Chappell reports sprained AC joint for Richardson (MERGE)

[Colt.45]

AR has had some terrible luck this season but for all those fans who thought he should spend the year as backup, this is the best of both worlds. He plays some, gets to watch and learn some. Gets to learn lessons.

 

Glad this coaching staff get 'it'. They've been well prepared the whole way....this is why we kept Ehlinger

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

 

[Indianapolis-Colts-Fan]

5 minutes ago, DougDew said:

Right, so they protect themselves against their teams that might want them back ASAP to win games this season.

Out of everyone it would be AR who wants to come back sooner to avoid surgery. Many players prefer not to have surgery if at all possible. I don’t think the Colts are dumb enough to push AR back too early, their perceived franchise QB. 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

21 minutes ago, DougDew said:

Sam may not have the same arm strength, but he can escape just fine.  More importantly, he has shown the ability to get tackled and not get injured or fumble 50% of the time (exaggeration, for the wordsmiths reading this).

I wonder if Shane could incorporate some of the stuff that same does well into the offense. Might not be smart with one injured QB already. But maybe in the red zone we could use him.

[DougDew]

2 minutes ago, Indianapolis-Colts-Fan said:

Out of everyone it would be AR who wants to come back sooner to avoid surgery. Many players prefer not to have surgery if at all possible. I don’t think the Colts are dumb enough to push AR back too early, their perceived franchise QB. 

Why would AR want to risk his long term earnings potential by coming back 3 or 4 games too soon?  I'm not calling the Colts evil or anything, but I think AR has more of a vested interest in his long term health than an NFL team does.

[DougDew]

2 minutes ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

I wonder if Shane could incorporate some of the stuff that same does well into the offense. Might not be smart with one injured QB already. But maybe in the red zone we could use him.

Sam does pretty much everything good enough.  IMO, Sam is a more direct comparison to AR than Minshew, albeit obviously not as physically gifted.

[cjwhiskers]

If there is a silver lining in any of this, it’s that maybe this is also a result of poor/limited rehab of the previous injury on this shoulder. His prior injury history might suggest that maybe he wasn’t on the most optimal treatment/rehab plan. 
 

Now with quite literally access to the top medical and rehab services that come with the NFL there is a chance this could help his shoulder get even stronger for the long run. 
 

I don’t like shoulder injuries by any means…but there is no doubt that he will have access to medical professionals like never before. 

[Tsarquise]

1 hour ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Not looking good.

Good news is when Bengals lost Burrow his rookie year they went to SB the next year.

I forgot this happened to Burrow. Couldn't recall any rookie getting severely injured and coming back great and panning out. Only thing is that most of these QBs were accomplished college QBs and Richardson isn't. It's hard for me to be too currently optimistic about the selection, but this info does help

1 hour ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Not looking good.

Good news is when Bengals lost Burrow his rookie year they went to SB the next year.

I forgot this happened to Burrow. Couldn't recall any rookie getting severely injured and coming back great and panning out. Only thing is that most of these QBs were accomplished college QBs and Richardson isn't. It's hard for me to be too currently optimistic about the selection, but this info does help

1 hour ago, Restinpeacesweetchloe said:

Not looking good.

Good news is when Bengals lost Burrow his rookie year they went to SB the next year.

I forgot this happened to Burrow. Couldn't recall any rookie getting severely injured and coming back great and panning out. Only thing is that most of these QBs were accomplished college QBs and Richardson isn't. It's hard for me to be too currently optimistic about the selection, but this info does help

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

28 minutes ago, DougDew said:

Seeking multiple opinions might mean that AR is protecting himself against the Colts wanting to rush him back for some perceived division title competition,,...,and he's thinking long term with himself.

 

I don't know why I would care how soon he gets back.  Its about making sure this injury to his throwing shoulder isn't a reoccurring thing.

There is nothing out of the ordinary here.

 

 

[shakedownstreet]

2 hours ago, TrueBlue4ever said:

Who will we bring in as the 3rd string QB behind Sam? 

 

[2006Coltsbestever]

4 minutes ago, Tsarquise said:

I forgot this happened to Burrow. Couldn't recall any rookie getting severely injured and coming back great and panning out. Only thing is that most of these QBs were accomplished college QBs and Richardson isn't. It's hard for me to be too currently optimistic about the selection, but this info does help

I forgot this happened to Burrow. Couldn't recall any rookie getting severely injured and coming back great and panning out. Only thing is that most of these QBs were accomplished college QBs and Richardson isn't. It's hard for me to be too currently optimistic about the selection, but this info does help

I forgot this happened to Burrow. Couldn't recall any rookie getting severely injured and coming back great and panning out. Only thing is that most of these QBs were accomplished college QBs and Richardson isn't. It's hard for me to be too currently optimistic about the selection, but this info does help

AR was still playing well before this injury and yes Burrow missed the last 6 games of his rookie season due to a torn ACL/MCL. 

[Moosejawcolt]

2 hours ago, Indyfan4life said:

 

Yikes, doesn't sound good. 

[GoColts8818]

22 minutes ago, Shive said:

Exactly. I honestly think he's just trying to gather as much information as possible to make the best decision that he can. Taking care of this injury the right way could be the difference between a return to form or completely ruining his throwing arm.

Yeah, normally you go to your team doctor/specialist and they give you an initial opinion and then if they bring up surgery or more than a few weeks of rest they send you to one of the really well known specialist in that field and to get their opinion because they can afford it.  I also agree with you since it’s your rookie QB and it’s his throwing arm of course they are going to error on the side of caution and get him the best treatment they can before making any decisions.

[Moosejawcolt]

2 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

AR was still playing well before this injury and yes Burrow missed the last 6 games of his rookie season due to a torn ACL/MCL. 

ACL less alarming injury to a qb that doesn't rely on his athleticism. Injury to throwing shoulder much more concerning. I just have visions of Luck all over again. His arm was never the same, and if u watched that KC playoff game, you would have noticed that. I would have never drafted Young because I thought he would never last in the NFL. Getting hurt was the least of my concerns regarding Richardson.

[2006Coltsbestever]

7 minutes ago, shakedownstreet said:

 

[John Waylon]

[luv_pony_express]

3 hours ago, NFLfan said:

 

If he did not stretch ligaments, he should be good to go in no more than six weeks.

 

From what I've read, a Grade 3 AC Separation involves tearing of both the acromioclavicular (AC) and coracoclavicular (CC) ligaments (a Grade 2 involves tearing of one of these).

 

But, obviously, take that with a grain of salt.  I have no idea about the severity of AR's injury and I'm assuredly not a doctor.

[2006Coltsbestever]

3 minutes ago, Moosejawcolt said:

ACL less alarming injury to a qb that doesn't rely on his athleticism. Injury to throwing shoulder much more concerning. I just have visions of Luck all over again. His arm was never the same, and if u watched that KC playoff game, you would have noticed that. I would have never drafted Young because I thought he would never last in the NFL. Getting hurt was the least of my concerns regarding Richardson.

Matt Stafford had the same exact injury when he was young as AR has now and that was over 10 years ago. A Grade 3 shoulder sprain. Stafford recovered fine and has had a very good if not great career. He even won a SB.

[BlackTiger]

48 minutes ago, DougDew said:

Sam may not have the same arm strength, but he can escape just fine.  More importantly, he has shown the ability to get tackled and not get injured or fumble 50% of the time (exaggeration, for the wordsmiths reading this).

Too bad he cant get TDs the way Richardson does.  I dont think sam has the talent to win games in the league

[Moosejawcolt]

1 hour ago, RollerColt said:

Absolutely. The Bengals picked up Chase who immediately had an impact on the team and Joe’s development. We have got to get Anthony a #1 WR next year so he quits this running stuff. 

If your plan is to quit running him , then why did u draft a 250 pound qb who can jump to the moon and run a 4.4 fourty? U lose half of his skill set. If this is who he is moving forward, I  bet the Colts will be scouting qbs. There is no way u can rely on a qb with this injury history so short into his career. Let'shopefully  chalk it up as dumb luck and he will be healthy moving forward. However, if he comes back and ends up on the sidelines again. I think the Cols will seriously think of alternate plans regarding the qb position. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

Just now, BlackTiger said:

Too bad he cant get TDs the way Richardson does.  I dont think sam has the talent to win games in the league

I hate to say this but Sam stinks. If Mustache gets injured, we are done. 

[Moosejawcolt]

2 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Matt Stafford had the same exact injury when he was young as AR has now and that was over 10 years ago. A Grade 3 shoulder sprain. Stafford recovered fine and has had a very good if not great career. He even won a SB.

Agreed, but Stafford was tough as nails as a rookie and took a lot of hits. I don't think he missed 3 out of his first 5 games. That's concerning

[RollerColt]

Just now, Moosejawcolt said:

If your plan is to quit running him , then why did u draft a 250 pound qb who can jump to the moon and run a 4.4 fourty? U lose half of his skill set. If this is who he is moving forward, I  bet the Colts will be scouting qbs. There is no way u can rely on a qb with this injury history so short into his career. Let'shopefully  chalk it up as dumb luck and he will be healthy moving forward. However, if he comes back and ends up on the sidelines again. I think the Cols will seriously think of alternate plans regarding the qb position. 

We should be scouting QBs regardless, but it’s very concerning that our massive athletic freak of a QB is getting hurt so often…

 

I thought with his size we’d be okay in that department… 

[BlackTiger]

Just now, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I hate to say this but Sam stinks. If Mustache gets injured, we are done. 

I have to agree, i have not seen anything from Sam to make me think we could win games with him.  Im a fan of Minshew, pretty good passer and mobile enough to avoid to make someone miss.

[2006Coltsbestever]

3 minutes ago, Moosejawcolt said:

Agreed, but Stafford was tough as nails as a rookie and took a lot of hits. I don't think he missed 3 out of his first 5 games. That's concerning

Stafford missed 6 games his rookie season due to injury.

[GoColts8818]

2 minutes ago, BlackTiger said:

I have to agree, i have not seen anything from Sam to make me think we could win games with him.  Im a fan of Minshew, pretty good passer and mobile enough to avoid to make someone miss.

This also isn’t last year where the line was getting destroyed.  They are five games in and I believe still yet to be credited with giving up a sack.  They are protecting the QBs.  All of the Richardson injuries have come when he’s run and frankly taken normal NFL hits.  That suggests one of three things.  This is what happens to running QBs in the NFL, he’s been really unlucky with fluke injuries, or he’s just fragile.  
 

Either way as you pointed out the running isn’t going to be an issue with Minshew.  He can move so he’s not a statue back there but he’s not going to be confused with Richardson or Jackson either.  He’s going to stay in the pocket and make plays and so far with this line when that happens good things happen regardless of which QB is in there.  

[DougDew]

7 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

I hate to say this but Sam stinks. If Mustache gets injured, we are done. 

Done with what?  Our budding SuperBowl season? 

 

And before you bring up BAL, check out their game yesterday. 

[TaylorStillTruckedYou]

Sometimes I just feel like someone has a voodoo doll with the Colts logo planted on it, because I never seen such terrible luck when it comes to our team...Take a step forward, then get a nice big boot to the face

[JediXMan]

1 minute ago, DougDew said:

Done with what?  Our budding SuperBowl season? 

 

And before you bring up BAL, check out their game yesterday. 

Nelson Agleglar continues to trick teams into signing him lol.

[FanFromtheWasteland]

A month until his next injury.

[Moosejawcolt]

11 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Stafford missed 6 games his rookie season due to injury.

My error but he took a lot of brutal hits over his career. One can argue that Richardson is either made of glass or just having a run of very bad luck. I think you and me have watched a lot of sports over the years. It does not project well over a players career  to be injured in 3 our of 5 games as a rookie.   Honestly, I cannot think of another player who has started off his career in this manner and has gone on to have a lengthy career. Can you name one? Not trying to be super negative but it is a real bummer.

[King Colt]

Minshew is playing better than half than the rich starters. The Colts have a double barrel running attack. If the Cots coaching staff can develop a strategy of how to best implement the three (QB +2 RBs) it will be a nice season to sit back and enjoy. I don't know the injury history of AR so I hope this shoulder injury is a fluke. A plyer as athletic as he is does not mean he is injury proof. Maybe he will learn how to protect himself against hits. Pros hit harder the college boys.

[Moosejawcolt]

15 minutes ago, RollerColt said:

We should be scouting QBs regardless, but it’s very concerning that our massive athletic freak of a QB is getting hurt so often…

 

I thought with his size we’d be okay in that department… 

No doubt. I know it is early, but I bet the Colts r already having those discussions internally. What do u  do if he comes back in, say, 4 weeks and gets hurt again?

[jvan1973]

19 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Stafford missed 6 games his rookie season due to injury.

He was out the final 13 games his second season

[1959Colts]

Does anyone know if IR is an option?

Or by placing him there, does that mean he misses the entire season?

[Scott Pennock]

Oh nooooooo, we suck again! Hahahaha

[jvan1973]

8 minutes ago, Moosejawcolt said:

My error but he took a lot of brutal hits over his career. One can argue that Richardson is either made of glass or just having a run of very bad luck. I think you and me have watched a lot of sports over the years. It does not project well over a players career  to be injured in 3 our of 5 games as a rookie.   Honestly, I cannot think of another player who has started off his career in this manner and has gone on to have a lengthy career. Can you name one? Not trying to be super negative but it is a real bummer.

Stafford missed 19 games the first 2 seasons of his career

[1959Colts]

28 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Matt Stafford had the same exact injury when he was young as AR has now and that was over 10 years ago. A Grade 3 shoulder sprain. Stafford recovered fine and has had a very good if not great career. He even won a SB.

He sure did well against us in OT last week

[jvan1973]

2 minutes ago, 1959Colts said:

Does anyone know if IR is an option?

Or by placing him there, does that mean he misses the entire season?

He can come back this year,  but he can't attend practices

[GoColts8818]

3 minutes ago, 1959Colts said:

Does anyone know if IR is an option?

Or by placing him there, does that mean he misses the entire season?

Chap said it’s on the table and and you can designate him to return he just has to miss at least four weeks if you do that.