Defensive Co-ordinator choices

[chad72]

Who would you like for the next defensive co-ordinator?

 

I'd like Jim Schwartz, personally.

[Jackie Daytona]

Doug Marrone, Schwartz, or Pettine

[Jackie Daytona]

I prefer Pettine..... experienced, young.....has coached some awfully good Defenses

[indyagent17]

Schwartz took a job with the league already

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000494040/article/jim-schwartz-takes-job-working-with-nfl-officials

[ColtsBlueFL]

Mike Smith.

 

He needs a job and if the Dolphins don't work out and the HC phone isn't ringing...

 

Jim Schwartz if he can become available too.

[Superman]

3 minutes ago, indyagent17 said:

Schwartz took a job with the league already

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000494040/article/jim-schwartz-takes-job-working-with-nfl-officials

 

That was in May, for the season. I'm pretty sure it wasn't meant to be a long term thing.

[HungarianColtsFan]

I'd go with Jim Schwartz. Browns folk didn't pan out well in Indy recently...so I'd pass on Pettine (seriously, their D wasn't that good).

[chad72]

4 minutes ago, indyagent17 said:

Schwartz took a job with the league already

 

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000494040/article/jim-schwartz-takes-job-working-with-nfl-officials

 

He may be available if asked, doesn't hurt :).

[Dustin]

4 minutes ago, Shafty138 said:

Doug Marrone, Schwartz, or Pettine

 

Doug Marrone. Defensive mastermind.

[bababooey]

1 minute ago, Dustin said:

 

Doug Marrone. Defensive mastermind.

He thought he was getting that Chicago job and it backfired, I wouldn't hate it. I'd love the Mangenius.

[ColtsBlueFL]

1 minute ago, chad72 said:

 

He may be available if asked, doesn't hurt :).

 

Let's ask Mike Smith too.  Maybe the Miami thing won't work out...

 

 

 

[MTC]

Is Pagano not allowed to call his own schemes/plays?

[Superman]

5 minutes ago, bababooey said:

He thought he was getting that Chicago job and it backfired, I wouldn't hate it. 

 

He's an offensive coach.

[Superman]

1 minute ago, MTC said:

Is Pagano not allowed to call his own schemes/plays?

 

Are you suggesting not having a defensive coordinator?

[MTC]

Just now, Superman said:

 

Are you suggesting not having a defensive coordinator?

 

I mean if Pagano is truly a "defensive mastermind" , why not?

[Jason_]

6 minutes ago, bababooey said:

He thought he was getting that Chicago job and it backfired, I wouldn't hate it. I'd love the Mangenius.

 

Marrone has never coached on the defensive side of the ball.  Prior to being a HC, he spent most of his time coaching the OL and TE.

 

My preference would be either Pettine or Ray Horton.  One thing I just thought of was that Pagano's first choice for DC was Keith Butler from Pitt.  But Butler wound up declining because he was promised the Pitt DC position as soon as LeBeau retired.   Horton is also a Pitt/LeBeau disciple and he was Chud's DC in Cleveland. 

[Dustin]

I really doubt that he would be fired if Pagano didn't have someone else in mind already.

 

 

[bababooey]

4 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

He's an offensive coach.

Should have realized it was a joke. Didn't realize he took an OL job. Gimme the Mangenius.

[Superman]

2 minutes ago, MTC said:

 

I mean if Pagano is truly a "defensive mastermind" , why not?

 

I don't think Pagano has ever been referred to as a defensive mastermind.

 

Even if he was, every team in the NFL has coordinators. Even head coaches who call plays still have coordinators. Offensive masterminds still have offensive coordinators. Defensive masterminds still have defensive coordinators. Why would the Colts be any different?

[Gavin]

Mike Pettine...Regardless who is brought in we need talent. I'm sure not expecting the next d coordinator to perform any miracles here. I'd like an aggressive and innovative coach

[coltsva]

Is this the resume of a mastermind? Seems like the guy is great in interviews.

1984–1985	Southern California (graduate assistant)
1986	Miami (Florida) (graduate assistant)
1987–1988	Boise State (linebackers)
1989	East Carolina (defensive backs)
1990–1991	UNLV (1990) (defensive backs) (1991) (defensive coordinator)
1992–1994	East Carolina (defensive backs/ linebackers)
1995–2000	Miami (Florida) (defensive backs/ special teams)
2001–2004	Cleveland Browns (secondary)
2005–2006	Oakland Raiders (defensive backs)
2007	North Carolina (defensive coordinator)
2008–2011	Baltimore Ravens (2008–2010) (secondary) (2011) (defensive coordinator)
2012–present	Indianapolis Colts (head coach)

[MTC]

3 minutes ago, Superman said:

 

I don't think Pagano has ever been referred to as a defensive mastermind.

 

Even if he was, every team in the NFL has coordinators. Even head coaches who call plays still have coordinators. Offensive masterminds still have offensive coordinators. Defensive masterminds still have defensive coordinators. Why would the Colts be any different?

 

I know. Colts will hire a DC, but I would like Pagano to take control of the defense.

[CR91]

Here's a curve ball. Reggie herring. He's the LBer coach for the broncos. Look at what he's done with Miller trevathan Marshall irving

[lennymoore24]

I don't think you hire Pagano to be a defensive mastermind.  He is a leader of men and hopefully can delegate to coaches.  I don't think Manusky was creative enough.

[UKColt13]

Jim Schwartz or Doug Marrone

[Jason_]

1 minute ago, UKColt13 said:

Jim Schwartz or Doug Marrone

 

What if I told you that Doug Marrone has never coached on the defensive side of the ball?  

[UKColt13]

Ahh apologies, I've probably got the wrong name

[Jason_]

2 minutes ago, UKColt13 said:

Ahh apologies, I've probably got the wrong name

 

strong possibility

 

[Indeee]

33 minutes ago, MTC said:

 

I mean if Pagano is truly a "defensive mastermind" , why not?

What?????? Paggs coached DB's... Ha!! Easiest onfield coaching there is second to kicker training

[ColtsBlueFL]

Anyone remember Jack Del Rio's DC in Jax vs Peyton and our Colts?

 

Jacksonville Jaguars Under Mike Smith as Defensive Coordinator

Year       Points Allowed     Ranked
2003            20.7 ppg          18th
2004            17.5 ppg            7th
2005            16.8 ppg            6th
2006             17.1 ppg           4th
2007             19.0 ppg          10th
2008             22.9 ppg          21st

 

And he has HC experience.  I'll take him as the 4-3 expert in our hybrid 3-4, where Chuck can be the 3-4 expert.

 

[Indeee]

Look, Pettine is the choice if we want to continue building the "Monster". Pettine will bring bulldog fire, Mike Smith just smiles and looks lost, shwartz looks confused and doug marone???? seriously? Irsay last night said we we're going to get younger, not older and geriatric... Ha!!

[Goatface Killah]

Mike Pettine 

 

He has been a DC for 5 years of his career. Top 10 every year. 

 

He makes sense, but we better jump if we want him because Baltimore is also looking for a new DC. 

 

Plus he might help us land Alex Mack or Tashaun Gipson in free agency if we want either of them.

 

Ray Horton is also an interesting name. My concern with him is that he's been with 3 different teams since 2011, and he is looking for a job yet again. There is something going on with him.

[bap1331]

Pettine would b perfect. His resume is impressive and he will most likely be here long term since no one is likely to pick him up as a head coach again.

 

Pick up any other coordinator and he will be gone just like Bruce arians.

[BOTT]

26 minutes ago, GoatBeard said:

Mike Pettine 

 

He has been a DC for 5 years of his career. Top 10 every year. 

 

He makes sense, but we better jump if we want him because Baltimore is also looking for a new DC. 

 

Plus he might help us land Alex Mack or Tashaun Gipson in free agency if we want either of them.

 

Ray Horton is also an interesting name. My concern with him is that he's been with 3 different teams since 2011, and he is looking for a job yet again. There is something going on with him.

Dean Pees was fired?

[lennymoore24]

49 minutes ago, GoatBeard said:

Mike Pettine 

 

He has been a DC for 5 years of his career. Top 10 every year. 

 

He makes sense, but we better jump if we want him because Baltimore is also looking for a new DC. 

 

Plus he might help us land Alex Mack or Tashaun Gipson in free agency if we want either of them.

 

Ray Horton is also an interesting name. My concern with him is that he's been with 3 different teams since 2011, and he is looking for a job yet again. There is something going on with him.

 

I think what hurt Ray Horton was in Arizona he felt he should be the HC after Whisenhunt was fired and made that pretty public.  He ended up being replaced when Arians came in.

[VaAllDay757]

2 hours ago, ColtsBlueFL said:

Anyone remember Jack Del Rio's DC in Jax vs Peyton and our Colts?

 

Jacksonville Jaguars Under Mike Smith as Defensive Coordinator

Year       Points Allowed     Ranked
2003            20.7 ppg          18th
2004            17.5 ppg            7th
2005            16.8 ppg            6th
2006             17.1 ppg           4th
2007             19.0 ppg          10th
2008             22.9 ppg          21st

 

And he has HC experience.  I'll take him as the 4-3 expert in our hybrid 3-4, where Chuck can be the 3-4 expert.

 

No no no mike smith has been lucky in his years in coaching with the talent he's worked with I wouldn't take him as a DC

[Superman]

54 minutes ago, BOTT said:

Dean Pees was fired?

 

No. 

 

Maybe his contract is up. Maybe he'll get fired. As of right now, he's still there.

[Superman]

1 hour ago, GoatBeard said:

Ray Horton is also an interesting name. My concern with him is that he's been with 3 different teams since 2011, and he is looking for a job yet again. There is something going on with him.

 

He got mad at being passed up for the head job in AZ and asked to be released. Went to Cleveland with Chud, who was fired after a year. Then got back with Whisenhunt in Tennessee, who was fired.

 

Horton jumping around isn't his fault. Maybe he was petulant in leaving AZ, but it was inconsequential as Arians was probably going to bring his own guy in anyways.

[ColtsBlueFL]

6 minutes ago, VaAllDay757 said:

No no no mike smith has been lucky in his years in coaching with the talent he's worked with I wouldn't take him as a DC

 

I just can't take 'lucky' as reason.  I was told by many Arians was 'Lucky' to have the Colts players for his Head Coach debut, and would be garbage in Arizona.   Hmmmmm....

 

Sorry, I'll stick with production metrics over 'lucky' reports for now.

[scooter4910]

We're not intimidating enough....I nominate Frost Giant Jarl for DC.