Spoiled Fansbase

[BleedBlue4Shoe86]

We might be the most spoiled fan base. I love my Colts Burton here we are pretty spoiled and the sky is always falling. This is very true when it come to Jacoby Brissett 
 

Best example that we are a spoiled fan base. From 1998- 2011 we had Peyton Manning, probably top 5 quarterback in the history of the NFL. Then we get Andrew Luck from 2012- 2018. Labeled as the next John Elway and was considered the next elite quarterback. We have have two of the best quarterbacks/prospects of probably the 20 years. 
 

We aren’t used to having just a good quarterback. Pretty sure Bengals, Dolphins, Jets, Bucs, Titans, Jags, Browns would kills to have a good quarterback. To believe that we would just stumble into three generational QBs in 30 years is almost disrespectful. 
 

Jacoby is a good quarterback who can win games. We have a talented roster and they love him and would run through a brick wall for him. There is nothing wrong with having a good stable QB. They can get you to the playoffs and to the Super Bowl: Foles, Ryan, Newton, Flacco, Kaepernick, Grossman, Dilfer. 

 

Yes, he had a horrible game last week but every quarterback does, even Luck and Manning. 
 

We are 6-5 and fighting for a playoff spot. Jacoby is 6-3 in games he starts and finishes and is OUR Quarterback. Get behind him. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

We are spoiled, that I agree with. Since the 2000 season started we have the 2nd most wins of any franchise (Pats only have more). We also have been too a couple of SB's and won one. Manning spoiled us rotten for years. Then Luck took mediocre rosters to the playoffs in his first 3 seasons even making an AFC Title Game. Brissett isn't either of those guys but not many are. I have Manning as a top 3 QB of all-time.

[PrincetonTiger]

The lifers around here know the bad side of QBing in Indianapolis 

[BleedBlue4Shoe86]

I am so glad that I have some like minded people on here. 

[WoolMagnet]

11 minutes ago, BleedBlue4Shoe86 said:

I am so glad that I have some like minded people on here. 

Yes, but so few.

[2006Coltsbestever]

14 minutes ago, BleedBlue4Shoe86 said:

I am so glad that I have some like minded people on here. 

After watching Art Schlichter, Mike Pagel, and Jeff George as a teenager watching Brissett is fun  

[pacolts56]

3 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

After watching Art Schlichter, Mike Pagel, and Jeff George as a teenager watching Brissett is fun  

Don't forget Crystal Chandelier (Chris Chandler) 

[2006Coltsbestever]

4 minutes ago, pacolts56 said:

Don't forget Crystal Chandelier (Chris Chandler) 

Yeah him too. How about Gary Hogeboom  . We had some doozy's back in the day. Jack Trudeau too but at least with Jack we won the division in 1987. Thanks to Dickerson in reality.

[MCurtis32]

Can you imagine the Colts had never left the AFC east. Would the Colts have ever won the division or been in the playoffs? Imagine being a bills, dolphin or jets fan. All three of these teams have one thing in common. The QB play has been bad for years. Buffalo finally found them a keeper. Jets are on the right track, maybe. Dolphins..... they beat the Colts. Moral to the story. Colts have been blessed at the qb position. Unitas,Jones,Harbaugh,Manning and Luck.

I'm not going to settle for Brisset because the bar is high.

[coltfaninnewyork]

We are ,we hooked on winning bro .mediocre quarterback play.The frustration is we know If luck was the quarterback we would be a championship threat .

[EastStreet]

Those crybabies unhappy with a bottom 5 passing attack should all suck it up and be more accepting like Jets and Redskin fans. 

 

While we're at it, we should give AV a ten year extension. 

 

 

[BleedBlue4Shoe86]

2 minutes ago, coltfaninnewyork said:

We are ,we hooked on winning bro .mediocre quarterback play.The frustration is we know If luck was the quarterback we would be a championship threat .

But he is gone. We must move on. 
 

serious question. If Brissett leads this extremely undermanned team to playoffs, will everyone accept him?

[PrincetonTiger]

2 minutes ago, BleedBlue4Shoe86 said:

But he is gone. We must move on. 
 

serious question. If Brissett leads this extremely undermanned team to playoffs, will everyone accept him?

[PrincetonTiger]

17 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Yeah him too. How about Gary Hogeboom  . We had some doozy's back in the day. Jack Trudeau too but at least with Jack we won the division in 1987. Thanks to Dickerson in reality.

Columbus East Grad Blair Kiel

[MPStack]

1 minute ago, PrincetonTiger said:

Columbus East Grad Blair Kiel

Good one! Most probably don’t remember, Kiel could punt too. And for good reason.

[PrincetonTiger]

@2006Coltsbestever

    Here are a few one hit wonders

        Rusty Hilger

         Ricky Turner

         Terry Nugent

         Matt Kofler

       

       

[PrincetonTiger]

Just now, MPStack said:

Good one! Most probably don’t remember, Kiel could punt too. And for good reason.

I remember him more through his nephew Gunner and the fact that my longtime college roommates were East Grads 

[MPStack]

4 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said:

@2006Coltsbestever

    Here are a few one hit wonders

        Rusty Hilger

         Ricky Turner

         Terry Nugent

         Matt Kofler

       

       

Ricky Turner ran the wishbone with the Colts. 

[Tsarquise]

13 minutes ago, BleedBlue4Shoe86 said:

But he is gone. We must move on. 
 

serious question. If Brissett leads this extremely undermanned team to playoffs, will everyone accept him?

If he "leads" the Colts to the playoffs with phenomenal QB play, then, yes, I would assume people would accept and praise Brissett, but if the Colts make the playoffs with the same way Brissett has been playing, then, uh, no....

[MCurtis32]

8 minutes ago, BleedBlue4Shoe86 said:

But he is gone. We must move on. 
 

serious question. If Brissett leads this extremely undermanned team to playoffs, will everyone accept him?

If the Colts make the playoffs, it won't be because of Brissett. If you run the ball and stop the run you can win games. If one of those fall short, you get down two scores, Is brissett going to dig you out? I don't feel good about the odds of success.

[MCurtis32]

4 minutes ago, Tsarquise said:

If he "leads" the Colts to the playoffs with phenomenal QB play, then, yes, I would assume people would accept and praise Brissett, but if the Colts make the playoffs with the same way Brissett has been playing, then, uh, no....

exactly

[Fisticuffs111]

To me this is just kind of a lazy and generic take.

[MCurtis32]

14 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said:

@2006Coltsbestever

    Here are a few one hit wonders

        Rusty Hilger

         Ricky Turner

         Terry Nugent

         Matt Kofler

       

       

Damn! I do not remember any of these guys. I guess when we threw rocks at the mayflower trucks as they left I stopped watching for a while.

[PeterBowman]

I don't think many here were either born by or old enough to remember the pre Manning years. When they were the joke of the league most years...save for a few select seasons...'87 and '95 come to mind.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Why complain about Brissett. It will play out the way it’s supposed to. None of us have a say in what Ballard  does with the QB situation. 

[NannyMcafee]

It's been a doozy of a season. Been an Interesting one at that. 

[hoosierhawk]

47 minutes ago, BleedBlue4Shoe86 said:

 

serious question. If Brissett leads this extremely undermanned team to playoffs, will everyone accept him?

If he doesn't will you except that we need to move on from him.

You must  be a seriously informed Colt fan if you think this is an extremely undermanned team. That only comes from an extremely uninformed person.

[jvan1973]

57 minutes ago, EastStreet said:

Those crybabies unhappy with a bottom 5 passing attack should all suck it up and be more accepting like Jets and Redskin fans. 

 

While we're at it, we should give AV a ten year extension. 

 

 

The crybabies should realize that our elite QB retired.   We're lucky we had Jacoby.    Literally.  Jacoby is the 4th best QB we have had since the colts moved to indy.     The Manning era fans have no idea how bad things can be.    Jacoby would have been a God send in the 80s

[BleedBlue4Shoe86]

5 minutes ago, hoosierhawk said:

If he doesn't will you except that we need to move on from him.

You must  be a seriously informed Colt fan if you think this is an extremely undermanned team. That only comes from an extremely uninformed person.

I like to think I’m pretty informed. Please tell me definition of undermanned?  Mine is the following:

 

playing without: Hilton, Funchess, Campbell, Ebron, Mack, Kelly, Hooker, Leonard, Turay, Rock, Desir. 
 

sounds pretty undermanned to me. 

[hoosierhawk]

4 minutes ago, BleedBlue4Shoe86 said:

I like to think I’m pretty informed. Please tell me definition of undermanned?  Mine is the following:

 

playing without: Hilton, Funchess, Campbell, Ebron, Mack, Kelly, Hooker, Leonard, Turay, Rock, Desir. 
 

sounds pretty undermanned to me. 

Inform yourself about what's going on in the rest of the league. Heard on NFL radio today for example Chicago left 5 starters from last game home for tomorrows game do to injuries plus I believe they have some guys on IR. New England had 18 guys on their injury report today,8 DNP. Texans had 10 on injury report today. Both times we played the Texans their defensive backfield was way undermanned due to injury. That is the nature of the beast this time of the year in the NFL.

And by the way, Ebron never missed a game this year, Kelly I believe only missed a few plays, Leonard missed one game as did Desir I believe and YaSin is supposedly back this week after being out one game.

I certainly am not happy that we have injuries but I am not surprised or do I think we are an exception as I think most teams are in similar shape. When you said an extremely undermanned team you it sounded like we were an extremely undermanned team, not a team with a lot of injuries.

[GoColts8818]

Yes this fan base has been spoiled for a long time.

[GoColts8818]

2 hours ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

After watching Art Schlichter, Mike Pagel, and Jeff George as a teenager watching Brissett is fun  

Heck people who watch Collins, Painter, and Orlovsky try to play QB should be able to appreciate Brissett.

[PrincetonTiger]

5 minutes ago, hoosierhawk said:

Inform yourself about what's going on in the rest of the league. Heard on NFL radio today for example Chicago left 5 starters from last game home for tomorrows game do to injuries plus I believe they have some guys on IR. New England had 18 guys on their injury report today,8 DNP. Texans had 10 on injury report today. Both times we played the Texans their defensive backfield was way undermanned due to injury. That is the nature of the beast this time of the year in the NFL.

And by the way, Ebron never missed a game this year, Kelly I believe only missed a few plays, Leonard missed one game as did Desir I believe and YaSin is supposedly back this week after being out one game.

I certainly am not happy that we have injuries but I am not surprised or do I think we are an exception as I think most teams are in similar shape. When you said an extremely undermanned team you it sounded like we were an extremely undermanned team, not a team with a lot of injuries.

Playing with unexpected starters is the definition of being undermanned

 

      Desir missed multiple games

[Fisticuffs111]

With all these comments you’d expect an uproar if Ballard drafts a QB early. If he doesn’t, so be it, but with how closely he and the scouts have followed Jordan Love, it definitely seems like he’s looking to bring in a potential/eventual replacement. Or at the very least, he doesn’t seem so content with JB as the clear cut long term QB.

[EastStreet]

24 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:

The crybabies should realize that our elite QB retired.   We're lucky we had Jacoby.    Literally.  Jacoby is the 4th best QB we have had since the colts moved to indy.     The Manning era fans have no idea how bad things can be.    Jacoby would have been a God send in the 80s

I remember the 80s and 90s well. May family had tix much of the awful years. I enjoyed the Hairball/Faulk years, but overall the team has been much better shaped offensively since Jim took over.

 

Anyway, glad JB was here to jump in, but he simply did his job. He was also blessed to have a top 5 OL, top 5 running game, and top 10ish D. Let's not treat him like a savior. He has been given a pretty good opportunity with a very strong core. 

 

Wanting better is not being spoiled IMO, and I've been a fan since they pulled their rigs into Indy during my HS years (so save the Manning era stuff).

[GoColts8818]

1 minute ago, Fisticuffs111 said:

With all these comments you’d expect an uproar of Ballard drafted a QB early. If he doesn’t, so be it, but with how closely he and the scouts have followed Jordan Love, it definitely seems like he’s looking to bring in a potential/eventual replacement.

Nothing wrong with bringing in another QB.  Competition is a good thing.  If they both pan out you flip one for a draft pick down the road.

[BleedBlue4Shoe86]

2 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

Nothing wrong with bringing in another QB.  Competition is a good thing.  If they both pan out you flip one for a draft pick down the road.

I will say this real quick. 
 

1. Leonard missed three games. 
2. I believe I read in the forum that the rumors of Ballard going to Utah state to scout Oive were not true. He was credentialed but was not there. Not sure if this is true. 

[GoColts8818]

4 minutes ago, BleedBlue4Shoe86 said:

I will say this real quick. 
 

1. Leonard missed three games. 
2. I believe I read in the forum that the rumors of Ballard going to Utah state to scout Oive were not true. He was credentialed but was not there. Not sure if this is true. 

Ok Leonard has nothing to do with the offense.

 

i don’t care if he brings Love in or not.  Frankly he’s not a guy I am high on.  Still I don’t have a problem if they bring another QB in.  While Jacoby isn’t as bad as some want him to be he’s not Andrew Luck either and never will be.  If you can upgrade the position that’s a good thing.  At the same time it’s not a must do like it was after 2011 either.

[Two_pound]

How about 1978's stand-in for Bert Jones, Bill Troup. Jack Trudeau was a lot better than most people give him credit for. The Colts were very good in '87,'88, and '89. We should have never drafted Chandler or George.

[EastStreet]

26 minutes ago, hoosierhawk said:

Inform yourself about what's going on in the rest of the league. Heard on NFL radio today for example Chicago left 5 starters from last game home for tomorrows game do to injuries plus I believe they have some guys on IR. New England had 18 guys on their injury report today,8 DNP. Texans had 10 on injury report today. Both times we played the Texans their defensive backfield was way undermanned due to injury. That is the nature of the beast this time of the year in the NFL.

And by the way, Ebron never missed a game this year, Kelly I believe only missed a few plays, Leonard missed one game as did Desir I believe and YaSin is supposedly back this week after being out one game.

I certainly am not happy that we have injuries but I am not surprised or do I think we are an exception as I think most teams are in similar shape. When you said an extremely undermanned team you it sounded like we were an extremely undermanned team, not a team with a lot of injuries.

 

19 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said:

Playing with unexpected starters is the definition of being undermanned

 

      Desir missed multiple games

 

FYI, Indy isn't even the top 10 most injured by either man-game, or AV this year. We were top 5 last year though.

 

Below is a good plot through week 12. Left to right is pure man games missed, while size of bubble is the amount of AV lost. 

 

@Chloe6124 this is a good one to follow and will help keep it real in regards to injury and team impact.

 

Note that:

NE has more pure injuries, and more lost AV

SF has more pure injuries and about the same lost AV