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http://espn.go.com/espn/commentary/story/_/id/7396880/jim-caldwell-colts-playing-luck-win

I found this article on ESPN and I thought it was very interesting. It says that if the Colts win on Sunday, it would be the costliest win in Colts history. I know we've debated this ad nauseum but I don't want the team to lay down and lose the final game against the Jags but I won't be mad if they do lose. I wouldn't be surprised if the Jags tank this one so they wouldn't have to face Peyton Manning 2.0 for another 10+ years.

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Isn't that what everyone said when they faced the Saints. The game is in St Louis, and they're motivated to spoil their party.

Spoil what party? San Fran is already headed for the playoffs. The only party that could be spoiled would be getting the first round bye, but even that isn't a huge deal. The only way I see St. Louis winning this game is if San Fran decides to pull their starters out at halftime.

Back to the original topic, I kind of agree. We could lose on out Luck, but that doesn't mean we won't get another solid QB that will help us win playoff games and championships. Facing Peyton Manning would be terrible, but Manning isn't the only style of QB in the league. There are scramblers like Vick and Rodgers, guys who are flat footed and cool in the pocket like Brady, guys that are insanely accurate like Brees, and more. Manning is a very successful QB, but not the only successful QB. Not having Luck doesn't mean we would become perennial losers

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Spoil what party? San Fran is already headed for the playoffs. The only party that could be spoiled would be getting the first round bye, but even that isn't a huge deal. The only way I see St. Louis winning this game is if San Fran decides to pull their starters out at halftime.

Well that's what I mean, their first round bye, that is very important. They skip a week and they get a game at home. They want that. The way they can win, is if they force turnovers, just like they did to Brees. Alex Smith hasn't done it this year, but he's done it in the past. Force turnovers and they win.

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http://espn.go.com/e...laying-luck-win

I found this article on ESPN and I thought it was very interesting. It says that if the Colts win on Sunday, it would be the costliest win in Colts history. I know we've debated this ad nauseum but I don't want the team to lay down and lose the final game against the Jags but I won't be mad if they do lose. I wouldn't be surprised if the Jags tank this one so they wouldn't have to face Peyton Manning 2.0 for another 10+ years.

I sort of feel the same way. I'll root for the Colts to win the game. But if we lose, I won't be too upset. Likewise, if we win, I'll be proud of the effort and satisfied with the #2 pick.

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i really dont wanna be known as the franchise that won three pointless games and missed out in drafting luck.

I also don't to be known as the team that gave up. Missing out will be easier on the franchise amongst other fans that losing on purpose. Want to be known as the next Spygate?

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I also don't to be known as the team that gave up. Missing out will be easier on the franchise amongst other fans that losing on purpose. Want to be known as the next Spygate?

never said to lose on purpose. winning three games would be very costly for this franchise in the long run

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http://espn.go.com/e...laying-luck-win

I found this article on ESPN and I thought it was very interesting. It says that if the Colts win on Sunday, it would be the costliest win in Colts history. I know we've debated this ad nauseum but I don't want the team to lay down and lose the final game against the Jags but I won't be mad if they do lose. I wouldn't be surprised if the Jags tank this one so they wouldn't have to face Peyton Manning 2.0 for another 10+ years.

Maybe both teams will try to "tank" this game and it will end in a 0 to 0 tie.
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I was just starting to warm up to drafting Luck and now we decide to go on a meaningless win streak and mess things up. Caldwell still needs to go. Why would you keep anyone who took 14 games to learn how to win 1?

16-3 in 2009,,,,10-7 in 2010....

with Manning..who'll be back in 2012....That's obviously the rationale for keeping JC

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If you just want to see Peyton play, why would that mean that Luck has to be overrated... the vindictive nature of some of this is really funny on one hand. "How dare he get drafted by the Colts and end up as a great qb... I'm gonna root against that"

The funny thing about all this Luck crap is that just last april not a single Colts fan even had the slightest thought in their mind of drafting our "new franchise QB".

Now its tunnel vision and this perverted sense of imminent need. I don't get it?

I think you're skewing the opinions of some. The inherent danger in drafting Luck is....if he isn't a great freaking QB, I mean an awesome QB, we just >>>ed our franchise for the next XX years. It's not that I hope he flops to prove my point. I hope we don't draft him because of the danger posed by such a risky move.

It's been said for years that the window of opportunity for another SB with Manning closing fast. To a point where its become rather cliche. If they draft Luck, they manually close that window by choice, and I find that to be disturbing to say the least. Not that it wouldn't be possible to win one or two, but we sure wouldn't be helping him (Manning).

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Spoil what party? San Fran is already headed for the playoffs. The only party that could be spoiled would be getting the first round bye, but even that isn't a huge deal. The only way I see St. Louis winning this game is if San Fran decides to pull their starters out at halftime.

Back to the original topic, I kind of agree. We could lose on out Luck, but that doesn't mean we won't get another solid QB that will help us win playoff games and championships. Facing Peyton Manning would be terrible, but Manning isn't the only style of QB in the league. There are scramblers like Vick and Rodgers, guys who are flat footed and cool in the pocket like Brady, guys that are insanely accurate like Brees, and more. Manning is a very successful QB, but not the only successful QB. Not having Luck doesn't mean we would become perennial losers

Jim harbaugh coaches them not Jim Caldwell, starters will play! And if a meddling GM told Harbaugh to pull starters and he did'nt want to ,he would tell him to pound sand.
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The funny thing about all this Luck crap is that just last april not a single Colts fan even had the slightest thought in their mind of drafting our "new franchise QB".

Now its tunnel vision and this perverted sense of imminent need. I don't get it?

I think you're skewing the opinions of some. The inherent danger in drafting Luck is....if he isn't a great freaking QB, I mean an awesome QB, we just >>>ed our franchise for the next XX years. It's not that I hope he flops to prove my point. I hope we don't draft him because of the danger posed by such a risky move.

It's been said for years that the window of opportunity for another SB with Manning closing fast. To a point where its become rather cliche. If they draft Luck, they manually close that window by choice, and I find that to be disturbing to say the least. Not that it wouldn't be possible to win one or two, but we sure wouldn't be helping him (Manning).

Sorry to bust your bubble but the window with Manning has already shut. Not going to happen. Too much rebuilding to do in a short time span and will probably take Peyton a while to get to the old Peyton level if he ever does. Drafting a QB high in the draft is always risky no matter who it is but I think it's worth the risk when football guys that know a lot more than me or you say Luck is the best prospect in a decade. Can't afford NOT to take the risk.

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It's true Luck wasn't on the radar until, somewhere around week 8 I think it was for me. But he is. I don't really think we know for a fact that the window is shut or still open as far as how the team and Peyton next season respond, because the Luck pick if we get it isn't going to be the primary issue next season regardless. I'd say roll the dice and take Luck.

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My hope is for the Colts to win, the Rams to lose and Luck to turn out to be highly overrated.

Could happen, but with that scenario the Colts still lose. If they get the first pick and trade down (my choice) they could get a bundle of picks and hopefully 2 or 3 of them will turn out to be qualty players and give the Colts greater value than the one second pick who also could turn out to be a bust..

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The funny thing about all this Luck crap is that just last april not a single Colts fan even had the slightest thought in their mind of drafting our "new franchise QB".

Now its tunnel vision and this perverted sense of imminent need. I don't get it?

I think you're skewing the opinions of some. The inherent danger in drafting Luck is....if he isn't a great freaking QB, I mean an awesome QB, we just >>>ed our franchise for the next XX years. It's not that I hope he flops to prove my point. I hope we don't draft him because of the danger posed by such a risky move.

It's been said for years that the window of opportunity for another SB with Manning closing fast. To a point where its become rather cliche. If they draft Luck, they manually close that window by choice, and I find that to be disturbing to say the least. Not that it wouldn't be possible to win one or two, but we sure wouldn't be helping him (Manning).

You are also displaying some tunnel vision, in your assumption that Manning will be healthy to return. Works both ways surely?

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Could happen, but with that scenario the Colts still lose. If they get the first pick and trade down (my choice) they could get a bundle of picks and hopefully 2 or 3 of them will turn out to be qualty players and give the Colts greater value than the one second pick who also could turn out to be a bust..

Who was it that took Mike Ditka's draft picks in return for Ricky Williams? Was it the Redskins or Chiefs? I don't know but I remember hearing that the ransom the other team got didn't amount to much either.

Polian could easily waste half the picks he gets for Luck.

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