Tolzien will do just fine...It's defense that worries me..

[zibby43]

I expect the Colts to pound the football.  The Steelers run D is average, at best.  They constantly have to bring up safeties to run blitz and if the opposing offense can get hats on hats at the line of scrimmage, it's possible to hit big play runs on the Steelers. 

 

I also expect the play-action passing game to be a pleasant surprise.

 

If Morris was starting, I think his ability to extend plays with his size and athleticism would give the Steelers fits. 

 

Regardless, this game will be much closer than people think, and I expect the Colts to rise to the occasion.

[WoolMagnet]

I would imagine the Tolzster is more prepared for an NFL game.

i seemed to remember he had a few moments in the preseason.  He's a kinda boring player.  But that's not all bad in a backup.

we have weapons on offense.  Feed gore and turbin, and give the QB some quick slants and utilize our TEs.  The receivers can certainly open up the middle.  The steelers will be coming after the QB, play after play.  Give Scott a solid game plan and hope for the best.  It's all we can do.

  Morris looks so calm and natural.  Reminds me a lil of Winston. Effortless arm, and pretty mobile.  While I think he's not as ready as Scott, if things don't go well for the Tolzster , put Morris in.  What's to lose really.  Let Morris go in and sling it and run around. You never know.

 

[oldunclemark]

5 hours ago, tfunky14 said:

I'm not real concern with starting Tolzien as the Steelers defense is not that good at all. The Colts will score points but I'm more concern with the Colt's defense and containing the Steelers's Offense.

You're really not concerned about Tolzien.........?? Seriously.

I hope he's as confident as you are......

 

Frank Gore's got to have a big night

[AZColt11]

 

3 hours ago, tfunky14 said:

I know preseason 

 

but i I do know the Steelers defense is ranked 26th

They are 26th in passing yards allowed, 22nd in total yards, but 9th in rushing yards, and 12th in ppg.  Unfortunately, we probably won't be able to take advantage of their weakness in the defensive passing game.  With Luck they would have stood more than a chance.

[ColtStrong]

5 hours ago, The Peytonator said:

If I've learned anything through the years of watching football, it's that football is weird. It would not shock me to see Tolzien put up 4 TDs, pull out a freak win, and for everyone on the forum to be questioning if Luck is overrated. Pittsburgh will not have much film on the guy, and that plays to our advantage.

 

Stranger things have happened than for a career backup QB to come in and beat a .500 team at home.

Well said.

[IinD]

Tolzien has 1 Completion for 4 yards the last 3 years combined. 

 

I'm not confident he'll be just fine.

 

Could have won this in a dog fight with Luck I feel. 

 

This guy will have a hard time playing QB for 60 minutes with that resume.

 

Oh and happy thanksgiving people...

[2006Coltsbestever]

7 hours ago, Jules said:

With Luck I was absolutely convinced we were going to pull the upset in a big night game at home. 

 

Now? I have no idea what to think of this Tolzien, sigh.........well he can't be worse then Curtis Painter.

 

Makes me miss Big Bad Charlie Whitehurst  

[Dingus McGirt]

"On any given Sunday....or Thanksgiving Thursday,"

in this case.

[krunk]

I really hate that Geathers isn't playing. He sets a tone for the tackling and energy level of that defense. He and Edwin Jackson play with the most energy of anyone on that D. I actually have decent amount of faith in this D. To me Ted is a better DC than Manusky. The guys are getting better and better each game. Discipline and tackling specifically. I think the D will do its part. Ben can still throw but I don't think he can run like he used to. If we can craft better ways of getting pressures on him than Manusky did we can stymie him some. I'm not going to give up yet. If Tolzien and everybody else can just play with some focus and execute their jobs we have a chance. Hopefully Chud designs an offensive game plan that gives Tolzien a lot of outlets. He will play within the bounds of the offense I think. And unlike Hasslebeck hes got ability to throw the deep ball. The key will be if we can craft a really good game plan to protect Scott and give him time to work.

[superrep1967]

15 hours ago, jvan1973 said:

What have you seen from Tolzien to.make you think he will be able to move the ball?  They will stack the box and blitz the whole game

 

Really????

[superrep1967]

7 hours ago, ColtStrong said:

Well said.

Yeah and could come out and stink up the place too. 

[coltsfeva]

I hope the team is tired of hearing this is a one man show. Time to play together as a team. Good game planning will be critical. Even if the Colts loose this one, this season is far from over 

[colts8718]

 Pitt 34-7 and a happy thanksgiving to all 

[krunk]

We still need to be aggressive and take the necessary down field shots when available. Have Scott sling it deep a couple times early. Set a tone early that says we ain't laying down easily.

[krunk]

I dont feel like giving up. I want to fight.

[GoColtsWin]

16 hours ago, 1959Colts said:

 

The Steelers defense gave the Browns fits with stunts and blitzes. 

Our Achilles heel.

Absolutely true unfortunately. Hopefully the staff can adjust. 

[BigQandTheManiac]

Shoot I say throw Pat  mcAfee  out there at qb. I wouldn't be surprised if the boom stick was actually kinda decent. I kid.....kinda.

[Coltsman1788]

Come on Indy.  Sack up and open up the roof!  Let the elements play a factor tonight. Its our only hope of slowing down that Pittsburgh offense.  Our secondary needs every help it can get.  Sometimes that's what you need to do.  Make this an ugly game. Plays right into our hands tonight.  Ball control game with Gore...short passing attack managed by Tolzien...control time of possession.  Make Pittsburgh's high flying offense have to try and beat us on the ground or if they want to pass then make them do it throwing into the cold and rain. 

[Gavin]

Highly unlikely to be a blow out.

[oldunclemark]

4 hours ago, colts8718 said:

 Pitt 34-7 and a happy thanksgiving to all 

You and I have different definitions of the word 'happy'

[oldunclemark]

2 hours ago, krunk said:

We still need to be aggressive and take the necessary down field shots when available. Have Scott sling it deep a couple times early. Set a tone early that says we ain't laying down easily.

The best thing is, at a certain point Thursday night, we may have nothing to lose

[ColtStrong]

6 hours ago, superrep1967 said:

Yeah and could come out and stink up the place too. 

Thanks Captain Obvious. And the world could get hit by a meteor. I could win the lottery. I could catch a cold tomorrow. So?

[colts8718]

2 hours ago, oldunclemark said:

You and I have different definitions of the word 'happy'

LOL  

 

[krunk]

Tolzien might be alright with the starters as long as we don't put the whole game on his back. Every unit has to do their part in helping him. Watched some of the Baltimore and Cincy preseason games. He plays within the scheme and I liked how in sync he is with his footwork and the timing of the throw. Goes through all his progressions and gets the ball out quickly is what I noticed. Knows what hes doing. We just have to support the guy. Ain't saying we will win but I want Pitt to know we ain't giving them our heads in a platter.

[jvan1973]

3 hours ago, Gavin said:

Highly unlikely to be a blow out.

How is it unlikely to be a blow out?

[Colts_Fan12]

56 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:

How is it unlikely to be a blow out?

I was thinking the same thing 

[AKB]

1 hour ago, Colts_Fan12 said:

I was thinking the same thing 

I wasn't thinking the same thing.

 

This isn't the same team they blew out before, and our scheme on defense seems to be coming together. 

[ColtStrong]

Krunk said:

Tolzien might be alright with the starters as long as we don't put the whole game on his back. Every unit has to do their part in helping him. Watched some of the Baltimore and Cincy preseason games. He plays within the scheme and I liked how in sync he is with his footwork and the timing of the throw. Goes through all his progressions and gets the ball out quickly is what I noticed. Knows what hes doing. We just have to support the guy. Ain't saying we will win but I want Pitt to know we ain't giving them our heads in a platter.

 

Me: 

I basically agree. Listen, I don't feel great about our chances, but I'm not going to be a Debbie downer and give up even before the game starts. Just when you think a team has no chance, they rally and come together. 

 

Last week, everybody in the world was picking the Titans because they dismantled the Packers. Look what happened. If our D comes out and plays good and the O can play well within Scott's abilities, who knows. Pitt is not an unstoppable force this year. Their D is a bit suspect, and we should have some scoring opportunities.

[Colts_Fan12]

27 minutes ago, AustinnKaine said:

I wasn't thinking the same thing.

 

This isn't the same team they blew out before, and our scheme on defense seems to be coming together. 

Your right it's not the same team this D is worse 

[Gavin]

3 hours ago, jvan1973 said:

How is it unlikely to be a blow out?

There just aren't many of those in the NFL really. You have a handful of them a season out of over 250 total games a year. Depending on what you consider a blow out anyway. If Scott can just manage the game and avoid turnovers we should avoid getting blown out. The real concern to me is the defense. If we keep it under 3 TD's that's not a blowout to me and I think we do that

 

If Tolzien is given time then I expect a respectable performance. Something like 175-200 yards 1 td and 1 pick. Just complete enough passes to get us in field goal range multiple times.  Defense has to get a turnover or 2

 

Now if one unit does not hold up their end of the deal then yes things will get ugly. I just think we will be fine in this game.

[AKB]

10 minutes ago, Colts_Fan12 said:

Your right it's not the same team this D is worse 

Stats wise it is worse, but with an entirely new scheme being implemented is it actually worse?

 

Is Patrick Robinson an upgrade over Toler?

Is Geathers worse than Lowery?

Has the defensive line gotten worse? No it has not, the same players are starting, and we have Jones back for depth.

Has our slot corner regressed? No he has not. 

Has Mike Adams been amazing? No he hasn't, but has he been worse than last year? No he has not.

The only thing we are missing is Jerrell Freeman, and with EJ playing the way he has been, I'd say we are not worse, I would argue; despite the numbers, we have a better defense. 

[krunk]

10 minutes ago, AustinnKaine said:

Stats wise it is worse, but with an entirely new scheme being implemented is it actually worse?

 

Is Patrick Robinson an upgrade over Toler?

Is Geathers worse than Lowery?

Has the defensive line gotten worse? No it has not, the same players are starting, and we have Jones back for depth.

Has our slot corner regressed? No he has not. 

Has Mike Adams been amazing? No he hasn't, but has he been worse than last year? No he has not.

The only thing we are missing is Jerrell Freeman, and with EJ playing the way he has been, I'd say we are not worse, I would argue; despite the numbers, we have a better defense. 

he will always give you the same tired answers. He want the team to lose any way so the answers will never be reasonable

[Colts_Fan12]

37 minutes ago, AustinnKaine said:

Stats wise it is worse, but with an entirely new scheme being implemented is it actually worse?

 

Is Patrick Robinson an upgrade over Toler?

Is Geathers worse than Lowery?

Has the defensive line gotten worse? No it has not, the same players are starting, and we have Jones back for depth.

Has our slot corner regressed? No he has not. 

Has Mike Adams been amazing? No he hasn't, but has he been worse than last year? No he has not.

The only thing we are missing is Jerrell Freeman, and with EJ playing the way he has been, I'd say we are not worse, I would argue; despite the numbers, we have a better defense. 

Zero Pass rush and the linebackers are noneexistent that alone makes them worse and tolerance and Robinson are about the same both play decent then can turn around and be complete trash 

[Colts_Fan12]

27 minutes ago, krunk said:

he will always give you the same tired answers. He want the team to lose any way so the answers will never be reasonable

What did I say that was false? the D isn't better 

[AKB]

Just now, Colts_Fan12 said:

Zero Pass rush and the linebackers are noneexistent that alone makes them worse and tolerance and Robinson are about the same both play decent then can turn around and be complete trash 

yeah because our pass rush was better last year?

 

lol im done..

[AKB]

2 minutes ago, AustinnKaine said:

yeah because our pass rush was better last year?

 

lol im done..

btw we are 15th in sacks... we finished 23rd last year. you make 0 sense.

[Austin Leonard]

It hasn't been pretty,but the scheme seems to be coming along better so everyone knows their  job,the pressure has stepped up,we just got 5 sacks on a very mobile Mariota,Ben hasn't been as mobile with the bad knee so get  him off his spot and things might happen

[Colts_Fan12]

2 minutes ago, AustinnKaine said:

yeah because our pass rush was better last year?

 

lol im done..

It's older and worse this year atleast we had youth in Newsome I'm not arguing with Homers with blue glasses 

[AKB]

3 minutes ago, Colts_Fan12 said:

It's older and worse this year atleast we had youth in Newsome I'm not arguing with Homers with blue glasses 

Look up the sack totals before you just spew things out of your mouth and present them as facts. We are on pace for 40+ sacks this year, we sit at 22 currently, and we finished with 35 last season.

 

You are wrong, put simply.

[oldunclemark]

On ‎11‎/‎23‎/‎2016 at 2:29 PM, tfunky14 said:

I'm not real concern with starting Tolzien as the Steelers defense is not that good at all. 

wow