azcolt Posted 9 hours ago Share Posted 9 hours ago NFL.com stats show Bryce Young dead last in qb Rating. AR is just above him, which proves we don’t have the worst qb in the NFL yet. Maybe after the Steelers get done with him, but not yet. Too bad AR isn’t an MLB relief pitcher. Imagine the fear he would strike in hitters with a 100+ mph fastball going god knows where. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a06cc Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago We should’ve sat him last season, but we’re here now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Miller Posted 5 hours ago Share Posted 5 hours ago Maybe Flacco will be our Andy Dalton if/when we lose enough games. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvan1973 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 1 hour ago, Patrick Miller said: Maybe Flacco will be our Andy Dalton if/when we lose enough games. Flacco isn't playing unless AR gets hurt 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restinpeacesweetchloe Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago AR Is not overwhelmed like Young. You can see the difference. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JColts72 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago (edited) Young is just too small and weak to be QB. AR can covert to be a top TE once the QB experiment fails. Bert Jones at his current age probably be a more accurate passer. Edited 3 hours ago by JColts72 Add 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Hammonds Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 7 minutes ago, JColts72 said: Young is just too small and weak to be QB. AR can covert to be a top TE once the QB experiment fails. Bert Jones at his current age probably be a more accurate passer. No joke. That's one thing we can say is very, Very, VERY different between the two guys. Bryce Young looks like a 10 year old out there playing with grown a___ men. Richardson looks like a tight end playing quarterback. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twfish Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago AR sees the defense pretty well, his foot work is what’s killing him. He’s not showing the moment is to big for him like Young is. He simply needs to play more. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR91 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Some fans have never dealt with a rookie QB and it clearly shows. Imagine if the bills were as impatient as some fans here are. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColts8818 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago I was talking the game over with my buddy who is a Bears fan and he brought up a good point. When you are in high school your best athlete plays QB. It’s not really until you get to college that they really start working on mechanics and footwork. Richardson has had what 20 starts since high school? He hasn’t learned it yet and is still leaning on his being an athlete to get by. The problem is in the NFL he’s not that significantly better than the other athletes to get by on that alone. So it’s going to take time for him to learn it which as much as Colts fans don’t want to hear this anymore means requiring patience. However long it took a guy like Manning, Luck, or Flacco to figure it out it’s probably going to take him longer and we know from Flacco’s own mouth it took him 20 games in the NFL to figure it out and that was with a lot of college starts. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BProland85 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 2 hours ago, a06cc said: We should’ve sat him last season, but we’re here now He basically did sit last year. He was on the sidelines for 3/4ths of the season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restinpeacesweetchloe Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 35 minutes ago, JColts72 said: Young is just too small and weak to be QB. AR can covert to be a top TE once the QB experiment fails. Bert Jones at his current age probably be a more accurate passer. Oh lord 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a06cc Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 30 minutes ago, CR91 said: Some fans have never dealt with a rookie QB and it clearly shows. Imagine if the bills were as impatient as some fans here are. Year 1 made of glass and year 2 in running for defense player of the year. He isn’t a rookie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR91 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 2 minutes ago, a06cc said: Year 1 made of glass and year 2 in running for defense player of the year. He isn’t a rookie He's played 7 games. Basically is. You wanting instant ROI just shows how naive you are 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a06cc Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Just now, CR91 said: He's played 7 games. Basically is. You wanting instant ROI just shows how naive you are Yeah because it’s been 5 years and we still can’t get the Quarterback situation solidified. I’m giving it until week 8 or 9. He has to improve by then 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR91 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 14 minutes ago, a06cc said: Yeah because it’s been 5 years and we still can’t get the Quarterback situation solidified. I’m giving it until week 8 or 9. He has to improve by then Ok sure. We'll play by your deadline 🤦♂️ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indianapolis-Colts-Fan Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago All I want to see from AR is some form of improvement by seasons end. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmopar Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 25 minutes ago, a06cc said: Yeah because it’s been 5 years and we still can’t get the Quarterback situation solidified. I’m giving it until week 8 or 9. He has to improve by then And then what? You become a Panthers fan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breeze Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 27 minutes ago, a06cc said: Yeah because it’s been 5 years and we still can’t get the Quarterback situation solidified. I’m giving it until week 8 or 9. He has to improve by then Do you have a plan? Have you provided your credentials to the Colts front office? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IinD Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 12 minutes ago, csmopar said: And then what? You become a Panthers fan? Lol... Seriously. If I got this bent out of shape over my 'favorite' teams QB I'd 100% find a new team to root for. Way easier on the mind, body and soul... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funktacious2 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 15 minutes ago, Indianapolis-Colts-Fan said: All I want to see from AR is some form of improvement by seasons end. This. That’s all it’s ever been. The guy has barely played. It’s always been about his raw potential and we still see flashes of it even now anyways. Honestly imo, he’s doing pretty fine with some things that you see a lot of other rookies or inexperienced players never improve such as poise or reading the defense. I can excuse the occasional bonehead, risky throws and give him a chance to learn from them. The real issue is just his short and intermediate accuracy. I’m not underselling that either. Some guys just don’t have it. But I’m not convinced yet AR can’t clean that up. Not sure if it’s mechanics, timing, or what but I feel like if he can just get in a rhythm that he could really light a defense up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtAndOrioles Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago I am really honestly bewildered by all of the AR hate on this forum. It blows my mind tbh, For the life of me I cannot understand it. We finally drafted a QB with a super super high ceiling....think Josh Allen but maybe even higher.....after 5 years of old retreads...and people are laying into this guy like I haven't seen since Jeff George or Ryan Leaf. It really makes me think and go "hmmmmm". I have my opinions as to why but I will leave it at that. It is kind of crazy to me. I thought AR's 4 games last year were spectacular considering how young he was and the lack of experience. Then bam. He got a fluke injury. A pretty traumatic injury. Something he has never experienced in his life. Could not really practice all spring/early summer and his shoulder was still hurting as late as early August. He lost a ton of reps and experience from that injury. Give him a full season. Actually 2 full seasons. Give him a playbook when he gets more experience that uses his speed and strength to its full extent. I think we will see a Josh Allen player and maybe even better. And I think Josh Allen is an amazing football Qb. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoColts8818 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 14 minutes ago, ColtAndOrioles said: I am really honestly bewildered by all of the AR hate on this forum. It blows my mind tbh, For the life of me I cannot understand it. We finally drafted a QB with a super super high ceiling....think Josh Allen but maybe even higher.....after 5 years of old retreads...and people are laying into this guy like I haven't seen since Jeff George or Ryan Leaf. It really makes me think and go "hmmmmm". I have my opinions as to why but I will leave it at that. It is kind of crazy to me. I thought AR's 4 games last year were spectacular considering how young he was and the lack of experience. Then bam. He got a fluke injury. A pretty traumatic injury. Something he has never experienced in his life. Could not really practice all spring/early summer and his shoulder was still hurting as late as early August. He lost a ton of reps and experience from that injury. Give him a full season. Actually 2 full seasons. Give him a playbook when he gets more experience that uses his speed and strength to its full extent. I think we will see a Josh Allen player and maybe even better. And I think Josh Allen is an amazing football Qb. Colts fans are spoiled when it comes to new QBs. Manning won 13 games his second year and Luck made the playoffs his rookie year. Add in the fact people are just tired of the Colts not winning like they did with Manning and Luck and some just have no patience. I don’t think Irsay is that way. I think he knew when they took Richardson it would be a process and last year set that back. That why I think all the people wanting Ballard fired at seasons end are going to be disappointed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azcolt Posted 1 hour ago Author Share Posted 1 hour ago 16 minutes ago, ColtAndOrioles said: I am really honestly bewildered by all of the AR hate on this forum. It blows my mind tbh, For the life of me I cannot understand it. We finally drafted a QB with a super super high ceiling....think Josh Allen but maybe even higher.....after 5 years of old retreads...and people are laying into this guy like I haven't seen since Jeff George or Ryan Leaf. It really makes me think and go "hmmmmm". I have my opinions as to why but I will leave it at that. I We don’t hate the player. AR seems like a nice guy — probably not a rocket scientist — but a good guy who tries to do his best. And he does have an impressive, though inaccurate fastball. We don’t hate anybody related to the Colts but many of us believe our GM and over-the-hill, meddling owner are overmatched by the best organizations. Picking this guy #4 is malpractice comparable to the #1 pick of Jeff George and the giveaway of John Elway when he bluffed and Bob Irsay blinked. Hopefully a new GM and the next generation Irsays will someday re-install competency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy g Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 8 hours ago, azcolt said: NFL.com stats show Bryce Young dead last in qb Rating. I think the Colts Offense would’ve been ideal (similar to Alabama’s) for Young- but it just wasn’t meant to be. Our Line could have protected him while he learned. Sometimes the Player doesn’t fit the System, and his career goes to waste… Panthers didn’t work for Darnold, and now Young. CJ Stroud should be grateful he ended up in Houston and not Carolina. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtAndOrioles Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 8 minutes ago, azcolt said: We don’t hate the player. AR seems like a nice guy — probably not a rocket scientist — but a good guy who tries to do his best. And he does have an impressive, though inaccurate fastball. We don’t hate anybody related to the Colts but many of us believe our GM and over-the-hill, meddling owner are overmatched by the best organizations. Picking this guy #4 is malpractice comparable to the #1 pick of Jeff George and the giveaway of John Elway when he bluffed and Bob Irsay blinked. Hopefully a new GM and the next generation Irsays will someday re-install competency. They had to pick a QB last year. Rivers was gone. So was Wentz. So was Ryan. So was Minshew. What did you want the Colts to do? I don't even think Ballard is a good GM. IMO he should have been fired years ago. But I 100000000% support taking AR where they were drafting. He has the highest ceiling of all the QBs taken that year and it isn't even close. Well well WELL worth the pick. We don't need more years of Joe Flacco type retreads. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtAndOrioles Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago But getting back to the difference between AR and Bryce Young? From the eye test there is no comparison. I mean those 2 are in 2 different Universes. Forget stats and wins and losses. From a pure eye test standpoint? AR is light years ahead of BY. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueblood23 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, CR91 said: Ok sure. We'll play by your deadline 🤦♂️ How many seasons are you going to give him? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmy g Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 3 minutes ago, ColtAndOrioles said: But getting back to the difference between AR and Bryce Young? From the eye test there is no comparison. I mean those 2 are in 2 different Universes. Forget stats and wins and losses. From a pure eye test standpoint? AR is light years ahead of BY. Today AR is ahead, but he wasn’t when they were picked. Young WAS far more accurate in College. And he led a team to a National Championship. That has to mean something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restinpeacesweetchloe Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 6 minutes ago, jimmy g said: I think the Colts Offense would’ve been ideal (similar to Alabama’s) for Young- but it just wasn’t meant to be. Our Line could have protected him while he learned. Sometimes the Player doesn’t fit the System, and his career goes to waste… Panthers didn’t work for Darnold, and now Young. CJ Stroud should be grateful he ended up in Houston and not Carolina. It clearly isn’t all the line in panthers land. Dalton had no issues. Young is small and meak. He gets swamped up. He isnt like Murray. If young had Murray’s body type he might be ok but he doesn’t. He looks like he don’t know what he is doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtAndOrioles Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 5 minutes ago, jimmy g said: Today AR is ahead, but he wasn’t when they were picked. Young WAS far more accurate in College. And he led a team to a National Championship. That has to mean something. I lived in Pasadena CA when Young was a QB who had his parents drive him from Pasadena where he lived to the HS he graduated from....Mater Dei. I mean I lived a mile from him. He was well known then and I watched him a lot on the local cable football games. He dominated. But he was always kind of slim and weak looking. But in HS who cares. Let me just say he has barely grown since he was a senior in HS. He dominated back then because he could throw. But meanwhile every other elite athlete grew 5 inches and added 10-50 pounds. And are just as fast or much faster. He is too small. Too slow. And not accurate enough. Just not a good enough athlete. Reminds me of what Jackson Holliday with the Orioles may be. Great as a kid. But never got better. AR is the completely opposite. He is a manchild who is still growing and already much bigger than Young will ever be. I don't think the 2 are even comparable at this point. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChuggaBeer Posted 51 minutes ago Share Posted 51 minutes ago 12 minutes ago, ColtAndOrioles said: I lived in Pasadena CA when Young was a QB who had his parents drive him from Pasadena where he lived to the HS he graduated from....Mater Dei. I mean I lived a mile from him. He was well known then and I watched him a lot on the local cable football games. He dominated. But he was always kind of slim and weak looking. But in HS who cares. Let me just say he has barely grown since he was a senior in HS. He dominated back then because he could throw. But meanwhile every other elite athlete grew 5 inches and added 10-50 pounds. And are just as fast or much faster. He is too small. Too slow. And not accurate enough. Just not a good enough athlete. Reminds me of what Jackson Holliday with the Orioles may be. Great as a kid. But never got better. AR is the completely opposite. He is a manchild who is still growing and already much bigger than Young will ever be. I don't think the 2 are even comparable at this point. Very interesting. Thanks for sharing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted 46 minutes ago Share Posted 46 minutes ago This comparison is ridiculous. AR has had some great moments and has won 3 games now as a starter. Young has stunk up the joint completely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JColts72 Posted 43 minutes ago Share Posted 43 minutes ago 2 hours ago, CR91 said: Some fans have never dealt with a rookie QB and it clearly shows. Imagine if the bills were as impatient as some fans here are. Josh has way better HC, coaches and players to develop where he is now. Just have to wait and see how it goes for Anthony here. I go back to when Bert was a rookie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JColts72 Posted 39 minutes ago Share Posted 39 minutes ago 50 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said: Colts fans are spoiled when it comes to new QBs. Manning won 13 games his second year and Luck made the playoffs his rookie year. Add in the fact people are just tired of the Colts not winning like they did with Manning and Luck and some just have no patience. I don’t think Irsay is that way. I think he knew when they took Richardson it would be a process and last year set that back. That why I think all the people wanting Ballard fired at seasons end are going to be disappointed. Ballard should be fired for way constructs the roster, always sitting on the millions to not spend in free agency by bargain bin shopping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dingus McGirt Posted 32 minutes ago Share Posted 32 minutes ago 1 minute ago, JColts72 said: Ballard should be fired for way constructs the roster, always sitting on the millions to not spend in free agency by bargain bin shopping. What’s really most important for an NFL GM…winning - or maximizing profit for the owner? I would say both. But it’s hard. It seems Irsay is happy with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR711 Posted 31 minutes ago Share Posted 31 minutes ago My biggest issue with AR so far is that is looks more wildly inaccurate throwing than he did at any portion in the four games he started in 2023. The stats bear that out as he is currently (through 3 full games, 11 less pass attempts from last year) at an awful 49% completion percentage compared to 59% last year. I remember reading somewhere that the team was extra cautious with him ramping up his throwing after he was cleared medically. Perhaps, a repercussion of this was it cost him the reps, time, opportunity necessary to practice, improve his mechanics in the offseason on those intermediate throws that seems to be the main source of the struggles currently. Regardless of the source, it needs to be fixed and hopefully we see the improvement as the season progresses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CR91 Posted 26 minutes ago Share Posted 26 minutes ago 50 minutes ago, Blueblood23 said: How many seasons are you going to give him? Until he gives me a reason to think we need a new QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Colts1317 Posted 25 minutes ago Share Posted 25 minutes ago It’s embarrassing the way some Colts “ fans “ are acting after 3 games. Probably best if Ballard is just let go and hold open interviews for GM on this forum since they know what’s best for the team. Richardson is not overwhelmed, if anything’s he’s too excited and needs to just slow down. He’s seeing the field well and making the right reads for the most part. He’s also learning to be a pocket passer on the fly. Once the game slows down for him he is going to start putting it all together. You can teach mechanics, you can teach techniques, the one thing you can’t teach is a rocket arm, and elite speed / size. Give it time because I think it’ll be worth it… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted 16 minutes ago Share Posted 16 minutes ago 12 minutes ago, Captain_Colts1317 said: It’s embarrassing the way some Colts “ fans “ are acting after 3 games. Probably best if Ballard is just let go and hold open interviews for GM on this forum since they know what’s best for the team. Richardson is not overwhelmed, if anything’s he’s too excited and needs to just slow down. He’s seeing the field well and making the right reads for the most part. He’s also learning to be a pocket passer on the fly. Once the game slows down for him he is going to start putting it all together. You can teach mechanics, you can teach techniques, the one thing you can’t teach is a rocket arm, and elite speed / size. Give it time because I think it’ll be worth it… I would make a poll of 10 people that are on the forum that think they would be better GMs than Ballard but it would get deleted and I will play nice . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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