Why go cheap at tackle?

[throwing BBZ]

  It is the most important position on the line!

  Using the Spotrac 22 Cap Hit, here are the top spenders at T based on highest 2 paid players.

  I DID NOT cross reference these numbers but i thought the exercise interesting. lol

1. SF     14 + 10.9M  = 24.9

2. DET  18.9 + 5.5M = 24.4

3. DEN  21  + 2.5M   = 23.5

4. TB     18.4 + 4.4M = 22.8

5. BAL   18.5 + 3.2M = 21.7

6. HOU  17.7 + 3.9M  = 21.6

7. PHIL  15.7 + 4.4M  = 21.1

8. DAL    17.5 + 2.4M  = 19.9

9. ATL     15.2 + 3.2M  = 18.4

10. GB     13.4 + 4.7M  = 18.1

11. KC     16.6 + 1.2M  = 17.8

12. IND   11.5 + 5.5M  = 17.1 *****

13. TN     14.7 + 1.8M  = 16.5

14. CLE   11     + 5.4M  = 16.4

15. NYJ    11.1 + 5M     = 16.1

16. ARIZ   12.6 + 2.4M  = 15

17. CAR      7.9  + 6.5M  = 14.4

18.BUFF   12.7 + 1.0M   = 13.7

19. NYG     8.8  + 4.4M   = 13.2

20. RAMS  9.6  + 3.5M   = 13.1

21. MIN      9.3  + 3.0M   = 12.3

22. NO        8.5  + 3.4M   =11.9

23. JAC      7.7  + 3.7M   = 11.4

24. LAC      7.5  + 3.8M   = 11.3

25. CIN       5.6  + 4.6M   = 10.2

26. LASV    6.7  + 3.5M   = 10.2

27. MIA      4.0  + 3.7M    = 7.7

28. PITT     4.3  + 3.1M    = 7.4

29. NE         4.5  + 1M       = 5.5

30. SEA       3.9  + 1M      = 4.9

31.WASH   2.7  + 1.5M   = 4.2

32. CHI        3.0 + .9M     = 3.9  

[holeymoley99]

If you pay your RT,LG and Center big money need to play less somewhere it's just dollars and sense......

[NewColtsFan]

8 minutes ago, throwing BBZ said:

  It is the most important position on the line!

  Using the Spotrac 22 Cap Hit, here are the top spenders at T based on highest 2 paid players.

  I DID NOT cross reference these numbers but i thought the exercise interesting. lol

1. SF     14 + 10.9M  = 24.9

2. DET  18.9 + 5.5M = 24.4

3. DEN  21  + 2.5M   = 23.5

4. TB     18.4 + 4.4M = 22.8

5. BAL   18.5 + 3.2M = 21.7

6. HOU  17.7 + 3.9M  = 21.6

7. PHIL  15.7 + 4.4M  = 21.1

8. DAL    17.5 + 2.4M  = 19.9

9. ATL     15.2 + 3.2M  = 18.4

10. GB     13.4 + 4.7M  = 18.1

11. KC     16.6 + 1.2M  = 17.8

12. IND   11.5 + 5.5M  = 17.1 *****

13. TN     14.7 + 1.8M  = 16.5

14. CLE   11     + 5.4M  = 16.4

15. NYJ    11.1 + 5M     = 16.1

16. ARIZ   12.6 + 2.4M  = 15

17. CAR      7.9  + 6.5M  = 14.4

18.BUFF   12.7 + 1.0M   = 13.7

19. NYG     8.8  + 4.4M   = 13.2

20. RAMS  9.6  + 3.5M   = 13.1

21. MIN      9.3  + 3.0M   = 12.3

22. NO        8.5  + 3.4M   =11.9

23. JAC      7.7  + 3.7M   = 11.4

24. LAC      7.5  + 3.8M   = 11.3

25. CIN       5.6  + 4.6M   = 10.2

26. LASV    6.7  + 3.5M   = 10.2

27. MIA      4.0  + 3.7M    = 7.7

28. PITT     4.3  + 3.1M    = 7.4

29. NE         4.5  + 1M       = 5.5

30. SEA       3.9  + 1M      = 4.9

31.WASH   2.7  + 1.5M   = 4.2

32. CHI        3.0 + .9M     = 3.9  

According to the stats you just provided we are not going cheap.   And if Pryor does well, his salary will easily double next year.  Plus our RT is one of the highest paid RTs in football. 
 

So, what was your point again?  

[PRnum1]

We have to give our guard a 100m.

 

So we will have to save money elsewhere on the line.

[throwing BBZ]

3 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

According to the stats you just provided we are not going cheap.   And if Pryor does well, his salary will easily double next year.  Plus our RT is one of the highest paid RTs in football. 
 

So, what was your point again?  

 

 Don't be so thick. 

[throwing BBZ]

4 minutes ago, PRnum1 said:

We have to give our guard a 100m.

 

So we will have to save money elsewhere on the line.

 

 Clearly the hope is Raimann can win the job for 23. And of course Kelly will be looked at. Just business.

[NewColtsFan]

6 minutes ago, throwing BBZ said:

 

 Don't be so thick. 

When you can’t make your point understandable, that’s a YOU problem, not a ME problem. 
 

I just committed that sin this week, so it’s fresh in my mind.   Take another swing and explain. 

[GoColts8818]

Because they aren’t planning on Pryor being the long term answer.  He’s holding the fort down until the rookie is ready.  The rookie is the same guy Venturi wanted the Colts to use their second round pick on draft night so he slide and the Colts might have gotten a steal.  

[throwing BBZ]

16 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

According to the stats you just provided we are not going cheap.   And if Pryor does well, his salary will easily double next year.  Plus our RT is one of the highest paid RTs in football. 
 

So, what was your point again?  

 

  It is just a list of salaries. One could make a variety of observations, hypothesis, conclusions from it.

 Your first sentence drew what i hoped all the ignorer of facts would comprehend. That their whining about CB NOT CARING enough about the position was phewy!

 And oh ya, i see 7 teams 18 and below that look like some of this years BEST Teams.

[Superman]

18 minutes ago, throwing BBZ said:

 

  It is just a list of salaries. One could make a variety of observations, hypothesis, conclusions from it.

 Your first sentence drew what i hoped all the ignorer of facts would comprehend. That their whining about CB NOT CARING enough about the position was phewy!

 And oh ya, i see 7 teams 18 and below that look like some of this years BEST Teams.

 

I definitely didn't get that from your OP. But I saw "tackle" and assumed you meant left tackle only. Just went back and now I see you're including more than just the left tackle. 

 

And yeah, ignorers of facts see things their own way, and there's no changing that.

[sb41champs]

We have a LOT of "stars" that command hefty $$$$.

 

You can't pay everyone big $$$ and field a competitive team.

 

Period.

[BeanDiasucci]

15 minutes ago, sb41champs said:

We have a LOT of "stars" that command hefty $$$$.

 

You can't pay everyone big $$$ and field a competitive team.

 

Period.

LEFT TACKLE would ideally be one of the positions that commands the HIGHEST $$$.

 

Period and exclamation point. 

[Nickster]

4 hours ago, BeanDiasucci said:

LEFT TACKLE would ideally be one of the positions that commands the HIGHEST $$$.

 

Period and exclamation point. 

Can you explain what you mean?  I don’t understand.

[gspdx]

Observation 1:  colts are about in the top 3rd in starting tackle salaries.  The biggest chunk on Smith, not the left tackle. 

 

Observation 2: spending big on tackles is no guarantee for success.  Look where Cincinnati and the rams are.

[chad72]

48 minutes ago, gspdx said:

Observation 1:  colts are about in the top 3rd in starting tackle salaries.  The biggest chunk on Smith, not the left tackle. 

 

Observation 2: spending big on tackles is no guarantee for success.  Look where Cincinnati and the rams are.

 

A few things regarding your Observation 2 - Andrew Whitworth of the Rams retired (made 8.5 mil. in his last year) and the Bengals, they paid a price for it with Burrow being one of the most sacked QBs in the league. The team won despite their OL struggles, thanks to Burrow's timely use of his legs, smart releases and timely play of their playoff defense. Their OL did rear its ugly head versus the pass rush of the Rams several times in the SB. 

 

While you don't need to be Top 5 in tackle spending, hovering around the league average should yield decent results. The younger the QB (especially in a rookie contract), the more you can (and should) invest in tackles, IMO.

[Matabix]

If I had my way this year we would be around 29. Just my opinion though.

[Dark Superman]

On 8/23/2022 at 8:11 PM, NewColtsFan said:

According to the stats you just provided we are not going cheap.   And if Pryor does well, his salary will easily double next year.  Plus our RT is one of the highest paid RTs in football. 
 

So, what was your point again?  

Yeah, neither one of those things are happening.

[lollygagger8]

On 8/24/2022 at 4:55 PM, BeanDiasucci said:

LEFT TACKLE would ideally be one of the positions that commands the HIGHEST $$$.

 

Period and exclamation point. 

 

 

[Indy87]

Wasn’t it merely last month fans were complaining about how much money was going into the oline? That sure got quiet. 

[Nevbot]

Hey maybe the Dolphins will trade us their starting LT for Braden Smith?  kick Pryor over to RT and then everyone will shut up about the proper allocation for money spent and where on the OLine.  Of course until we pay Nelson, which will immediately throw everyone into a hissy fit again. 

[2006Coltsbestever]

Many in here complain about our O.Line but yet they don't want to pay the O.Line. Am I missing something?