MTC Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Does anyone know if Mathis can appeal his suspension? I'm not used to this stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Lucky Neck Beard Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 I cannot believe that the NFL suspended our entire pass rush for the first four games. All kidding aside, I hope this gets overturned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OffensivelyPC Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Mathis, of all people. I'm beyond disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefire4 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Newsome, time for the Robert Mathis comparisons to come to fruition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueCollarColts Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Bjoern Werner needs to step up and get some pressure, probably going to see some Jonathan Newsome as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueCollarColts Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Does anyone know if Mathis can appeal his suspension? I'm not used to this stuff.Yes he can appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgt_rob Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 It depends on when his first positive test was. Could have been last season... True but I am gonna bet that it wasn't. Like said above, Pat McAfee was tested after laying that killer hit on Trindon Holliday. You would think Robert would have been tested every other game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoRams1965 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 I don't think it had anything to do with last season. This will be something that EVERYONE will say I am sure. They are tested all season. I am sure Mathis was tested after having 19.5 sack season and nothing was found.Just asking, because I know they usually don't suspend until the 2nd violation. And he may have found out a way to get past the drug test the first time. Again, no disrespect. Just odd situation in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefire4 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Does anyone know if Mathis can appeal his suspension? I'm not used to this stuff.I believe so, but I bet the lowest it can go is 2 games and I fully expect him to win. His statement explains the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgt_rob Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Just asking, because I know they usually don't suspend until the 2nd violation. And he may have found out a way to get past the drug test the first time. Again, no disrespect. Just odd situation in general. No disrespect taken bud. I am trying to figure it out myself as well. I surely hope it wasn't anything sneaky on Robert's part. If so I am highly disappointed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbear Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 The thing that I'm having a hard time overlooking is that this was his second failed drug test. Hard to be that careless. I don't think the NFL has any choice in this matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jameszeigler834 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Unless this team finds another pass rusher we are screwed.Uh oh. Edited to add: http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000350988/article/colts-robert-mathis-suspended-four-games-for-peds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ar1888 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Wow.This sucks. Hard. PED violation. And a suspension only comes after a second violation. We need more pass rush...PEDs is 4 game suspension for first offense. 8 for second Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 True but I am gonna bet that it wasn't. Like said above, Pat McAfee was tested after laying that killer hit on Trindon Holliday. You would think Robert would have been tested every other game. That doesn't mean he didn't fail a test last year. He could have been tested every game, but he still would have received the benefits. We don't know enough about the situation, and probably never will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ar1888 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Does anyone know if Mathis can appeal his suspension? I'm not used to this stuff.Yes he can appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownColt Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 It depends on when his first positive test was. Could have been last season...With PEDs you get suspended on your 1st positive test."In the PED policy, players are tested at the scouting combine before their rookie seasons. Once they are in the league, players can be tested in the offseason, during the season and in the postseason.A positive test results in an immediate four-game suspension."http://www.denverpost.com/ci_23711278/nfls-substance-abuse-and-performance-enhancing-drugs-policies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boiler_Colt Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 This sucks, no doubt about it. Poor judgement on Robert's part regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ar1888 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 That doesn't mean he didn't fail a test last year. He could have been tested every game, but he still would have received the benefits. We don't know enough about the situation, and probably never will. PEDs are treated different then recreation drugs. First offense is a suspension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoRams1965 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Who is the next guy up for Colts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluefire4 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Does anyone know if Mathis can appeal his suspension? I'm not used to this stuff.Nope never mind. They denied the appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BPM_Colt Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Ouch.. Obviously a huge blow to the defense.. I wonder if there is any chance for an appeal/overturn on the punishment if the reasoning behind the failed test is what he stated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amfootball Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 He claims it was a fertility drug that he did not cross check with doctors. "It is difficult for me to address the circumstances surrounding this suspension because they involve very personal medical information, but it is very important to me that my fans, particularly young people, understand what did and did not occur. Like many families, my wife and I faced fertility challenges, and I sought medical assistance. I specifically asked the doctor if the medication he prescribed for me would present a problem for NFL drug testing, and unfortunately, he incorrectly told me that it would not. I made the mistake of not calling the NFL or NFLPA to double check before I took the medication at the end of last season. "The union has worked very closely with me to present all of the facts and medical records for consideration of discipline that does not include a suspension because of the unique facts of my case, but the Commissioner refused the request. I am deeply saddened that this situation will prevent me from contributing to my team for four games, and I regret that I didn't cross check what my doctor told me before I took the medication. I hope that my fans will understand the unique circumstances involved here and continue to know that I am a man of integrity who would never intentionally circumvent the performance enhancing substance policy agreed to by the NFL and my union. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mo0nlighting Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Nooooooo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueCollarColts Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 This was his first failed test, not his second Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 PEDs is 4 game suspension for first offense. 8 for second Link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HtownColt Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Who is the next guy up for Colts?Werner/Cam Johnson/Newsome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueCollarColts Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Who is the next guy up for Colts?Bjoern Werner, our 1st round pick from last season, struggled last season, but stepped up his play towards the end of the year and the playoffs as he adapted, and I have high hopes for him. Also, Jonathan Newsome will play, he was our 5th round pick, and his body-type and athleticism has been compared to that of Mathis. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ar1888 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Ouch.. Obviously a huge blow to the defense.. I wonder if there is any chance for an appeal/overturn on the punishment if the reasoning behind the failed test is what he stated?It still comes down to Robert being responsible for what he puts into his body. If this was Brian Cushing or JJ Watt we would be up in arms if he won a appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmopar Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Well while I can sympathetize with mathis if he was taking it for fertility reasons however... he still should have checked with at least the league first. Being a military member, I check any meds a doctor wants me to take with my unit prior to taking since we get tested almost monthly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ar1888 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Link?http://www.denverpost.com/ci_23711278/nfls-substance-abuse-and-performance-enhancing-drugs-policies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smonroe Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 It still comes down to Robert being responsible for what he puts into his body. If this was Brian Cushing or JJ Watt we would be up in arms if he won a appeal. I agree. You don't ask the doctor, you ask the NFLPA about the drug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 This. Sucks. Bad. And it is going to hurt us BADLY early in the year so much. I have no doubt most of the league takes stuff to begin with but it sucks. Period. UGH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoRams1965 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Bjoern Werner, our 1st round pick from last season, struggled last season, but stepped up his play towards the end of the year and the playoffs as he adapted, and I have high hopes for him. Also, Jonathan Newsome will play, he was our 5th round pick, and his body-type and athleticism has been compared to that of Mathis. Werner/Cam Johnson/Newsome Hopefully for your guys sake they play well, but that appears to be a pretty big drop off. A pretty big blow, somebody has to step up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Hopefully for your guys sake they play well, but that appears to be a pretty big drop off. A pretty big blow, somebody has to step up. Hopefully Pagano works something out for us that is unexpected or our offense steps up in a big way.....which I expect being it's year 3 with Luck and our offense should be healthy starting the year with everyone back and have more fluidity with our second year OC. No doubt about it though, losing Mathis SUCKS BAD. I consider him our most important player not named Andrew Luck and he was a one man wrecking crew at times last year. And playing Manning without Mathis week 1 will hurt us too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CanuckColt Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 I cannot believe that the NFL suspended our entire pass rush for the first four games. All kidding aside, I hope this gets overturned.I didn't know a player could get 4 games for a first offense...or has Mathis tested positive before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ar1888 Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 I didn't know a player could get 4 games for a first offense...or has Mathis tested positive before?http://www.denverpost.com/ci_23711278/nfls-substance-abuse-and-performance-enhancing-drugs-policiesPED suspension is first offense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueCollarColts Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Hopefully for your guys sake they play well, but that appears to be a pretty big drop off. A pretty big blow, somebody has to step up. No doubt, I have high hopes for Werner, I think he will be a very good pass rusher in his career, but i'm not sure if I was expecting it to come out this season, but hey hopefully it does! , good thing is we have one of the top corners in Vontae Davis, and hopefully a healthy Toler to make the QB hold onto the ball longer, and in turn giving Werner/Walden more time to get to the QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bestQBever Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Wait... Does he not get a chance to appeal this?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueCollarColts Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 I didn't know a player could get 4 games for a first offense...or has Mathis tested positive before?For PED's you are suspended for your first offense, so this was Mathis' first time testing positive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coltswarriors Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 This is really upsetting.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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