FA Updates

[Bluefire4]

Donald Brown - RB - Colts

The Colts are expected to make impending free agent Donald Brown a "reasonable offer."

The light finally flipped on for "Dammit Donald" in his fifth NFL season as he rushed 102 times for 537 yards (5.26 YPC) with six touchdowns. The Colts can't afford to overpay him though, as they've already given up the No. 26 overall pick in the draft for Trent Richardson. Vick Ballard (torn ACL) is also expected to return healthy. Brown is our No. 8 unrestricted free agent running back available.

 

 

 

Vontae Davis - DB - Colts

Impending free agent CB Vontae Davis is considered a "heavy favorite" to be re-signed by the Colts.

Some questioned Colts GM Ryan Grigson when he gave up a second-round pick for Davis during the 2012 preseason, but he got plenty of value. Davis was PFF's No. 3 corner this season, breaking out as an every-down press corner and dominating the right side. The Colts should be willing to pony up the cash it's going to take to retain him. Davis is our No. 4 unrestricted free agent corner, behind only Brent Grimes, Aqib Talib and Alterraun Verner.

 

[CopenhagenColt]

I would be fine with both staying, if the contracts are reasonable.

[John Waylon]

I forgot Grimes was a FA again...

 

Make it happen, Grigson. Just sayin.

[GoColts8818]

Makes the most sense.  I hope they keep both and the two kickers.  Bethea I wouldn't mind being back but I just don't see it. I also hope they hang on to Sergio Brown who is a free agent as well.

[arkana04]

I just cant see Brown staying some team will say he you be THE guy for us and brown will be on his way. 

[Iancolts]

Can we cut Toler and use that money to bring in grimes after we resign Davis? I'm pretty much asking cause I'm don't know how Toler contract works. I think I read that his money was front loaded so we won't get hurt cap wise if we cut him after year 1 someone please correct me if I'm wrong

[Gavin]

Can we cut Toler and use that money to bring in grimes after we resign Davis? I'm pretty much asking cause I'm don't know how Toler contract works. I think I read that his money was front loaded so we won't get hurt cap wise if we cut him after year 1 someone please correct me if I'm wrong

http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/indianapolis-colts/greg-toler/

 

 

 

There is his contract layout...The others are are there to

[Bluefire4]

Can we cut Toler and use that money to bring in grimes after we resign Davis? I'm pretty much asking cause I'm don't know how Toler contract works. I think I read that his money was front loaded so we won't get hurt cap wise if we cut him after year 1 someone please correct me if I'm wrong

No. Grimes is in line for a big deal now.

[CCH]

Man I would love to see Verner wearing the horseshoe... but there's no way we can spend that much money in the secondary.

[Colts_Fan12]

Hopefully Roby will fall to us in the draft to replace Toler

[BleedBlu8792]

Hopefully Roby will fall to us in the draft to replace Toler

No you don't. I'm a Buckeye fan and Roby isn't very good. How he got All American recognition is beyond me. Ohio States secondary was bad all year.

[jameszeigler834]

I would be fine with both staying, if the contracts are reasonable.

If one got a big contract  I think Davis deserves it more a lot of people gave him crap this year but most of the season it was just him out there matched up one on one the whole colts defense was beat multiple times it wasn't just him.

[jb17]

I forgot Grimes was a FA again...

 

Make it happen, Grigson. Just sayin.

Grimes would be an amazing addition. Hard nose, undderrated corner. He comes up and makes tackles, and makes athletic plays on the ball.

[BPM_Colt]

Vontae is a must.. Would love to bring him back, cut ties with Toler & bring in another solid corner.. Doubt we get rid of Toler though

[bap1331]

If he accepts the "reasonable offer" he is a true player not about the money. If not, the hec with him and find a true player, not another revis who said he doesn't care about championships BC he's about money

[bavanlan]

I forgot Grimes was a FA again...

 

Make it happen, Grigson. Just sayin.

 

I like Verner better; he seems quicker and more physical (and has a few years on Grimes).

[GoColts8818]

If he accepts the "reasonable offer" he is a true player not about the money. If not, the hec with him and find a true player, not another revis who said he doesn't care about championships BC he's about money

Yeah because no body ever switches jobs when someone comes along and says hey we would like you to do the exact same job you are doing now but we are going to pay you more money to do it...

 

It doesn't mean he's not about championships.  Say a team like New England offers him more money to go there than the Colts will pay him.  Are you honestly going to tell me he doesn't have a chance to win a Championship there?  He could find a place that is willing to pay him money and win. 

 

Also, coming back here he will probably be a back up another team might give him a chance to start.  So it might not be able money at all and be about opportunity. 

[SteelDragon]

The Colts have to re-sign Davis and bring in another CB, not to mention a Safety, if we lose Bethea.  Losing Davis would be devastating with this secondary and IMO he pretty much has the leverage.  We're going to have to pony up.

[NewColtsFan]

The problem as I was reading about Verner...    is not that he isn't good -- he clearly is.

 

It's that he's small and probably not a good fit for teams that like to play press coverage with larger corners -- like the Colts do.

 

So, schematically,  he may not be a good fit, even if do decide to cut Toler.

 

Someone bigger, like Talib or others,  might be a better fit.

[jskinnz]

If he accepts the "reasonable offer" he is a true player not about the money. If not, the hec with him and find a true player, not another revis who said he doesn't care about championships BC he's about money

Another in a long and growing line of just simply bad posts.

[HungarianColtsFan]

Vontae is a must.. Would love to bring him back, cut ties with Toler & bring in another solid corner.. Doubt we get rid of Toler though

 

Vontae is a must, and according to his statement on colts.com, he is willing to stay. I hope we resign him.

[IndyD4U]

If he accepts the "reasonable offer" he is a true player not about the money. If not, the hec with him and find a true player, not another revis who said he doesn't care about championships BC he's about money

 

So you would work for an company, for let's say 50k year, because you're a "true employee" and turn down the big money, 6 figure job?

 

ludicrous, I say

[GoDeep]

As stated...Davis is a must!

 

I would really like to see Brown resigned.  Maybe it's because I watched him for his whole pro career and not just this year, but I don't see another team paying him the big money - people do have short memories though.  They may see his YPC and open the checkbook wide.

[Dark Superman]

I hope the Dolphins allow Grimes to walk.

Not sure on their cap situation though..

[Valpo2004]

Please tell me we'll keep Donald Brown's salary under 3 million a year.  He had some good runs this year but it wasn't like he was carrying the load of the offense.  

[Kyle]

any updates on Bethea or Pat?  

[CCH]

"@Donaldb31: Was an honor and privilege to play for the Colts. An organization made up of phenomenal people. Will always be indebted to the horseshoe."

Looks like he will not be back next year

[The Peytonator]

The problem as I was reading about Verner...    is not that he isn't good -- he clearly is.

 

It's that he's small and probably not a good fit for teams that like to play press coverage with larger corners -- like the Colts do.

 

So, schematically,  he may not be a good fit, even if do decide to cut Toler.

 

Someone bigger, like Talib or others,  might be a better fit.

 

I had the same though about Verner originally, but I looked into it a little more. In 2012 Tenn was playing a cover 2 for the most part, and while he was playing pretty solid, his job was in doubt the whole time for some reason. Last offseason they moved to a press man scheme and his abilities were doubted even more. He came out to have a really good season, and that was without a very good pass rush to help him out. 

 

Size isn't everything to playing press, a lot of it is agility, ability to mirror the man in front of you, and quickness/burst to make a play on the ball after the WR goes into his break. Sam Shields in GB is one of the better press corners in the game and he's the same size as Verner. 

 

As far as corners I'd like us to check out for the offseason; I'm still trying to make up my mind....

 

Verner, Grimes, Shields, DRC, Captain Munnerlyn, Brandon Ghee, Walter Thurmond....whatever one's cheaper.

 

[lollygagger8]

Brent Grimes, Aqib Talib, Jimmy Smith, Josh Wilson, Sam Shields, Tarell Brown

 

....anybody to pair with Vontae but Toler. Please!!