Grigson's New Low

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Ryan Grigson - G - Free Agent

Browns fired senior personnel executive Ryan Grigson,

Grigson was fired as the Colts' GM less than a year ago and latched on with the Browns in May. He lasts just one season with the team with the Browns overhauling their front office and bringing in a bunch of talent ex-Packers executives. Grigson, 46 next month, has seen his career spiral the drain.

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Jan 10 - 2:45 PM

[Barry Sears]

https://www.profootballrumors.com/2018/01/browns-fire-ryan-grigson

 

I'd be surprised if he works in the NFL again

[ReMeDy]

Hmm, so they kept some of the former staff, but let Grigson go. Clearly there was something they didn't like about him, otherwise if they were doing a genuine revamp, wouldn't they let everyone go, similar to what we did with the Bill Polian posse?

Oh what am I saying, it's Grigson! Of course they didn't like him! Next stop for Grigson: McDonalds!

[NewColtsFan]

Grigson will eventually emerge as a scout for some team.

 

I doubt his days in the NFL are over.

 

[ReMeDy]

1 hour ago, NewColtsFan said:

Grigson will eventually emerge as a scout for some team.

 

I doubt his days in the NFL are over.

 

 

Problem for him is I don't know if he's a good scout. I'm not saying he was entirely awful (he had his moments), but he swinged and missed on almost everything in the 1st round, most notably the Trent Richardson trade, and signing Werner and Heyward-Bey (who play positions having nothing to do with protecting Luck). We also never had a plan in place for when Luck went down. How a former scout could be this bad I just don't understand. Then you add on the fact the guy is apparently a jerk, as Pat McAfee isn't shy about showing his disdain for the guy.

Maybe he will be a scouting assistant. He needs to learn from someone or go back to a scouting school for a refresher, because he just set the Colts back several years and maybe even costed Andrew Luck his career.

[NewColtsFan]

8 minutes ago, ReMeDy said:

 

Problem for him is I don't know if he's a good scout. I'm not saying he was entirely awful (he had his moments), but he swinged and missed on almost everything in the 1st round, most notably the Trent Richardson trade, and signing Werner and Heyward-Bey (who play positions having nothing to do with protecting Luck). We also never had a plan in place for when Luck went down. How a former scout could be this bad I just don't understand. Then you add on the fact the guy is apparently a jerk, as Pat McAfee isn't shy about showing his disdain for the guy.

Maybe he will be a scouting assistant. He needs to learn from someone or go back to a scouting school for a refresher, because he just set the Colts back several years and maybe even costed Andrew Luck his career.

 

There is a difference between being a scout and being a GM.    Grigson had been a scout before.   I suspect if he wants it, he could do it again.

 

As to the backup plan for Luck?

 

The Tolzein fiasco was one year.    Otherwise we had Drew Stanton in 12 and Matt Hasselbeck in 13-15.   It was only in 16 that RG dropped the ball on the backup..

 

Remember....    he was the GM of a franchise that didn't have a losing season in FIVE years.   And three times won 11 regular season games.    And he won NFL exec of the Year.    That earns him SOME crediblity with NFL types.

 

There are 32 teams.   One will likely need a scout of some kind.

 

[Buck Showalter]

8 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

 

There is a difference between being a scout and being a GM.    Grigson had been a scout before.   I suspect if he wants it, he could do it again.

 

As to the backup plan for Luck?

 

The Tolzein fiasco was one year.    Otherwise we had Drew Stanton in 12 and Matt Hasselbeck in 13-15.   It was only in 16 that RG dropped the ball on the backup..

 

Remember....    he was the GM of a franchise that didn't have a losing season in FIVE years.   And three times won 11 regular season games.    And he won NFL exec of the Year.    That earns him SOME crediblity with NFL types.

 

There are 32 teams.   One will likely need a scout of some kind.

 

Ha, obviously true.

 

But, some bitter fans will want to gloat at how far Grigs has fallen. Getting fired from Cleveland and playing even the smallest of roles in their 0-16 season allows them the opportunity!!!

[John Waylon]

Anyone remember when this guy won executive of the year? 

 

Yiiiiiikes. 

[ReMeDy]

21 minutes ago, John Waylon said:

Anyone remember when this guy won executive of the year? 

 

Yiiiiiikes. 

 

That was when Luck was healthy, right? It makes me think anyone could have won that award with Luck at the helm.

[John Waylon]

35 minutes ago, ReMeDy said:

 

That was when Luck was healthy, right? It makes me think anyone could have won that award with Luck at the helm.

 

Was 2012. 

[Mel Kiper's Hair]

Some would argue that being able to leave the Browns is a good thing! Maybe they just wanted him so they could fire him for the Richardson trade as well since both teams got the raw end of that deal!

[Lucky Colts Fan]

I hate to kick a man when he's down...

 

 

Or beat a dead horse...

 

 

Or rub it in his face...

 

 

Or gloat...

 

(look at that salt-n-pepper)

(you see my hair? it's nice, right? yeah, it's like, this nice.)

(I like you this much)

(Yeah, you)

 

But we've moved on Grigsy, it's best you do the same.

 

I hear the   need a new Head-Scout to draft every player for Belichick... please go do that...

 

PLEASE!!!

[HungarianColtsFan]

Wonder what Patty Mac had to say about that...

[coltsva]

Rumor has it he went on a scouting trip to Western Governor's University, and that sealed his fate. 

[lance_m8]

Somehow he still makes more money than most of us on this forum.......

[Narcosys]

On 10/01/2018 at 11:33 PM, ReMeDy said:

 

Problem for him is I don't know if he's a good scout. I'm not saying he was entirely awful (he had his moments), but he swinged and missed on almost everything in the 1st round, most notably the Trent Richardson trade, and signing Werner and Heyward-Bey (who play positions having nothing to do with protecting Luck). We also never had a plan in place for when Luck went down. How a former scout could be this bad I just don't understand. Then you add on the fact the guy is apparently a jerk, as Pat McAfee isn't shy about showing his disdain for the guy.

Maybe he will be a scouting assistant. He needs to learn from someone or go back to a scouting school for a refresher, because he just set the Colts back several years and maybe even costed Andrew Luck his career.

We didn't have a plan for when peyton went down either. 

[aaron11]

9 hours ago, lance_m8 said:

Somehow he still makes more money than most of us on this forum.......

you can look up the average american income and see this is easily true

 

whats your point though, we shouldn't hate on him because he makes a lot of money?  

[Surge89]

1 hour ago, aaron11 said:

you can look up the average american income and see this is easily true

 

whats your point though, we shouldn't hate on him because he makes a lot of money?  

 

I think his point is this forum has about 20 football minds that are significantly better than what he could hope for and somehow he is a former Exec of the year.  

 

It's mind boggling lol.

[crazycolt1]

2 hours ago, Narcosys said:

We didn't have a plan for when peyton went down either. 

Yes we did. Polian drafted Curtis Painter and then signed Kerry Collins.

[Narcosys]

5 hours ago, crazycolt1 said:

Yes we did. Polian drafted Curtis Painter and then signed Kerry Collins.

 

Ok if you're going to count that then we had tolzien and signed brisset. 

[crazycolt1]

11 minutes ago, Narcosys said:

 

Ok if you're going to count that then we had tolzien and signed brisset. 

We didn't sign Brissett, we traded for him.

Now if you want to be negative about Brissett that's on you. Ballard trading for Brissett was a lot better move than Painter or Collins. Collins got paid over a year and half for absolutely nothing. There is no comparison.

[Narcosys]

6 minutes ago, crazycolt1 said:

We didn't sign Brissett, we traded for him.

Now if you want to be negative about Brissett that's on you. Ballard trading for Brissett was a lot better move than Painter or Collins. Collins got paid over a year and half for absolutely nothing. There is no comparison.

Semantics, there is a comparison. There was a plan for both. Have a crappy backup, get a better starter. If one doesn't count, neither does the other.

 

Now if youre going to argue based on semantics and ticky-tacky logic, then you aren't worth my time. 

[crazycolt1]

1 minute ago, Narcosys said:

Semantics, there is a comparison. There was a plan for both. Have a crappy backup, get a better starter. If one doesn't count, neither does the other.

 

Now if youre going to argue based on semantics and ticky-tacky logic, then you aren't worth my time. 

Ticky-tacky logic?  I guess it's not worth any time at all.

The only argument here is in your head.

[aaron11]

11 hours ago, Surge89 said:

 

I think his point is this forum has about 20 football minds that are significantly better than what he could hope for and somehow he is a former Exec of the year.  

 

It's mind boggling lol.

i get what you are saying and i dont trash him too much these days.  its better to move on

 

i will say that his draft picks were pretty bad though, most of them are not here any more.  we could have thrown darts at a draft board and done as well as he did over the last few years.

[Valpo2004]

He made enough money from his Colts gig to retire on easily.  If I where him instead of potentially embarrassing myself further I think I would just retire and enjoy my life.  

 

Just fade back into obscurity.