saleh

[OLD FAN MAN]

bill cower says robert saleh is a very good defensive coordinator , if the colts fire bradley would saleh be a good choice to replace him? should the colts try to get saleh now before he gets away? would his system fit with the colts current talent? would ballard like his style of defense? I dont know anything about him, just asking. there is reports that he sometimes wears a flag of lebanon on his clothing is that an issue? he is supposed to have an attack style aggressive style defense, is that true?

[Bravo]

Probably would be a good defensive coordinator.

 

Ballard wont hire him though. He is too aggressive.

 

Ballard likes soft man coverage and cover 3 coordinators. If you don’t play bend and break style you don’t even have a shot to be the Colts D Coordinator.

[OLD FAN MAN]

16 minutes ago, Bravo said:

Probably would be a good defensive coordinator.

 

Ballard wont hire him though. He is too aggressive.

 

Ballard likes soft man coverage and cover 3 coordinators. If you don’t play bend and break style you don’t even have a shot to be the Colts D Coordinator.

too bad I for one would like to see an aggressive defense that can disrupt offenses. I hope ballard changes 

[Shive]

He was a good DC before he got hired as HC of the Jets. The Jets have had one of the best defenses in the league the past couple of seasons despite having a terrible offense.

 

He actually comes from the Gus Bradley coaching tree, so there's a lot of philosophical similarities. Based on that, he'd also very much fit what CB wants to run on defense. Here's an excerpt of an article that gives a great breakdown of Saleh's scheme/approach:

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There aren’t many bells and whistles to Saleh’s scheme. His excellence as a coach is less about wonky play designs and more about his week-to-week game planning. He sticks to what his side does best, while exposing holes in the opposing offense’s makeup. He finds weaknesses and attacks them… and attacks them… and attacks them some more.

 

Once he’s hit on what works, he doesn’t overthink things. He doubles down. There’s no let-up. He’s not showing off his schematic acumen down in and down out. He’s running what works, to the point of exhaustion. That’s smart coaching.

 

Saleh wants to play with four down linemen, rarely blitz, and to sink back into only a handful of coverages. He’s betting on players, not plays; he relies on a core group of concepts dressed up in a couple of different ways, and trusts players to react intuitively in coverage.

Source: https://www.readoptional.com/p/this-is-robert-salehs-moment

 

Sounds VERY much like Gus' approach, but his success may be more in how he gameplans from week to week. It's also possible that his successes in SF and NY are partially due to having talented defensive rosters.

[cdgacoltsfan]

4 hours ago, OLD FAN MAN said:

bill cower says robert saleh is a very good defensive coordinator , if the colts fire bradley would saleh be a good choice to replace him? should the colts try to get saleh now before he gets away? would his system fit with the colts current talent? would ballard like his style of defense? I dont know anything about him, just asking. there is reports that he sometimes wears a flag of lebanon on his clothing is that an issue? he is supposed to have an attack style aggressive style defense, is that true?

Didn't Saleh learn under Bradley??

[richard pallo]

I will say I only watched the second half but I thought the defense played more aggressive and more press coverage.

[jvan1973]

4 hours ago, Bravo said:

Probably would be a good defensive coordinator.

 

Ballard wont hire him though. He is too aggressive.

 

Ballard likes soft man coverage and cover 3 coordinators. If you don’t play bend and break style you don’t even have a shot to be the Colts D Coordinator.

Salah runs basically the same defense Gus does. 

[MikeCurtis]

This isn’t getting fixed this year

 

See how the year plays out and make decisions then

If we stay .500 or less

Not sure how we keep DC and GM

 

 

[Moosejawcolt]

5 hours ago, OLD FAN MAN said:

bill cower says robert saleh is a very good defensive coordinator , if the colts fire bradley would saleh be a good choice to replace him? should the colts try to get saleh now before he gets away? would his system fit with the colts current talent? would ballard like his style of defense? I dont know anything about him, just asking. there is reports that he sometimes wears a flag of lebanon on his clothing is that an issue? he is supposed to have an attack style aggressive style defense, is that true?

Very similar to what the Colts run. I would say far from aggressive

[Bravo]

17 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:

Salah runs basically the same defense Gus does. 

Then looks like we have our next DC!

[jvan1973]

10 minutes ago, Bravo said:

Then looks like we have our next DC!

Then why did you say he was too aggressive?  It seemed like you knew all about his style of defense.   Or was it a troll post because you don't actually know anything about Salahs defense?

[Bravo]

2 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:

Then why did you say he was too aggressive?  It seemed like you knew all about his style of defense.   Or was it a troll post because you don't actually know anything about Salahs defense?

I don’t know anything about Salahs defense. But you sir, have told me everything I needed to hear. He is Ballards guy.

 

Looked up more about him just now.

 

Rotating defensive line

low blitz rate

cover 3/4

Reduced big plays

 

he is PERFECT.

[jvan1973]

4 minutes ago, Bravo said:

I don’t know anything about Salahs defense. But you sir, have told me everything I needed to hear. He is Ballards guy.

 

Looked up more about him just now.

 

Rotating defensive line

low blitz rate

cover 3/4

Reduced big plays

 

he is PERFECT.

So you were trolling.  Got it

[TheEdgeis1]

Now I’m not defending Gus by any means, and would like a new DC.  But losing Brents, Buckner, Lewis, Ebukam isn’t helping this defense.  I do like Womack so far.

 

Also would switching to a true 4-3 defense help us?  Didn’t we use 3 linebackers with Flus when Leonard was having his All Pro season?

[Bravo]

35 minutes ago, jvan1973 said:

So you were trolling.  Got it

Is it really trolling if most of it is unfortunately true? Exaggerating, definitely.

[NewColtsFan]

38 minutes ago, Jz0204945 said:

Thats because Ballard is an *.

 

🙄      

[John Hammonds]

Here's a crazy idea. Go head and hire Saleh as DC. And keep an eye on Sauce Gardner. He was very close with Saleh. And doesn't really seem all that on board with the changes that are happening with the Jets. He may be open to a trade to go play for his mentor again.

[Shive]

4 hours ago, TheEdgeis1 said:

Also would switching to a true 4-3 defense help us?  Didn’t we use 3 linebackers with Flus when Leonard was having his All Pro season?

We play with a 4-3 base defense, but most teams these days (us included) end up in nickel quiet often. That was the case under Flus, is still the case under Gus, and would be the same with Saleh.

[IndyEV]

Sal-Ehhh…Hard pass!

[Smonroe]

We don’t really have a playmaker on D.  We were hoping Latu would be that guy but he’s still learning and not there yet. 
 

We really miss Leonard.  
 

When everyone comes back the D can be mediocre,  that could be enough if the O clicks. 
 

It would have been so much better if Ballard brought in an experienced CB and a good Safety.  

[GoColts8818]

I’d love to have Saleh but he’s not taking any job mid-season.  He’s going to wait until the off-season and have his pick of jobs.

[GoColts8818]

13 minutes ago, Smonroe said:

We don’t really have a playmaker on D.  We were hoping Latu would be that guy but he’s still learning and not there yet. 
 

We really miss Leonard.  
 

When everyone comes back the D can be mediocre,  that could be enough if the O clicks. 
 

It would have been so much better if Ballard brought in an experienced CB and a good Safety.  

The have Buckner and him being hurt is really hurting.  No Buckner doesn’t come up with turnovers but he does get to the QB fairly consistently.  You are right they don’t have that big turnover guy Leonard was.

[ChuggaBeer]

I am pretty sure most guys like Selah and others who get fired will want to ride out the season and see if there is HCing intrest from any needy teams.     

[MB-ColtsFan]

18 hours ago, ChuggaBeer said:

I am pretty sure most guys like Selah and others who get fired will want to ride out the season and see if there is HCing intrest from any needy teams.     

If I were Saleh and still wanted to be a HC, I would do what you describe, for sure.

[JediXMan]

Jets gave up 23 to a Bills team with limited weapons. It’s going to be interesting if their defense regresses moving forward lol.

[Superman]

On 10/13/2024 at 8:40 PM, GoColts8818 said:

The have Buckner and him being hurt is really hurting.  No Buckner doesn’t come up with turnovers but he does get to the QB fairly consistently.  You are right they don’t have that big turnover guy Leonard was.

 

Also, Eberflus emphasized getting turnovers. It was a point of focus each year, and I don't know that Bradley does the same. Bradley's defenses have been on the low end for turnovers for several years now.

[2006Coltsbestever]

We haven't had a sack in 2 weeks. It's easy to know why, Buckner has been out. He opens everything up for our Ends. I called it last week and said Levis was good for 1 INT, that was the difference in the game in reality. We got that and went down and scored a TD. Changed the whole game. 

[richard pallo]

Just now, 2006Coltsbestever said:

We haven't had a sack in 2 weeks. It's easy to know why, Buckner has been out. He opens everything up for our Ends. I called it last week and said Levis was good for 1 INT, that was the difference in the game in reality. We got that and went down and scored a TD. Changed the whole game. 

Agree,  Buckner returning will lead to more sacks.  That should be obvious for everyone.

[Superman]

16 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

We haven't had a sack in 2 weeks. It's easy to know why, Buckner has been out. He opens everything up for our Ends. I called it last week and said Levis was good for 1 INT, that was the difference in the game in reality. We got that and went down and scored a TD. Changed the whole game. 

 

We're getting quick-passed the last two weeks, and that's why we're not getting sacks.

 

Trevor Lawrence's season average time to throw is 2.65 seconds. Against the Colts, it was 2.35 seconds.

 

Will Levis' season average time to throw is 2.78 seconds. Against the Colts, it was 2.58 seconds. 

[GoColts8818]

1 hour ago, Superman said:

 

Also, Eberflus emphasized getting turnovers. It was a point of focus each year, and I don't know that Bradley does the same. Bradley's defenses have been on the low end for turnovers for several years now.

Agree.  I know Eberflus was not perfect but his defenses did laps around Bradley’s IMO.

[Superman]

18 minutes ago, GoColts8818 said:

Agree.  I know Eberflus was not perfect but his defenses did laps around Bradley’s IMO.

 

Yeah, I'm no fan of Eberflus either, but turnovers is one area in which his defense always excelled. Part of that is Leonard was a playmaker, but I also think Eberflus had something to do with it.

[stitches]

1 hour ago, Superman said:

 

Also, Eberflus emphasized getting turnovers. It was a point of focus each year, and I don't know that Bradley does the same. Bradley's defenses have been on the low end for turnovers for several years now.

That's true... you are what you emphasize... but also... I'd like to point out that a TON of our turnover generation during the Eberflus' years was directly linked to one single player that we no longer have. 

[Superman]

5 minutes ago, stitches said:

That's true... you are what you emphasize... but also... I'd like to point out that a TON of our turnover generation during the Eberflus' years was directly linked to one single player that we no longer have. 

 

Agreed. And turnovers is a high variance stat anyway, so no one coach or player should get too much credit for a team's high performance in that area. But Leonard definitely had a special ability to create turnovers. 

 

What's more interesting to me is that Bradley's defenses have a good nine year history of being toward the bottom of the league in turnovers. The Colts went from 2nd in 2021 (with Eberflus), to 19th in 2022 and tied for 16th in 2023 (when we played several terrible QBs). Go back to his year with the Raiders, his time with the Chargers, and his time as HC of the Jags, and his defenses have been bottom half in creating turnovers every season. Some years, bottom five, and one year dead last.