Colts getting calls about 24th pick.....

[Valpo2004]

it would be sweet to trade down, but that would make the evening rather boring.

 

True but makes tomorrow better, a 2nd round pick most likely, preferably one at the top of the 2nd round.   Plus at least 2 3rd round picks I would think.  

 

Without a trade though tomorrow is kinda boring, 2 total rounds with only 1 pick for us.  

[Mameluc]

Jeremy Maclin and a 2nd rounder straight up for 24. Thoughts?

keep dreaming bro

eagles would be insane to offer that

[buccolts]

Yeah, but if they trade to #15, I doubt they are interested in #24.  I'm just saying they have to either trade up or sell those picks off for future draft picks.  

 

 

Unless, of course, the trading partner is reluctant to move as far as #31.

9ers trade for our 24th, then with the other party.

You never know, they have so many picks.

[HtownColt]

Why would that be silly? I don't follow? I'd love to trade back with SF for either their 31st pick or even their 34th pick if they'll sweeten the offer a little more.....

Ian Rapaport is connecting the 49ers with the Jets in a trade for either #9 or #13

[Valpo2004]

Unless, of course, the trading partner is reluctant to move as far as #31.

9ers trade for our 24th, then with the other party.

You never know, they have so many picks.

 

Ugg a double trade up like that would cost them a lot.  I can't see them doing that.  

[AntonMcG]

This is a great safety blanket to have if a good player doesn't fall. Nothing worse than reaching.

[chad72]

2, 3 and a 5 at best in the current draft (OR) 2, 3 and a future 3rd is possible

 

The reason the Colts will be getting the most calls is because we are the only ones in the 24-32 range that does not have a second round pick. Teams will feel they will get a fair deal from us as opposed to anyone else that might fleece them, like the Ravens or Patriots .

[Warhawk]

Unless, of course, the trading partner is reluctant to move as far as #31.

9ers trade for our 24th, then with the other party.

You never know, they have so many picks.

 

If there's someone the niners want at our spot, though, could work out for us, we trade down from 24 to 31 (and the niners have plenty of picks to offer), then we trade down again with a team early in the second so they can get dibs on a QB at the end of the first.

[TKnight24]

*Sniffs Air*

You guys smell that? Smells like some Grigson plotting is a foot

[buccolts]

Ugg a double trade up like that would cost them a lot.  I can't see them doing that.  

 

And I'm not saying they would, but I don't think it'd cost them all that much.

We'd trade back 7 spots, which would probably net us an additional mid to late rounder.

The trade further up would be what costs the 9ers, but that'd happen anyway.

[Nadine]

ever wonder how news like this starts?

 

I mean,is someone tapping grigsons phone?

[UKColt13]

Would much rather have Datone Jones or Larry Warford.

Warford I like, but Datone Jones is overrated IMO.

[RomanianColtsFan]

I hope they don't trade down giving the history of good players drafted at 24

[TKnight24]

Almost 3 hours away. I'm making history today. My first draft as a member of this forum!!!

[dgambill]

2, 3 and a 5 at best in the current draft (OR) 2, 3 and a future 3rd is possible

 

The reason the Colts will be getting the most calls is because we are the only ones in the 24-32 range that does not have a second round pick. Teams will feel they will get a fair deal from us as opposed to anyone else that might fleece them, like the Ravens or Patriots .

Also because we are sandwiched between the Vikings who may be targeting two players that a lot of teams may have interest in. That said I would think that would make our chances of negotiating very difficult because the Vikings have mentioned trading back several times and have twice the ammo at where we are at to do it.

[GoColtsGo5150]

Almost 3 hours away. I'm making history today. My first draft as a member of this forum!!!

 

 

Warford I like, but Datone Jones is overrated IMO.

 

Both of these comments I 100% agree with.

 

I take TK, you have your Apple juice at the ready

[TKnight24]

Both of these comments I 100% agree with.

I take TK, you have your Apple juice at the ready

You already know it. And I'll be ordering my wings around 7:15ish

[GoColtsGo5150]

You already know it. And I'll be ordering my wings around 7:15ish

Great Guy, Great Guy 

 

Whilst I have the draft on record and will have to watch it tomorrow ( with me having school tomorrow and me being in the UK). But what I have done is been following this forum and listen to Invincible by MGK, Hall of fame by The Script and Almost Famous by Eminem to pump me up for the draft.

[SilentHill]

ever wonder how news like this starts?

 

I mean,is someone tapping grigsons phone?

 

Shhh.. Don't tell him that it was me.

[trueblueblood]

Everyone gets calls regarding trades, doesn't mean they will happen

[chad72]

Also because we are sandwiched between the Vikings who may be targeting two players that a lot of teams may have interest in. That said I would think that would make our chances of negotiating very difficult because the Vikings have mentioned trading back several times and have twice the ammo at where we are at to do it.

 

I have a feeling the 49ers, who have these gazillion picks, will package their No.31 and No.34 to move into the middle of round 1 because they can't find roster spots for everyone they pick if they stand pat, without question.

 

That might force the Vikes to do the same thing, IMO, to move up to the Saints spot giving up their No.23 and No.25 for the Saints No.15 and 3rd rounder since the Saints do not have a 2nd rounder. You never know. Once a few teams start moving up, the guys at the back of round 1 with more needs than us like the Vikes will start making moves, IMO

[Bleedin Blue]

Warford I like, but Datone Jones is overrated IMO.

 

Negative.  Dantone Jones is a guy who consistenly puts pressure on the pocket.  He is a terrrific D-lineman and we would be smart to pick him up.  I'm for trading back though.  This draft has starters in rounds 2 and 3.  I'd much rather have 3 guys than 2.

[HtownColt]

@AlbertBreer: And as for the bottom of the first-round dynamic we mentioned earlier, $$-wise, Jags, Jets, Bills, Browns have talked to teams with low 1s.

[TKnight24]

2 hours & 9 mins

[HtownColt]

@AlbertBreer: One factor with teams looking to deal into the bottom of Round 1 for a QB ... The finances. Fifth-year option cheaper than franchise tag.

@AlbertBreer: For picks 11-32, fifth-year option price is average of 3rd-25th highest salaries at a player's position. Much cheaper than franchise tag.

Another reason why drafting a QB in the mid to late 1st is a good option for QB needy teams

[Kyle]

You already know it. And I'll be ordering my wings around 7:15ish

you sharing again?

[TKnight24]

you sharing again?

Last time I offered you guys ignored me like y'all didn't hear me offering lol

[PrincetonTiger]

The Colts should wait until they see who is available

[Icelandic_Colt]

Negative.  Dantone Jones is a guy who consistenly puts pressure on the pocket.  He is a terrrific D-lineman and we would be smart to pick him up.  I'm for trading back though.  This draft has starters in rounds 2 and 3.  I'd much rather have 3 guys than 2.

Exactly. He was also pretty much the only player to give the latest no.1 draft pick, Eric Fisher, fits at the senior bowl. He has a lot of upside, has the frame to bulk up if need be and is a dynamic pass rusher from the inside, be it as a DE in our 3-4 or as a DT in nickel. My man crush deepens...  ;)

[Kyle]

Last time I offered you guys ignored me like y'all didn't hear me offering lol

o no way!  I so took you up on that.  I actually ordered some honey BBQ wings from Pizza Hut the next night after you were talking about them last time LOL

[TKnight24]

o no way! I so took you up on that. I actually ordered some honey BBQ wings from Pizza Hut the next night after you were talking about them last time LOL

they were good. I'll have them again tonight believe that

[Tony Sullivan]

After hearing about some of the previous #24's,I don't think we should give it up for anything less than a top 10 pick ;)

 

My actual hope is we try to trade into the top 10 for cheap. 

[In Luck We Trust]

if Rhodes falls to us at 24, i dont see us trading down. honestly i dont see us even letting cyrpien go if he falls to us. but if neither fall to us i wouldnt mind a early 2nd and 3rd round pick for our first rounder. Alex Okafor and Baccari Rambo or Poyer (if he falls to us) with our 2nd and 3rd pick we traded down for would be nice. 

[In Luck We Trust]

I have a feeling the 49ers, who have these gazillion picks, will package their No.31 and No.34 to move into the middle of round 1 because they can't find roster spots for everyone they pick if they stand pat, without question.

 

That might force the Vikes to do the same thing, IMO, to move up to the Saints spot giving up their No.23 and No.25 for the Saints No.15 and 3rd rounder since the Saints do not have a 2nd rounder. You never know. Once a few teams start moving up, the guys at the back of round 1 with more needs than us like the Vikes will start making moves, IMO

i wouldnt mind taking the niners 31 and 34 but i dont see that happening. they may end up trading that for like one of the jets either their top 10 pick or their # 13 overall pick (they aquired for revis) but who knows, crazier things have happened. 

[Andy]

With the Colts making a splash in free agency, it could be worth trading back. There isn't that one huge need, besides maybe guard and there probably won't be a guard worth picking at 24.

[NewColtsFan]

Since I've been banging the drum longest and loudest for trading back, it feels appropriate to chime in with some late thoughts before the draft starts....

 

History says a trade back from roughly 24 into the low to mid 40's should get the Colts at least a 2/3/5.    More if you can manage to do it in two separate trades....

 

But two things have happened in the last year that appears to have dramatically changed/lower compensation...

 

First, last year was the first year of the new CBA, and with rookie contracts now so cheap, it appears teams are much less willing to give proper compensation (according to the draft pick points chart)  and that took full effect last year.   Teams took less to trade back.

 

Second,  this year,  with the draft having great depth, seems most every team wants to trade back and add picks.   That appears especially the case for teams right around our pick at 24.    Reportedly, the Rams with two picks, the 2nd one at 22, and the Vikings with two picks on either side of us, 23 and 25 are also interested in trading back with their 2nd pick. 

 

By law of supply and demand,  with so many teams around the Colts wanting to trade back that's going to under-cut our ability to get full price to trade back.   In short,  not good for the Colts.   So, I'm now pessimistic of getting 2/3/5 to trade back.   We may only get 2/4/6 to trade back.    My view would be to still do it,  and then do it a 2nd time and get another 4 and likely a 7 to go with it.

 

Still....   it's a deep discount.   And that's disappointing.

 

My hope is that Grigson, with his relationship with Philly, can interest the Eagles in trading back into the 1st to get QB EJ Manuel.     Then,  trade back another time to approx 40-42.    Then,  we're in perfect shape to take the guard we want....

 

At least,  that my hope.....

 

Sorry this went so long....

[UKColt13]

Negative.  Dantone Jones is a guy who consistenly puts pressure on the pocket.  He is a terrrific D-lineman and we would be smart to pick him up.  I'm for trading back though.  This draft has starters in rounds 2 and 3.  I'd much rather have 3 guys than 2.

Agreed with the trade back plans. I just don't see the consistency that I like to see from players in Datone Jones. I like him as a prospect but I would take him in the mid 2nd round not #24 overall.

[HtownColt]

@KBowenColts: Grigson: "You would always like to get more picks but until you know who falls to 24 than who knows."

@KBowenColts: Grigson: "We have our targets. The board is set and the hay is in the barn. We feel good about it."

@KBowenColts: Grigson on the draft's depth: "It's going to be really thick from rounds 3-5. There's going to be a lot of good players there, starters."

Grigson quotes on the Radio show with bob lamey like 20min ago

[Deathiltis]

Almost 3 hours away. I'm making history today. My first draft as a member of this forum!!!

 

ME TOOOOOOOOOO

[NewColtsFan]

@KBowenColts: Grigson: "You would always like to get more picks but until you know who falls to 24 than who knows."

@KBowenColts: Grigson: "We have our targets. The board is set and the hay is in the barn. We feel good about it."

@KBowenColts: Grigson on the draft's depth: "It's going to be really thick from rounds 3-5. There's going to be a lot of good players there, starters."

Grigson quotes on the Radio show with bob lamey like 20min ago

 

 

For me this is the Hot Quote.....    that tells me we're trading back if someone we absolutely don't love falls to us at 24...

 

If that stud isn't there,  we're taking any and all calls to trade back......

 

My heart is beginning to pound.....