Colts offseason discussion / Ballard Grievances (merge)

[Smonroe]

7 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

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I don’t know if I would call three starting caliber corners plus maybe the best slot corner in the NFL thin.  That’s actually pretty deep.  Still I am not against trading for Sneed depending on the price.

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Well, that may be generous.  Yes, they all started but the book is still out on Brents and Flowers.  They could be good but I'd still like to have someone with experience besides Kenny, lined up with one of them.  And their injury histories is concerning.

 

You saw how teams started figuring out Jones at the end of the season.  To be fair, he's a late round pick and did a good job.  I just don't know if we saw his best or he'll continue to grow.  Like you said earlier, you can only get experience by playing.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

 

[NewColtsFan]

1 hour ago, stitches said:

... again... the resource allocation. 

You don’t even know what the Colts might spend on Dillon, but you’re already complaining.   It’s become par for the course.    
 

I’ve seen you $14m for a backup Nose Tackle comment.   You’re determined to prove you don’t get it.   Carry on. 

[Superman]

24 minutes ago, Goatface Killah said:

Im trying to convince you that your expectations are completley unrealistic more than anything. Did you really expect him to overhaul the entire secomdary and receiving corps? How was he gonna do that?

 

Speaking for myself only, I held out hope that Ballard would see the need to direct resources toward the weaker areas of the team. Him doubling down on other areas is disappointing.

 

On offense, I want some OL depth and an improvement at WR. I wasn't expecting any fireworks in FA.

[stitches]

3 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

You don’t even know what the Colts might spend on Dillon, but you’re already complaining.   It’s become par for the course.    

Yes. I said already - if it turns out to be a vet min or thereabout, I might change my tune. But AJ Dillon IMO doesn't have that profile of a player who gets vet min. And again - if I turn out to be wrong - I would gladly take back my objection. 

 

3 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

I’ve seen you $14m for a backup Nose Tackle comment.   You’re determined to prove you don’t get it.   Carry on. 

We've already established that we view that signing very differently, so yeah... lets move on... 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

That Davis contract is not as it appears. It’s only like 5 million this year and they have the option for 9 million year two if he proves his worth. Don’t look at the 14 million.

[Goatface Killah]

5 minutes ago, stitches said:

It's not just what he didn't do. It's what he is actively doing. He continues to emphasize the trenches... and in the most run-focused way possible. Extended Franklin who is strictly a run-defender, instead of going for someone like... Frankie Luvu for example, who got a similar contract and is much better player than Franklin and better in all the ways that would have helped our pass defense - incredible coverage linebacker, one of the best in the league, great blitzer(pass-disruption again). Instead of goinf for some of the DLinemen who are more pass-rush oriented, he re-signed Grover(run stuffer) and signed a 7M backup for him(another run stuffer). We still haven't made any addition to the secondary and it seems like we are losing Blackmon(still not officially confirmed, but people are saying he's scrubbed everything Colts related from his social media) who was one of the better coverage players for us last year. 

 

So yeah... I really don't see how he could have done anything worse for our pass-defense... maybe if we let Kenny go too. But then it would have been unmitigated disaster. 

Ok. So youre mad he didnt sign Luvu. But I dont think Luvu would even be a Franklin replacement, he would more likely replace EJ Speed in our scheme and we just invested in Speed. So again, I see that as unrealistic. And man, we dont blitz so I think its a complete waste to think they are gonna invest in a guy who blitzes all the time in a completely different scheme and philosophy. 

 

I dont think Gus Bradley would even view Luvu as a fit. 

 

 

[stitches]

Just now, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

That Davis contract is not as it appears. It’s only like 5 million this year and they have the option for 9 million year two if he proves his worth. Don’t look at the 14 million.

It's 5M for year one with 2.5M dead money if we cut him for year 2... so yeah... it's pretty much 7.5M for 1 year. If you cut him after year one you only save 6.5M, not 9. 

[throwing BBZ]

3 hours ago, Solid84 said:

I don't expect (or want really) Ballard to make the big splashes in FA. I do want him to make the medium splashes.

 

Ballard basically only uses FA for 1-2 year JAGs he hopes can fill the holes he can't fill in the draft. It's not working for us or anyone else. You NEED to plugs holes with reliable talent. Unless you never miss in the draft, solely using that to add talent isn't enough. No succesful team does what Ballard does.

 

Look at what the Chiefs are doing, the Ravens, the Bengals. They add talent in FA to supplement their draft hits. Sure, they are further along than us, but when Ballard has a tendency to draft raw, traitsy guys who need 2-4 years of development we're never going to get there, because if one is a miss we're once again behind those 2-4 years a new guy will take to develop. He needs to use FA to add talent when he misses.

 

 In a nutshell, this is indeed why we have so many weak spots.

If we win more than 7 games this season it will be because we win the turnover/penalty battles. And the coaching. Not because of talent.

 We have been poor at developing his and Dodds "winners". So unless someone else influences our draft selections, we are stuck with mediocrity.

[1959Colts]

https://www.nbcsports.com/nfl/profootballtalk/rumor-mill/news/dolphins-release-xavien-howard

Dolphins release Xavien Howard

Cornerback Xavien Howard is officially free to sign with another team.

The Dolphins announced Howard’s release shortly after the 2024 league year began at 4 p.m. ET on Wednesday. The move was expected, but the Dolphins waited to make it in order to make Howard a post-June 1 cut and clear $18.5 million in cap space come that date.

 

[stitches]

3 minutes ago, Goatface Killah said:

Ok. So youre mad he didnt sign Luvu. But I dont think Luvu would even be a Franklin replacement, he would more likely replace EJ Speed in our scheme and we just invested in Speed. So again, I see that as unrealistic. And man, we dont blitz so I think its a complete waste to think they are gonna invest in a guy who blitzes all the time in a completely different scheme and philosophy. 

 

I dont think Gus Bradley would even view Luvu as a fit. 

 

We don't blitz a lot... but when we blitz we need that blitz to be super effective. We didn't blitz a ton in Shaq Leonard's better days either... but when he blitzed it was impactful. Luvu has similar playmaking ability. And again... it's not just Luvu. If I said another player(Patrick Queen, Azeez Al-Shaair, Drue Tranquill), people would still find reasons why we shouldn't have singed them. Yes... there is no absolute perfect fit that will hit every single requirement and be super good and super cheap and super available. If we want to find reasons to not sign players we will find them. My point is... Ballard is making the focus of this off-season the same thing that he's been focusing on since forever and he continues to ignore the areas of the team that need most help.  

[JediXMan]

Sounds like the Titans they got more cap space.

[Hawkeyecolt]

Cleveland's blitzing worked so well in the playoffs against Houston. How do people think the Colts young corners would have held up blitzing more?  Defo recently said in an interview that Gus couldn't run as much of the defense that he would have liked due to the inexperience in the secondary.  

[runthepost]

Texans might get Armstead too 

[stitches]

Just now, runthepost said:

Texans might get Armstead too 

The Texans are doing what any team with a young talented QB should be doing, stacking the roster and using the cheap QB window to try to create a contention window. Good for them... 

[JediXMan]

Just now, runthepost said:

Texans might get Armstead too 

Loading up the team while the QB is on a rookie contract. I wonder what other AFCS team is in a similar situation 🤔

[stitches]

Mason Rudolph to the Titans. One more backup QB off the market... 

[runthepost]

19 minutes ago, Hawkeyecolt said:

Cleveland's blitzing worked so well in the playoffs against Houston. How do people think the Colts young corners would have held up blitzing more?  Defo recently said in an interview that Gus couldn't run as much of the defense that he would have liked due to the inexperience in the secondary.  

Gus history says otherwise 

[csmopar]

32 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

 

Man I almost freaked out . At first glance I thought it said he had signed a 10 year contract . 

[Goatface Killah]

8 minutes ago, Hawkeyecolt said:

Cleveland's blitzing worked so well in the playoffs against Houston. How do people think the Colts young corners would have held up blitzing more?  Defo recently said in an interview that Gus couldn't run as much of the defense that he would have liked due to the inexperience in the secondary.  

Right...... I dont get it. They want us to blitz guys whomwerent brought in to play a blitzing scheme, just for the sake of blitzing. 

[csmopar]

10 minutes ago, JediXMan said:

Sounds like the Titans they got more cap space.

Would be hilarious if it was Us

[richard pallo]

Just now, csmopar said:

Would be hilarious if it was Us

I was thinking the same thing.

[csmopar]

5 minutes ago, stitches said:

Mason Rudolph to the Titans. One more backup QB off the market... 

I think we’ll look at Jimmy G

[Yoshinator]

Just now, csmopar said:

I think we’ll look at Jimmy G

I'm going to say Tannehill. He'll come to a division rival in the Colts for cheap to try and prove himself.

[csmopar]

Just now, Yoshinator said:

I'm going to say Tannehill. He'll come to a division rival in the Colts for cheap to try and prove himself.

Yeah he wouldn’t be bad to help mentor AR either 

[stitches]

Just now, csmopar said:

Yeah he wouldn’t be bad to help mentor AR either 

Wasn't it Tannehill that said he isn't there to mentor Levis last year? 

[BProland85]

8 minutes ago, stitches said:

The Texans are doing what any team with a young talented QB should be doing, stacking the roster and using the cheap QB window to try to create a contention window. Good for them... 

Hmmm, kinda what the Colts should be doing too then right?

[Patrick Miller]

Might be able to pick up Garoppolo for a back up. 

[richard pallo]

1 minute ago, Yoshinator said:

I'm going to say Tannehill. He'll come to a division rival in the Colts for cheap to try and prove himself.

Minshew fit Shane’s system.  I’m not sure about these two.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Colts should just move on.

 

 

[richard pallo]

Just now, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Colts should just move on.

 

 

Patience is a virtue.

[stitches]

2 minutes ago, BProland85 said:

Hmmm, kinda what the Colts should be doing too then right?

You said it...

[jskinnz]

3 minutes ago, Yoshinator said:

I'm going to say Tannehill. He'll come to a division rival in the Colts for cheap to try and prove himself.

What exactly is Tannehill going to prove at this point?

 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

4 minutes ago, richard pallo said:

Patience is a virtue.

Until we wait and there are no CB left and Chiefs decide to keep him.

[runthepost]

 

3 minutes ago, jskinnz said:

What exactly is Tannehill going to prove at this point?

 

He’s a better QB than Richardson as Lennymoore would say 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

 

[richard pallo]

Just now, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

 

Nice new target for Levis.  Ouch!

[Superman]

58 minutes ago, AKB said:

right so you want DE instead of DT, but we already invested in Paye, and Dayo. Also Ebukam. We don't have a top-tier pass rusher, but outside of hunter there really wasn't an option. 

 

Paye and Dayo were drafted three seasons ago. Both are heading into contract years, and like you said, neither of them are top tier pass rushers. I would have rather kept our powder dry and look to find a way to add a top tier pass rusher, whether now or in the future.

 

Same for a good coverage LB, or help in the secondary.

 

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we also had a decent amount of sacks, rather people wanna find some convoluted way of discounting it or not

 

If you think we have a good enough pass rush to support a contention level defense, then it's just an area where we disagree on a fundamental level.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

So the per year that Pittman  got is close to what Ridley got.

[Superman]

3 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

 

 

That's Pittman's agent. Good week for him.