ColtStrong2013 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 Just now, 2006Coltsbestever said: He started 16 games in 2022 and the 49ers are loaded. "What's that Colts forum? You like a cornerback from Toledo? Well here you go..." Chris Ballard 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Superman Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 Just now, ColtStrong2013 said: What was needed. Little information on him, but I can't imagine he's at the back of the depth chart just based on what I've seen. This clip is literally all I know about him, so I'm not getting worked up. But he looks good. That's more than we saw from Micah Abraham in preseason. He looks like a nickel backup, he can play some boundary corner, he gets his hands on the ball, and he's a STs ace. I like it. Unrelated: The PS is 16 players. I was thinking it's 12. The Colts have a lot of work to do... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 Just now, ColtStrong2013 said: "What's that Colts forum? You like a cornerback from Toledo? Well here you go..." Chris Ballard He may start, I will go that far with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Irrelevant Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 6 minutes ago, Superman said: Maybe we got lucky, seems like we need a bit of luck to get good DB players now the front office won’t invest there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtStrong2013 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 Just now, Superman said: This clip is literally all I know about him, so I'm not getting worked up. But he looks good. That's more than we saw from Micah Abraham in preseason. He looks like a nickel backup, he can play some boundary corner, he gets his hands on the ball, and he's a STs ace. I like it. Unrelated: The PS is 16 players. I was thinking it's 12. The Colts have a lot of work to do... Get to work Ballard & co. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1959Colts Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 1 minute ago, Superman said: Unrelated: The PS is 16 players. I was thinking it's 12. The Colts have a lot of work to do... Hoping for Zavier Scott next Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krunk Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 36 minutes ago, RollerColt said: I got my Hull back, I got my Hull back!! Hip Hip hooray!!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeanDiasucci Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 10 minutes ago, Superman said: This clip is literally all I know about him, so I'm not getting worked up. But he looks good. That's more than we saw from Micah Abraham in preseason. He looks like a nickel backup, he can play some boundary corner, he gets his hands on the ball, and he's a STs ace. I like it. Unrelated: The PS is 16 players. I was thinking it's 12. The Colts have a lot of work to do... I like that scouting reports on Womack say his strength is in pass coverage, not run support. The Colts have loaded up on big DBs known for being stronger in run support than pass coverage in college. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stitches Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 Damn... Baker out? 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLD FAN MAN Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 4 hours ago, compuls1v3 said: 6 starters out of one draft is pretty good IMHO. just because they start for the colts does not mean they could start for the top teams Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jz0204945 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 9 minutes ago, stitches said: Damn... Baker out? Good he stunk last year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 8 minutes ago, stitches said: Damn... Baker out? A bit surprised. Flowers did nothing to make this roster, but Baker had a good TC and pre-season. They must be giving Flowers grace for the fact that he’s not fully recovered from the Achilles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jz0204945 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 1 minute ago, RollerColt said: Classic Ballard there were efforts to get better players but we low balled them or better yet we didnt even try to sign them cause i have blind belief i. The guys i drafted that are still not getting the job done. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1959Colts Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 12 minutes ago, Archer said: A bit surprised. Flowers did nothing to make this roster, but Baker had a good TC and pre-season. They must be giving Flowers grace for the fact that he’s not fully recovered from the Achilles. The team is probably hoping Baker makes it through to practice squad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Restinpeacesweetchloe Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 This seems lopsided. I assume Harrison will be back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifetime Colt Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 17 minutes ago, Jz0204945 said: Good he stunk last year... He was injured last year, but the evaluation is classic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifetime Colt Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 18 minutes ago, Jz0204945 said: Classic Ballard there were efforts to get better players but we low balled them or better yet we didnt even try to sign them cause i have blind belief i. The guys i drafted that are still not getting the job done. Classic Ballard hater, with no idea what he did or did not try to do to add to the team. He did say there will be roster adjustments throughout the first month as normal. What do you think he should have said about the players who did make the 53? " They suck, but we will let them fail on their own" that really helps with their commitment and confidence. I do think the organization is late to the party successfully addressing some specific needs, but believe they have tried somewhat. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 13 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said: This seems lopsided. I assume Harrison will be back. Womack actually has game. He will be better than Baker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Hammonds Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 Let's caution ourselves on our expectations for these waiver pickups. Let's not believe that who we pick up would automatically be a starter. Or a pro bowl player. These are for the bottom decile of the bottom decile of the team. If the player sucked enough to be waived from a different team, it shouldn't automatically follow that they'll be the best player on our team. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard pallo Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 Looks like one waiver wire claim but there are still a number of veterans out there who didn’t have to go through waivers. They are FA so I wouldn’t be surprised if we sign one or two for depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmopar Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 1 hour ago, ColtStrong2013 said: "What's that Colts forum? You like a cornerback from Toledo? Well here you go..." Chris Ballard Yet most of this forum will say it’s not enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Pennock Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 12 minutes ago, John Hammonds said: Let's caution ourselves on our expectations for these waiver pickups. Let's not believe that who we pick up would automatically be a starter. Or a pro bowl player. These are for the bottom decile of the bottom decile of the team. If the player sucked enough to be waived from a different team, it shouldn't automatically follow that they'll be the best player on our team. Did you have that same energy about Kenny Moore II when he was a cut down day casualty that we signed? A change of scenery and an opportunity to play is all a player needs sometimes to come into their own. I, for one, am not advocating that Womack will turn out as successfully as Moore but let’s give him a chance before crowning him or cutting him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmopar Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 Just now, Scott Pennock said: Did you have that same energy about Kenny Moore II when he was a cut down day casualty that we signed? A change of scenery and an opportunity to play is all a player needs sometimes to come into their own. I, for one, am not advocating that Womack will turn out as successfully as Moore but let’s give him a chance before crowning him or cutting him. The way I read John’s post was just as your last paragraph says. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JediXMan Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 1 hour ago, stitches said: Damn... Baker out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 19 minutes ago, John Hammonds said: Let's caution ourselves on our expectations for these waiver pickups. Let's not believe that who we pick up would automatically be a starter. Or a pro bowl player. These are for the bottom decile of the bottom decile of the team. If the player sucked enough to be waived from a different team, it shouldn't automatically follow that they'll be the best player on our team. The 49ers are deep on defense, just because the guy got cut doesn't mean he will suck. The 49ers are loaded on defense and by the way he is pretty good, I have seen him play. He is better than Baker. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Hammonds Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 2 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said: The 49ers are deep on defense, just because the guy got cut doesn't mean he will suck. The 49ers are loaded on defense and by the way he is pretty good, I have seen him play. He is better than Baker. Along with @Scott Pennock and @csmopar My post was in response to the comments of "Why would we take Womack? He sucks!" Well, I'm not expecting him to be amazing. To Scott's point -- I don't think either the Patriots nor the Colts ever foresaw just how good Kenny Moore turned out to be. So, sure, there's going to be someone who falls through the cracks and winds up being really, really good. But to take somebody on waivers and expect them to be amazing? I would doubt it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2006Coltsbestever Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 4 minutes ago, John Hammonds said: Along with @Scott Pennock and @csmopar My post was in response to the comments of "Why would we take Womack? He sucks!" Well, I'm not expecting him to be amazing. To Scott's point -- I don't think either the Patriots nor the Colts ever foresaw just how good Kenny Moore turned out to be. So, sure, there's going to be someone who falls through the cracks and winds up being really, really good. But to take somebody on waivers and expect them to be amazing? I would doubt it. I am not saying he will be amazing, but he's better than Baker. JMO 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 4 minutes ago, John Hammonds said: Along with @Scott Pennock and @csmopar . To Scott's point -- I don't think either the Patriots nor the Colts ever foresaw just how good Kenny Moore turned out to be. So, sure, there's going to be someone who falls through the cracks and winds up being really, really good. But to take somebody on waivers and expect them to be amazing? I would doubt it. Ballard didn’t want to sign Moore. He has said that he had two of his scouts jumping on the table for him after cuts, so he put the waiver claim in reluctantly… 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColtStrong2013 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 56 minutes ago, John Hammonds said: Let's caution ourselves on our expectations for these waiver pickups. Let's not believe that who we pick up would automatically be a starter. Or a pro bowl player. These are for the bottom decile of the bottom decile of the team. If the player sucked enough to be waived from a different team, it shouldn't automatically follow that they'll be the best player on our team. I can't imagine anyone thinking he's the best on this roster... I don't assume he'll even be on the field until injury, but I do think there is a good chance he isn't the worst on roster. I can't believe we kept Flowers over Baker, based on what my eyeballs saw this preseason... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archer Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 Simpson, Treadwell, Lammons, and Dabo all on PS as per Colts.com roster. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compuls1v3 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 20 hours ago, DavePSL said: Another thing that really concerns me about the secondary is that if they can't cover and we play them off because we dont trust them it will negate the entire "Great pass rush" that we hope to have. I can see us having better pass rushers this year but having a lot less sacks because of our "young secondary " and that will be very disappointing considering anybody that has any knowledge about football understands that a pass rush and secondary work together when it comes to disrupting and getting pressure on the QB. Rome wasn't built in a draft. Truth is, we have a lot of holes to fill. If we get good QB play, good WR play, and good D line play, I'll be happy. I'm ok with waiting until next year to get better a CB. If our WRs are as good as we think they are, well, that was done over the course of 2-3 years. It may be the same for our secondary as well. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compuls1v3 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 4 hours ago, NewColtsFan said: That list isn’t one draft. It’s two. 2020 and 2021 Take a second look. Even so, 6 starters from 2 drafts is still pretty good in my book. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krunk Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 28 minutes ago, ColtStrong2013 said: I can't imagine anyone thinking he's the best on this roster... I don't assume he'll even be on the field until injury, but I do think there is a good chance he isn't the worst on roster. I can't believe we kept Flowers over Baker, based on what my eyeballs saw this preseason... Flowers is coming back from an Achilles tear. Coaching staff knew what he'd look like early. Bradley told the media this. And to Flowers credit none of the other games we played this preseason looked like that Cardinals game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krunk Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 You mean the great Micah Abraham didn't even make the PS? And no other team snatched him up either? I'm flabbergasted! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 21 minutes ago, compuls1v3 said: Even so, 6 starters from 2 drafts is still pretty good in my book. It is. Three starters from a draft is what teams hope for. Just wanted to clarify. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compuls1v3 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 Just now, NewColtsFan said: It is. Three starters from a draft is what teams hope for. Just wanted to clarify. Much appreciated. I was kind of narrowed in on the underlined players, and didn't notice the difference in years! By the way, I hope our secondary takes a step forward this year. I think by bolstering the pass rush with Latu and Paye getting better again, I think it will help limit the homerun throws 20+ yards down the field. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jz0204945 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 2 hours ago, Lifetime Colt said: He was injured last year, but the evaluation is classic. Baker was injured no he just sucked but ok classic reaction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewColtsFan Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 40 minutes ago, krunk said: You mean the great Micah Abraham didn't even make the PS? And no other team snatched him up either? I'm flabbergasted! Sarcasm aside, it certainly raises my eyebrows…. Perhaps we wanted him back and he said no? Maybe he wants to pick a different team with more opportunity? It’s not clear, but it certainly got my attention. I think our current PS is now 11, so there is still room for 5 more. Worth watching. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifetime Colt Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 31 minutes ago, Jz0204945 said: Baker was injured no he just sucked but ok classic reaction. ------------------------ Sorry, it seemed you were referring to Womack. Yes, Baker left a stench at times when he played. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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