PrincetonTiger Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 It is being reported that Vontae did not make the trip to Houston and is out for Sunday’s Game because of non injury reasons Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad72 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Wow, what the heck are we going to do with DeAndre Hopkins then? I guess a Belichick like approach, Melvin and Butler rotated to him, with a lot of jamming at the line of scrimmage. Savage won't get out of the pocket, so you can blitz him more. Fuller needs a QB with an arm worth something, can be streaky but not as consistent a home run hitter like with Watson, so he can be handled with Quincy Wilson or Hairston, IMO, as long as you have to play D only within the first 10-15 yards of guarding him. Once you give too much time to any QB without any pass rush, it would be harder to keep up with Hopkins and Fuller as the field gets extended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted November 4, 2017 Author Share Posted November 4, 2017 Just now, chad72 said: Wow, what the heck are we going to do with DeAndre Hopkins then? I guess a Belichick like approach, Melvin and Butler rotated to him, with a lot of jamming at the line of scrimmage. Savage won't get out of the pocket, so you can blitz him more. Fuller needs a QB with an arm worth something, can be streaky but not as consistent a home run hitter like with Watson, so he can be handled with Quincy Wilson or Hairston, IMO, as long as you have to play D only within the first 10-15 yards of guarding him. Once you give too much time to any QB without any pass rush, it would be harder to keep up with Hopkins and Fuller as the field gets extended. Savage will take care of the WRs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will426 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Just now, chad72 said: Wow, what the heck are we going to do with DeAndre Hopkins then? I guess a Belichick like approach, Melvin and Butler rotated to him, with a lot of jamming at the line of scrimmage. Savage won't get out of the pocket, so you can blitz him more. Fuller needs a QB with an arm worth something, can be streaky but not as consistent a home run hitter like with Watson, so he can be handled with Quincy Wilson or Hairston, IMO, as long as you have to play D only within the first 10-15 yards of guarding him. Once you give too much time to any QB without any pass rush, it would be harder to keep up with Hopkins and Fuller as the field gets extended. We will not be Doing any of that we will play Zone and Hopkins will take the catch and run..fuller will run deep and catch 3 75yd tds..jacoby will get sacked 7 times and Chuds gonna have us run up the middle first and second down every drive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will426 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Just now, PrincetonTiger said: Savage will take care of the WRs Exactly he's especially know to throw it nonstop to Hopkins no matter the coverage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted November 4, 2017 Author Share Posted November 4, 2017 1 minute ago, will426 said: Exactly he's especially know to throw it nonstop to Hopkins no matter the coverage The QB will be Tom Savage If he was a great QB the team would have never drafted Watson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted November 4, 2017 Author Share Posted November 4, 2017 Was there a death in the family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted November 4, 2017 Author Share Posted November 4, 2017 5 minutes ago, chad72 said: Wow, what the heck are we going to do with DeAndre Hopkins then? I guess a Belichick like approach, Melvin and Butler rotated to him, with a lot of jamming at the line of scrimmage. Savage won't get out of the pocket, so you can blitz him more. Fuller needs a QB with an arm worth something, can be streaky but not as consistent a home run hitter like with Watson, so he can be handled with Quincy Wilson or Hairston, IMO, as long as you have to play D only within the first 10-15 yards of guarding him. Once you give too much time to any QB without any pass rush, it would be harder to keep up with Hopkins and Fuller as the field gets extended. Everything Will Be Okay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will426 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said: The QB will be Tom Savage If he was a great QB the team would have never drafted Watson Never said he was great he's forceful to Hopkins always has been he feeds him the ball nonstop and with the way we play 10 yards off he will have a good day..I mean look at what bortles did vs our zone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chad72 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said: The QB will be Tom Savage If he was a great QB the team would have never drafted Watson Yeah, Tom Savage's agent was up in arms after his benching in game 1. I am sure both his agent and Savage are nervous, now that they know Watson can do. That is why Savage made the pre-emptive statement "no one can replace Watson" which meant, IMO, "I am no DeShaun Watson and don't expect anything close to his production from me". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted November 4, 2017 Author Share Posted November 4, 2017 1 minute ago, will426 said: Never said he was great he's forceful to Hopkins always has been he feeds him the ball nonstop and with the way we play 10 yards off he will have a good day..I mean look at what bortles did vs our zone Bortles > Savage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted November 4, 2017 Author Share Posted November 4, 2017 1 minute ago, chad72 said: Yeah, Tom Savage's agent was up in arms after his benching in game 1. I am sure both his agent and Savage are nervous, now that they know Watson can do. That is why Savage made the pre-emptive statement "no one can replace Watson" which meant, IMO, "I am no DeShaun Watson and don't expect anything close to his production from me". The same thing happened to Mike Glennon in Chicago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will426 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said: Bortles > Savage You're saying that as if every qb we've faced hasn't had a good game versus us? besides Palmer that is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmopar Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted November 4, 2017 Author Share Posted November 4, 2017 1 minute ago, will426 said: You're saying that as if every qb we've faced hasn't had a good game versus us? besides Palmer that is No I am saying that as someone who watches games as an Offensive Coach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IinD Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Can we get to January already and put this season to bed for good. Hopefully he's ok, but we are losing guys left and right this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted November 4, 2017 Author Share Posted November 4, 2017 Just now, IinD said: Can we get to January already and put this season to bed for good. Hopefully he's ok, but we are losing guys left and right this season. From what I have read there seems to be some kind of personal problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
throwing BBZ Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Might as well save his body since they didn't trade him to a contender. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterBowman Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 I know the trade deadline is up but could they still be trying to trade him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted November 4, 2017 Author Share Posted November 4, 2017 Just now, PeterBowman said: I know the trade deadline is up but could they still be trying to trade him? Not possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
will426 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 9 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said: No I am saying that as someone who watches games as an Offensive Coach But do you understand my point that he forces the ball to Hopkins...? If we're playing that same 10 yard off coverage Zone on Hopkins don't you think they'll severely take advantage of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coltsfeva Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 11 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said: Everything Will Be Okay I appreciate this every time I see it. Ultimately, everything will be ok. We can’t expect to win a SB every year. As hard as this year has been, we can see progress, if we look for it. If all we get this year is depth and experience well, okay. I’m hoping for a long term optimistic outlook to emerge as the pieces come together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted November 4, 2017 Author Share Posted November 4, 2017 1 minute ago, PeterBowman said: I know the trade deadline is up but could they still be trying to trade him? Pure Speculation: He was benched after refusing to take a demotion or something happened in his family Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted November 4, 2017 Author Share Posted November 4, 2017 1 minute ago, will426 said: But do you understand my point that he forces the ball to Hopkins...? If we're playing that same 10 yard off coverage Zone on Hopkins don't you think they'll severely take advantage of it? Yes but not sure TS can do it consistently Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dw49 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 26 minutes ago, chad72 said: Wow, what the heck are we going to do with DeAndre Hopkins then? I guess a Belichick like approach, Melvin and Butler rotated to him, with a lot of jamming at the line of scrimmage. Savage won't get out of the pocket, so you can blitz him more. Fuller needs a QB with an arm worth something, can be streaky but not as consistent a home run hitter like with Watson, so he can be handled with Quincy Wilson or Hairston, IMO, as long as you have to play D only within the first 10-15 yards of guarding him. Once you give too much time to any QB without any pass rush, it would be harder to keep up with Hopkins and Fuller as the field gets extended. Quincy Wilson has already been ruled out for Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted November 4, 2017 Author Share Posted November 4, 2017 1 minute ago, dw49 said: Quincy Wilson has already been ruled out for Sunday. If QW is not injured he might be activated Sunday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dw49 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 1 minute ago, PrincetonTiger said: If QW is not injured he might be activated Sunday He's out with a knee injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted November 4, 2017 Author Share Posted November 4, 2017 1 minute ago, dw49 said: He's out with a knee injury. Thanks Melvin and Desir will start Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockThatBlue Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 28 minutes ago, will426 said: Never said he was great he's forceful to Hopkins always has been he feeds him the ball nonstop and with the way we play 10 yards off he will have a good day..I mean look at what bortles did vs our zone Yup. We make bad QBs look good all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1959Colts Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 I'd like to see them give Kenny Moore II an opportunity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueShoe Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 40 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said: Savage will take care of the WRs Savage might have a career day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted November 4, 2017 Author Share Posted November 4, 2017 Just now, 1959Colts said: I'd like to see them give Kenny Moore II an opportunity. I wonder if that is why he was left at home Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueShoe Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 It doesn’t really matter who we suit up at his point. The 2017 Colts defense is capable of making any quarterback look great, and that is with Vontae in the lineup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RockThatBlue Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, BlueShoe said: Savage might have a career day. Sad but true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IinD Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 8 minutes ago, BlueShoe said: Savage might have a career day. Lol...the Colts D is always medicine for a struggling offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted November 4, 2017 Author Share Posted November 4, 2017 1 minute ago, IinD said: Lol...the Colts D is always medicine for a struggling offense. Not just the Colts this year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luck is Good Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Can’t there be just one year where the Colts stay healthy? It hasn’t happened in my lifetime and it probably never will Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrincetonTiger Posted November 4, 2017 Author Share Posted November 4, 2017 Just now, Luck is Good said: Can’t there be just one year where the Colts stay healthy? It hasn’t happened in my lifetime and it probably never will Not sure this is health related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Waylon Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 Oh. Ok then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueblood23 Posted November 4, 2017 Share Posted November 4, 2017 30 minutes ago, dw49 said: He's out with a knee injury. I wonder how many more games he will miss with this knee injury? Is it a chronic problem or some type of ligament issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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