Stampede Blue Roster Projections

[NewEra]

Carter only had one fumble last year. As did Brown. Brown is the more explosive back who can take it the distance. Although he gets tackled for a lose or short gain a bunch. Brown has improved big time in pass protection. Cater is going to give you positive yards on nearly every touch. With the addition of havili carter may not be needed. Also, with the addition of Williams both may be expendable. Going to be a very interesting offseason that's for sure.

Btw, I don't dislike Brown. I like his break away potential. I just think he plays really soft. A lot of that could have been due to the line though. Gets real old getting hit as soon as you touch the ball!

[MacDee1975]

QB- luck, hasslebeck

RB- bradshaw, ballard, willams

FB-havili

WR- wayne, dhb, hilton, brazill, whalen, kelley

TE- fleener, allen, saunders

OL- canstanzo, thomas, satale, thornton, chelius, link, anderson, mcglynn, reitz, holmes

DL- redding, chapman, RFJ, franklin, hughes, treasuve, mckinnely

LB- mathis, walden, werner, sidbury, freeman, sheppard, connor, angerer

CB- davis, toler, butler, vaughn, gordy

S- landry, bethea, lefeged, brown, boyett

ST- adam v, mcafee, overton

 

PS- price, swanson, cleary, mcnary, cummingham , mcnaus the kicker, harnish, moore

 

4 nose tackles and only 3 defensive ends?

[TKnight24]

He runs harder, doesn't go down with a two hand tap. Runs through defenders and over them. Has a much better size for a power running game. Come cheaper than Brown. Has stayed more healthy compared to Brown.

How? They both played in 10 games last season

We don't need a power back when we have Ballard & Bradshaw. Carter will NOT make this team you can assure it.

Donald Brown has over 1,000 yards (1840 to be exact) in his career. With only ONE, I'll say that again ONE fumble in FOUR Years, I'll say that again..... Four years with one fumble.

Carter has four fumbles in 2 years. Ball security is the #1 priority on offense and Carter obviously doesn't understand that.

[GoColts8818]

Carter only had one fumble last year. As did Brown. Brown is the more explosive back who can take it the distance. Although he gets tackled for a lose or short gain a bunch. Brown has improved big time in pass protection. Cater is going to give you positive yards on nearly every touch. With the addition of havili carter may not be needed. Also, with the addition of Williams both may be expendable. Going to be a very interesting offseason that's for sure.

Btw, I don't dislike Brown. I like his break away potential. I just think he plays really soft. A lot of that could have been due to the line though. Gets real old getting hit as soon as you touch the ball!

Carter also only had 32 carries last compared to Brown's 108.  To give you an idea of how few of carries Carter got last  year he wasn't even third on the list.  Luck had almost twice as many carries as him. 

 

Also, according to this:

 

http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/12489/donald-brown

 

Brown did not fumble at all last year.  He has fumbled once in his NFL career, his rookie year.  Carter has fumbled four times in almost the same number of years in only 133 carries, or just a few more than Brown had last year alone. Carter fumbles just about every 33 carries, Brown is averaging one fumble every 449 attempts, if you can't see the difference there I don't know what to tell you.

 

There is a reason that Brown is getting so many more carries than Carter.  It's going to take a lot for Carter to over take Brown.  Frankly if anyone is going to make Brown expendable it's probably not going to be Carter it's going to be a healthy Bradshaw coupled with Williams being very good in the pre-season and Brown stinking it up. 

[NewEra]

How? They both played in 10 games last season

We don't need a power back when we have Ballard & Bradshaw. Carter will NOT make this team you can assure it.

Donald Brown has over 1,000 yards (1840 to be exact) in his career. With only ONE, I'll say that again ONE fumble in FOUR Years, I'll say that again..... Four years with one fumble.

Carter has four fumbles in 2 years. Ball security is the #1 priority on offense and Carter obviously doesn't understand that.

Honestly, wouldn't be shocked if both get cut. As long as we have Bradshaw & Ballard I'm happy

[CR91]

4 nose tackles and only 3 defensive ends?

 

treasev can play DE too

[NewColtsFan]

4 nose tackles and only 3 defensive ends?

 

And no Moala and Nevis either......     Huh?

[Malakai432]

Sanchez the one QB who will make your team wish for Curtis Painter.

, yeah you got that right.

[Superman]

I don't usually do these this early. I like to wait until training camp starts. But I'll do a soft projection here, separating who I think are locks to make the final roster from those that I think are on the bubble but have a good shot at it.

 

QB: Luck, Hasselbeck (Harnish)

RB: Bradshaw, Ballard (Brown, Williams, Carter)

FB: Havili (Moore)

WR: Wayne, DHB,  Hilton, Brazill (Whalen, Sambrano, Kelley, Palmer)

TE: Fleener, Allen (Saunders, Jones, Cunningham)

OL: Castonzo, Thomas, Satele, McGlynn, Cherilus, Holmes, Thornton (Linkenbach, Reitz, Sowell)

DT: Franklin, Chapman (McKinney, Tevaseu)

DE: RJF, Redding, Hughes (Nevis, Mathews, Moala)

OLB: Mathis, Walden, Werner (Sidbury, Hickman, Rayford)

ILB: Angerer, Conner, Sheppard (Harvey, Lutrus)

CB: Davis, Toler, Butler (Vaughn, Price, Gordy)

S: Landry, Bethea, Lefeged (Brown, Boyett, Howell, Swanson)

Specialists: Vinatieri, McAfee, Overton

 

That's 38 locks, in my mind, assuming they're all healthy (knock on wood). Then there's another 32 guys I think have the best shot to make the roster, but they are competing for 15 spots. There's another 20 guys on the 90 man roster that I didn't list, either because I don't think they really have a good chance of making it, or because I simply don't know very much about them.

 

Assuming my 38 "locks" are really locks, we have 52 guys competing for 15 roster spots. (There are a handful of guys that I personally expect to make the roster that I don't consider locks -- Donald Brown, Linkenbach, McKinney, Sidbury and Vaughn,  so really, it's 47 guys competing for 10 spots.) That's a LOT of competition to be settled, not to mention pecking order on the depth chart (starting running back, fourth receiver, third tight end, starting right guard, dimeback, etc.)

 

Can't wait for training camp. Gonna be fun.

[NewColtsFan]

I don't usually do these this early. I like to wait until training camp starts. But I'll do a soft projection here, separating who I think are locks to make the final roster from those that I think are on the bubble but have a good shot at it.

 

QB: Luck, Hasselbeck (Harnish)

RB: Bradshaw, Ballard (Brown, Williams, Carter)

FB: Havili (Moore)

WR: Wayne, DHB,  Hilton, Brazill (Whalen, Sambrano, Kelley, Palmer)

TE: Fleener, Allen (Saunders, Jones, Cunningham)

OL: Castonzo, Thomas, Satele, McGlynn, Cherilus, Holmes, Thornton (Linkenbach, Reitz, Sowell)

DT: Franklin, Chapman (McKinney, Tevaseu)

DE: RJF, Redding, Hughes (Nevis, Mathews, Moala)

OLB: Mathis, Walden, Werner (Sidbury, Hickman, Rayford)

ILB: Angerer, Conner, Sheppard (Harvey, Lutrus)

CB: Davis, Toler, Butler (Vaughn, Price, Gordy)

S: Landry, Bethea, Lefeged (Brown, Boyett, Howell, Swanson)

Specialists: Vinatieri, McAfee, Overton

 

That's 38 locks, in my mind, assuming they're all healthy (knock on wood). Then there's another 32 guys I think have the best shot to make the roster, but they are competing for 15 spots. There's another 20 guys on the 90 man roster that I didn't list, either because I don't think they really have a good chance of making it, or because I simply don't know very much about them.

 

Assuming my 38 "locks" are really locks, we have 52 guys competing for 15 roster spots. (There are a handful of guys that I personally expect to make the roster that I don't consider locks -- Donald Brown, Linkenbach, McKinney, Sidbury and Vaughn,  so really, it's 47 guys competing for 10 spots.) That's a LOT of competition to be settled, not to mention pecking order on the depth chart (starting running back, fourth receiver, third tight end, starting right guard, dimeback, etc.)

 

Can't wait for training camp. Gonna be fun.

 

Best I can tell you missed one....   but, it's a big one....

 

Inside linebacker.....  Freeman.    I'm sure you meant to have him on the list...   a simple oversight....

(I know those well!)        :slaphead:

[southwest1]

Sanchez the one QB who will make your team wish for Curtis Painter.

Is that what people mean when they say pick the lesser or 2 evils? Like choosing between 2 different calamities? Like degrees of losing ground? 0 vs. -1?     

[Crunked]

I saw Donald Friday at his home, wished him luck on the season, he has beefed up the upper body this year. He was loading the roof rack on his SUV maybe a little get away in mind......I think he will make the roster, my frustration was all the dancing behind the line that he used to do, you can't dance behind tissue paper and have anything good come from it.......hopefully we can hold blocks on that O-line for a micro-second this year and the masses perception of Donald changes. Once he finds a hole he is the ONLY home run hitter we have speed wise......the rookie we drafted will be used primarily on kick and punt returns in my estimation......it will take some time before he gets a shot on the offense. We will probably see more of him in the off season as a RB  than any other time....I think the thinking is he is too small to hold up as a true RB for any length of time at the moment.

[Superman]

Best I can tell you missed one.... but, it's a big one....

Inside linebacker..... Freeman. I'm sure you meant to have him on the list... a simple oversight....

(I know those well!) :slaphead:

I had a nagging feeling I was missing a linebacker. It seemed way too thin there. Thanks for pointing that out.

Okay, so it's 46 players competing for 9 spots.

[MacDee1975]

treasev can play DE too

 

Eh.....I doubt he even makes the team, let alone becomes a primary backup defensive end.

 

Much more likely scenario:  Franklin, Chapman, McKinney at NT;  Redding, RJF, Moala, Hughes, Nevis at DE

 

No way on earth we only keep 3 true DE's and 1 swing DE.

[CR91]

Eh.....I doubt he even makes the team, let alone becomes a primary backup defensive end.

 

Much more likely scenario:  Franklin, Chapman, McKinney at NT;  Redding, RJF, Moala, Hughes, Nevis at DE

 

No way on earth we only keep 3 true DE's and 1 swing DE.

 

nevis doesnt even fit and hes injury prone. treasuve played great for us and if I was a betting man Id put money saying as soon as he is cut, he will be signed in 5 mins.

[Gavin]

nevis doesnt even fit and hes injury prone. treasuve played great for us and if I was a betting man Id put money saying as soon as he is cut, he will be signed in 5 mins.

Tevaseu

[MacDee1975]

nevis doesnt even fit and hes injury prone. treasuve played great for us and if I was a betting man Id put money saying as soon as he is cut, he will be signed in 5 mins.

 

First of all, its T-E-V-A-S-E-U.

 

Secondly, he was simply okay.

 

But regardless of these moot points pertaining to the merits of Tevaseu or Nevis.....if we go into the regular season doing something as *ic as carrying 4 NT's and 3 DE's, i'll insist that Ryan Grigson be fired, then drawn and quartered.

[a06cc]

Better oline play, I think DB has as much of a chance as the other 2. Better catcher out of backfield. Not physical?? Go back and watch 09 playoff games . Ran Ray Lewis over.

[Colts_Fan12]

Vick Ballard

Ahmad Bradshaw

Delone Carter

Where's the change of pace back in that? All those guys are power backs. If Pep is running this offense, I'm sure he's looking for Donald to be the change of pace cause Shaw may start on the PUP.

And we haven't heard ANYTHING about D. Carter this entire off-season at any workouts. It's like he's not even a Colt

I'd see wat Williams has as the change of pace back I don't see why not to give him a chance

[CR91]

First of all, its T-E-V-A-S-E-U.

 

Secondly, he was simply okay.

 

But regardless of these moot points pertaining to the merits of Tevaseu or Nevis.....if we go into the regular season doing something as *ic as carrying 4 NT's and 3 DE's, i'll insist that Ryan Grigson be fired, then drawn and quartered.

I was never good names. I said he can also play DE

[CR91]

Tevaseu

Thanks. I'm terrible at names.

[Valpo2004]

5 safeties but 3 OG's?  

 

Drop a safety to practice squad, keep 4 OG's at least.  

 

And unless Harnish looks exceptionally good in the pre-season, I'd put him on the practice squad and maybe keep a 6th wide receiver or even a 4th TE.  

 

I think Donald Brown will make the team over Carter.  But he hasn't done anything IMO to make us re-sign him unless he comes on the cheap.  (Like far cheaper then his current contract.)

[Ja'Crispy]

Sanchez the one QB who will make your team wish for Curtis Painter.

 One could argue Painter played perhaps the largest role in acquiring Luck

[throwing BBZ]

DB is a long proven bum. But I would like to see him as our 3rd RB playing special teams. How long would he last, 2 games?
If we need a yard, gimme Carter. Not that I wouldn`t like a Darren Sproles type player.

 

With a better O-Line and Bradshaw pass protecting we will have plenty of 20+ yard plays from the Offense.
A couple extra 20 yard runs by Brown won`t make up for his very mediocre pass blocking and all his runs into the back of his lineman.

 

 

[Gavin]

DB is a long proven bum. But I would like to see him as our 3rd RB playing special teams. How long would he last, 2 games?

If we need a yard, gimme Carter. Not that I wouldn`t like a Darren Sproles type player.

 

With a better O-Line and Bradshaw pass protecting we will have plenty of 20+ yard plays from the Offense.

A couple extra 20 yard runs by Brown won`t make up for his very mediocre pass blocking and all his runs into the back of his lineman.

 

 

All our running backs were running into the backs of our O Linemen, They were all worthless blockers for much of the season no matter who was in at running back

[BOTT]

All our running backs were running into the backs of our O Linemen, They were all worthless blockers for much of the season no matter who was in at running back

Castonzo was an above average run blocker all season. Hopefully his pass blocking will catch up.

[Jason_]

treasev can play DE too

 

Meh...Tevaseu was decent last year as a backup NT but ideally I wouldn't want him any higher than 3rd string.  Nevis brings much, much more to the table.  Though I will give you your point about Nevis's injury history.  I'd still rather have him than Tevaseu though.

[Jason_]

Donald Brown is 210-220 lbs.

Ahmad Bradshaw is 210-220 lbs.

Vick Ballard is 210-220 lbs.

Delone Carter is 230-40 lbs.

 

Carter IS the change of pace back.

 

You can't be serious.  Your "logic" is assuming that Brown, Ballard and Bradshaw all have the same builds, same speed, same strength etc etc and that is very clearly not true.  

[throwing BBZ]

All our running backs were running into the backs of our O Linemen, They were all worthless blockers for much of the season no matter who was in at running back

 

Ignore till the end of time that ya boy Brown was no different.

I watched the guy plow into the line time after time when there were actual holes just one gap over that ANY decent back would have cut to.

That and the fact that last season was the first where he actually did some decent pass blocking, thou he still picked up the wrong man a lot, are the only reasons I hope we try someone else ASAP.

 

 Peps O may just the thing for him, so If he plays I will root for him that is 4 sure.

 Nothing wrong with DB`s character, or work ethic that I ever heard of, and injuries are part of the game.

[basketballsteve]

Brown when not hurt won us some games last year. My memory tells me that in the Tennessee game last year the last drive was all Brown until the very end when Ballard scored.

[Gavin]

Ignore till the end of time that ya boy Brown was no different.

I watched the guy plow into the line time after time when there were actual holes just one gap over that ANY decent back would have cut to.

That and the fact that last season was the first where he actually did some decent pass blocking, thou he still picked up the wrong man a lot, are the only reasons I hope we try someone else ASAP.

 

 Peps O may just the thing for him, so If he plays I will root for him that is 4 sure.

 Nothing wrong with DB`s character, or work ethic that I ever heard of, and injuries are part of the game.

My boy Brown? seriously? Feeling a little sensitive today are we? I been saying he is on the bubble for being cut this year ever since the Bradshaw rumors which turned out to be true, Brown is a small back thats much more a darter then he is a make you miss and cut Back, He cant stay healthy , He wont likely be around much longer and definitly not beyond this year in my opinion, But our O Line was still awful