens very rarely in this league. I believe we are finally witnessing the beginning of the end for Ballard and company. This team needed a full reset 3 years ago

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1 minute ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

When you have a young player you have to simplify things and let them do what they do best.

He’s making bad decisions and missing regular throws that mediocre QBs have to make.

 

Both Lamar Jackson and Cam Newton could make those types of throws with relative ease. Jackson has shown pretty good decision making.

 

AR is likely given multiple options. And him choosing to bomb it is mind boggling. 

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1 minute ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

When you have a young player you have to simplify things and let them do what they do best.

You can’t simply things with him. He can’t throw stop spilling nonsense. The simple things are the check downs and short passes… he can’t throw cuz he’s inaccurate. What don’t you get?

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1 hour ago, AKB said:

coaching is such a huge issue, that Minshew got a chance for a starting job, and Flacco instantly can come in and connect with players. 

 

As soon as AR comes back to start we go back to inconsistent ugly football 

 

AR is the issue --> and Ballard is the guy responsible.

How come the play calls don't look the same with Minshew, Flacco and AR though? It's not like Steichen is calling a bunch of run plays for our QB. Meanwhile AR's ADOT is off the charts while Flacco's is just fine.

 

There's NO DOUBT AR is bungling it right now, but to expect anything more is incredibly ignorant, honestly. The real issue is Steichen is bungling it. He's doing NOTHING to help AR.

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1 minute ago, bluebombers87 said:

He’s making bad decisions and missing regular throws that mediocre QBs have to make.

 

Both Lamar Jackson and Cam Newton could make those types of throws with relative ease. Jackson has shown pretty good decision making.

 

AR is likely given multiple options. And him choosing to bomb it is mind boggling. 

Not enough people understand route concepts. When AR throws deep, it's not because Steichen told him to. 

 

Steichen calls a play with several routes. Most likely, they are short, intermediate, and deep. AR chooses the deep passes because they are easy reads. He has trouble making reads closer to the LOS because there are more defenders there.

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1 minute ago, Solid84 said:

How come the play calls don't look the same with Minshew, Flacco and AR though? It's not like Steichen is calling a bunch of run plays for our QB. Meanwhile AR's ADOT is off the charts while Flacco's is just fine.

 

There's NO DOUBT AR is bungling it right now, but to expect anything more is incredibly ignorant, honestly. The real issue is Steichen is bungling it. He's doing NOTHING to help AR.

Minshew/Flacco playcalling could be a matter of capability. He knows two things, teams are going to force AR to throw it, and AR doesn’t have the capability to throw it at a high level of success.

 

We can blame Steichen, but he’s been given someone who has regressed significantly across the board.

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2 minutes ago, Flash7 said:

Not enough people understand route concepts. When AR throws deep, it's not because Steichen told him to. 

 

Steichen calls a play with several routes. Most likely, they are short, intermediate, and deep. AR chooses the deep passes because they are easy reads. He has trouble making reads closer to the LOS because there are more defenders there.

This. If AR isn’t being given options then it’s even worse than I thought.

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Just now, bluebombers87 said:

Minshew/Flacco playcalling could be a matter of capability. He knows two things, teams are going to force AR to throw it, and AR doesn’t have the capability to throw it at a high level of success.

 

We can blame Steichen, but he’s been given someone who has regressed significantly across the board.

Colts have him and JT.  No excuse to throw it deep every play. This run game should be close to unstoppable. Steichen refuses and keeps making him a pocket passer

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5 minutes ago, Solid84 said:

How come the play calls don't look the same with Minshew, Flacco and AR though? It's not like Steichen is calling a bunch of run plays for our QB. Meanwhile AR's ADOT is off the charts while Flacco's is just fine.

 

There's NO DOUBT AR is bungling it right now, but to expect anything more is incredibly ignorant, honestly. The real issue is Steichen is bungling it. He's doing NOTHING to help AR.

what we saw today is basically the same offense for Flacco, and steichen is on record, recently, in an interview stating he doesn't change much, if at all for the 2 QBs. Obviously the two designed run plays don't get called, but instead are probably swapped out for a similar play stretching width wise. 

 

regardless, he's on record saying the offenses are basically the same, and today looked like an offense they'd run for flacco. the issue is all the missed passes and dropped ones that did hit

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8 minutes ago, Solid84 said:

How come the play calls don't look the same with Minshew, Flacco and AR though? It's not like Steichen is calling a bunch of run plays for our QB. Meanwhile AR's ADOT is off the charts while Flacco's is just fine.

 

There's NO DOUBT AR is bungling it right now, but to expect anything more is incredibly ignorant, honestly. The real issue is Steichen is bungling it. He's doing NOTHING to help AR.

AR is having difficulty connecting on short passes. 

 

AR is having difficulty connecting on intermediate passes.

 

AR gets injured when he runs, so Steichen cannot let him run regularly.

 

MOST of the success AR has had is because of the deep ball.

 

What is Steichen supposed to do? AR has been so bad that no matter what Steichen calls, it's been ugly.

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Just now, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Colts have him and JT.  No excuse to throw it deep every play. This run game should be close to unstoppable. Steichen refuses and keeps making him a pocket passer

Teams are selling out to stop the run. They’re daring him to throw.

 

And we’ve said it multiple times now so I’m assuming you’re being willfully ignorant, QBs are given multiple route options. If it’s going deep, likely it’s cuz AR wants to. If he’s being only given one option, then AR is worse off than previously thought.

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I get it this is a Colts FAN board and there is a whole lot of people wearing blue colored shades in here. But I can guarantee you nobody outside of Colts country today is saying that AR will be fine its all Shanes fault lol

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I agree Steichen had some extremely stupid play calls  especially at the end of the first half but remember the Texans had 3 timeouts and we couldn't just "run the clock out" as many of you have commented. 

AR is horrible in every way and no one has addressed the elephant in the room and that was the tapping the helmet and coming out of the game because he was winded, are you f#c*ing kidding me! We had to bring Flacco in cold on an important 3rd down.  This is pro football not flag football and you don't come out as QB because you're a little tired. What about being the greatest athlete ever in the combo....nonsense. He's no player that's for sure. We now have to look for another QB and we've wasted JT's career as we did Shaquille Leonard...this crap is getting old and we need another Pagano reset, get rid of everybody and start over. 

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5 minutes ago, Flash7 said:

AR is having difficulty connecting on short passes. 

 

AR is having difficulty connecting on intermediate passes.

 

AR gets injured when he runs, so Steichen cannot let him run regularly.

 

What is Steichen supposed to do? AR has been so bad that no matter what Steichen calls, it's been ugly.

This is a factual post. 
 

Colts at 4-4 is absolutely a miracle coaching job by Shane. He is saddled with the worst QB in NFL history 

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Just now, AKB said:

JT should be the focal point of our offense. not AR

They should both be in the run game. If JT is the inky one running it’s easy to stop. 

1 minute ago, tncoltsfan57 said:

I agree Steichen had some extremely stupid play calls  especially at the end of the first half but remember the Texans had 3 timeouts and we couldn't just "run the clock out" as many of you have commented. 

AR is horrible in every way and no one has addressed the elephant in the room and that was the tapping the helmet and coming out of the game because he was winded, are you f#c*ing kidding me! We had to bring Flacco in cold on an important 3rd down.  This is pro football not flag football and you don't come out as QB because you're a little tired. What about being the greatest athlete ever in the combo....nonsense. He's no player that's for sure. We now have to look for another QB and we've wasted JT's career as we did Shaquille Leonard...this crap is getting old and we need another Pagano reset, get rid of everybody and start over. 

Then hand it off

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6 minutes ago, bluebombers87 said:

Teams are selling out to stop the run. They’re daring him to throw.

 

And we’ve said it multiple times now so I’m assuming you’re being willfully ignorant, QBs are given multiple route options. If it’s going deep, likely it’s cuz AR wants to. If he’s being only given one option, then AR is worse off than previously thought.

When you have JT and AR teams should not be able to do that. Steichen is not leaning into it.

8 minutes ago, Flash7 said:

AR is having difficulty connecting on short passes. 

 

AR is having difficulty connecting on intermediate passes.

 

AR gets injured when he runs, so Steichen cannot let him run regularly.

 

MOST of the success AR has had is because of the deep ball.

 

What is Steichen supposed to do? AR has been so bad that no matter what Steichen calls, it's been ugly.

There were not many short or intermediate. They were mostly bombs

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9 minutes ago, AKB said:

what we saw today is basically the same offense for Flacco, and steichen is on record, recently, in an interview stating he doesn't change much, if at all for the 2 QBs. Obviously the two designed run plays don't get called, but instead are probably swapped out for a similar play stretching width wise. 

 

regardless, he's on record saying the offenses are basically the same, and today looked like an offense they'd run for flacco. the issue is all the missed passes and dropped ones that did hit

If that’s the case that is 100% on Steichen. They aren’t the same QB

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1 hour ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Basic coaching. You don’t throw the ball with at your pen five yard line with little time left. Especially when you get the ball back in second.

Basic QBing, you don't throw into coverage in that same situation.   AR could have thrown the ball away if nothing is open.   Or better yet run and try to get something and let the clock run out.   SS was not good today,  but the interception is on the QB.  It really sucks because the defense came to play today.   

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2 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

When you have JT and AR teams should not be able to do that. Steichen is not leaning into it.

There were not many short or intermediate. They were mostly bombs

So you actually think Steichen is calling for plays that only have bombs? No route combinations. Please do answer this question.

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21 minutes ago, tweezy32 said:

Yeah anyone saying this game was on Shane is an * and I say that as an understatement. AR is trash. Terrible. Simple as that, stop defending him. There’s 50 sec. Left about before half, you try to score. You don’t kneel it and we had timeouts. AR just can’t throw. Keep him play that’s fine, but he will not be our franchise quarterback. You can’t fix this type of bad lmao

On 3rd down there were 38 seconds left, take a knee, if they call timeout you punt. 

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3 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

When you have JT and AR teams should not be able to do that. Steichen is not leaning into it.

There were not many short or intermediate. They were mostly bombs

He threw the bombs.  There were other options

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24 minutes ago, tweezy32 said:

Yeah anyone saying this game was on Shane is an * and I say that as an understatement. AR is trash. Terrible. Simple as that, stop defending him. There’s 50 sec. Left about before half, you try to score. You don’t kneel it and we had timeouts. AR just can’t throw. Keep him play that’s fine, but he will not be our franchise quarterback. You can’t fix this type of bad lmao

So if you feel that way you don’t blame the coach whose game plan was to put the game in AR’s hands at all?  AR is clearly to blame for today too but Shane is as well.  It’s not just one person’s fault.

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9 minutes ago, bluebombers87 said:

Teams are selling out to stop the run. They’re daring him to throw.

 

And we’ve said it multiple times now so I’m assuming you’re being willfully ignorant, QBs are given multiple route options. If it’s going deep, likely it’s cuz AR wants to. If he’s being only given one option, then AR is worse off than previously thought.


yet we rushed for 160 yards on 26 carries (6.3 average) so maybe you’re the one being stubborn and “willfully ignorant” eh? 

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1 minute ago, jvan1973 said:

Basic QBing, you don't throw into coverage in that same situation.   AR could have thrown the ball away if nothing is open.   Or better yet run and try to get something and let the clock run out.   SS was not good today,  but the interception is on the QB.  It really sucks because the defense came to play today.   

Any high school coach would have told his QB to hand it off or take a knee. Steichen answer to this in his presser was inexcusable.

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2 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

If that’s the case that is 100% on Steichen. They aren’t the same QB

they aren't that different either, are they Chloe? two athletic QBs, of which they didn't know what they had in Willis, and they approached it like he wouldn't be that great at passing. 

 

how are you not connecting the dots? 

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Yeah, I'm officially checked out at this point. I thought last year was the worst possible scenario with Richardson being out for the year and missing the playoffs by one game going 9-8, but this is even worse. We are 4-4 (a deceptive 4-4), we probably won't buy or sell at this point, and now AR is proving to be a bust. I was rooting for AR to succeed as it was the best possible scenario for everyone and that meant we would finally start making the playoffs, but it's obvious he's a bust at this point. It's just embarrassing.

 

I'm just hoping at this point we get humiliated the rest of the year by our opponents, and Irsay decides to clean house. That's our only hope at this point. No one cares between Ballard, Steichen, and AR.

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