Left Tackle and Right Guard

[coltsfeva]

   I’m wondering how these two spots will play out this year: Kevin Bowen mentioned how Pryor struggles with speed guys and Pinter struggles with bull rushers.

     I think that’s pretty accurate, but that doesn’t mean they can’t improve on those deficiencies.

      If they continue to struggle and Raimann can improve enough to start at LT (he looked pretty good today), they can move Pryor to RG (which may be his natural position). 
       It wouldn’t surprise me if they did this, at some point or if they found some O lineman off the wire but I sure hope they figure it out.

[Colts1324]

8 minutes ago, coltsfeva said:

   I’m wondering how these two spots will play out this year: Kevin Bowen mentioned how Pryor struggles with speed guys and Pinter struggles with bull rushers.

     I think that’s pretty accurate, but that doesn’t mean they can’t improve on those deficiencies.

      If they continue to struggle and Raimann can improve enough to start at LT (he looked pretty good today), they can move Pryor to RG (which may be his natural position). 
       It wouldn’t surprise me if they did this, at some point or if they found some O lineman off the wire but I sure hope they figure it out.

It would be hard during the season bc Pryor lost weight to play LT. He’d need to beef back up to play RG. 

[Solid84]

I think preseason game 3 vs. the Bucs will be a good indicator of where we are - not a lot will happen between then and week 1. Most of our starters will play the first half and we can hope the Bucs will do similar.

[coltsfeva]

17 minutes ago, Colts1324 said:

It would be hard during the season bc Pryor lost weight to play LT. He’d need to beef back up to play RG. 

 His still listed at 332..watch talkin bout Willis?

[ruf]

1 hour ago, coltsfeva said:

   I’m wondering how these two spots will play out this year: Kevin Bowen mentioned how Pryor struggles with speed guys and Pinter struggles with bull rushers.

     I think that’s pretty accurate, but that doesn’t mean they can’t improve on those deficiencies.

      If they continue to struggle and Raimann can improve enough to start at LT (he looked pretty good today), they can move Pryor to RG (which may be his natural position). 
       It wouldn’t surprise me if they did this, at some point or if they found some O lineman off the wire but I sure hope they figure it out.

please see my topic "my concern" it is a problem going into the season with this oline. we will struggle to run the ball even with JT and it also looks like there will be trouble in pass protection (it only takes one up the middle to mess up those timing plays)

[NewColtsFan]

52 minutes ago, coltsfeva said:

 His still listed at 332..watch talkin bout Willis?

He's listed at 332.   But back around May he did an interview with the Colts media crew.   Said then he had already lost 10-15 pounds and planned to lose 5 more.  Sounds like his goal is to get down to 310-315-ish. 

[coltsfeva]

1 hour ago, ruf said:

please see my topic "my concern" it is a problem going into the season with this oline. we will struggle to run the ball even with JT and it also looks like there will be trouble in pass protection (it only takes one up the middle to mess up those timing plays)

   Raimann looked really solid tonight (I know it was against the third stringers). But I think they’ll address the issue, some how.

[Colts1324]

2 hours ago, coltsfeva said:

 His still listed at 332..watch talkin bout Willis?

Rookie mistake to assume their listed weight is accurate  

2 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

He's listed at 332.   But back around May he did an interview with the Colts media crew.   Said then he had already lost 10-15 pounds and planned to lose 5 more.  Sounds like his goal is to get down to 310-315-ish. 

 

[CR91]

I need to see Pryor and Pinter in a few real games before I think we have a problem. LT was gonna be issue. It's not something you fix so easily. Im glad people are starting to realize how good AC was

[AwesomeAustin]

5 hours ago, coltsfeva said:

   I’m wondering how these two spots will play out this year: Kevin Bowen mentioned how Pryor struggles with speed guys and Pinter struggles with bull rushers.

     I think that’s pretty accurate, but that doesn’t mean they can’t improve on those deficiencies.

      If they continue to struggle and Raimann can improve enough to start at LT (he looked pretty good today), they can move Pryor to RG (which may be his natural position). 
       It wouldn’t surprise me if they did this, at some point or if they found some O lineman off the wire but I sure hope they figure it out.

That’s assuming Pryor can beat Pinter out at guard. For some reason I’m thinking Pryor was weakest on the inside last year and performed much better at the tackle positions. 
 

This line needs time. Until the regular season is well underway we won’t know how they will be as an unit.  The DLs get better each week through week 5. Let’s see if the OL improves as well. 

[throwing BBZ]

12 hours ago, Colts1324 said:

It would be hard during the season bc Pryor lost weight to play LT. He’d need to beef back up to play RG. 

 

 Pretty sure Pryor was listed at 330 last year.

 In a recent article he admitted balloning to 360 after last season and boasted about having "lost weight" getting down to to 343 here in camp. 

 I know i was hoping he would get down to below 320 by hard work with more lean muscle mass. At his current size maintaining blocks, and finding defenders at the second level, and out in space will find him being below average. Smith is below average against speed rushers so our offense will see a lot of tight coverage and 8 in the box. JMO

[Hawkeyecolt]

12 hours ago, AwesomeAustin said:

That’s assuming Pryor can beat Pinter out at guard. For some reason I’m thinking Pryor was weakest on the inside last year and performed much better at the tackle positions. 
 

This line needs time. Until the regular season is well underway we won’t know how they will be as an unit.  The DLs get better each week through week 5. Let’s see if the OL improves as well. 

Pryor’s worst game was at Guard last year.  

[Nesjan3]

Pryor been getting worked by backups in his limited snaps so far. Not good seeing as our plan B is Raimann who is clearly not ready to start in this league. Im confident in the rest of the line though. Our depth is poor

[Boss7894]

Could Q potentially be better than all of them or are they about the same level at LT at this point?  Q used to be beast but not anymore tbh Father Time 

[EastStreet]

Murray (bad vs Bills) and Van Demark (horrible vs Lions).... sacks..... 

 

Pryor (not perfect) >> Fisher

 

Not worried.... 

 

But... Glow or Reed (both cheap.... )

 

 

[Boss7894]

2 minutes ago, EastStreet said:

Murray (bad vs Bills) and Van Demark (horrible vs Lions).... sacks..... 

 

Pryor (not perfect) >> Fisher

 

Not worried.... 

 

But... Glow or Reed (both cheap.... )

 

 

Reed but did he play LT for us?

[richard pallo]

A lot of teams are going to be looking for OL at final cutdown.  Not sure where we are in the pecking order but I think we are going to need a little luck on the waiver wire.

[EastStreet]

16 minutes ago, Boss7894 said:

Reed but did he play LT for us?

iOL

[Boss7894]

It seems that Reed isn’t available… Glow isn’t either lol

[1959Colts]

Chris Reed signed a two-year deal worth $4.5 million with the Vikings

Mark Glowinski signed a three-year deal worth $18.3 million with the Giants

 

[CR91]

Well there you have it folks

 

 

[Solid84]

54 minutes ago, CR91 said:

Well there you have it folks

 

 

At least this hopefully means he'll play all of first half vs. the Bucs. More time for the Oline to gel. Not sure he got the job because he was good or great - he had no real competition.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

17 minutes ago, Solid84 said:

At least this hopefully means he'll play all of first half vs. the Bucs. More time for the Oline to gel. Not sure he got the job because he was good or great - he had no real competition.

Looks like all the starters are going to play at least a half. I don’t expect Taylor to play though.

[2006Coltsbestever]

Just now, TaylorTheStudMuffin said:

Looks like all the starters are going to play at least a half. I don’t expect Taylor to play though.

Taylor won't play. 

[CR91]

11 minutes ago, TaylorTheStudMuffin said:

Looks like all the starters are going to play at least a half. I don’t expect Taylor to play though.

 

10 minutes ago, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Taylor won't play. 

 

All of Indy and fantasy owners would riot

[throwing BBZ]

35 minutes ago, Solid84 said:

At least this hopefully means he'll play all of first half vs. the Bucs. More time for the Oline to gel. Not sure he got the job because he was good or great - he had no real competition.

 

 Safe to say his past performance earned him that WHOPPING $6M one year contract and the starting job to lose. With Raimann and vet Kelly CB did establish a plan B and C.  We have concerns except for Q.

[Nickster]

19 hours ago, Colts1324 said:

Rookie mistake to assume their listed weight is accurate  

 

They’re kind of a joke.  

[Nickster]

19 hours ago, CR91 said:

I need to see Pryor and Pinter in a few real games before I think we have a problem. LT was gonna be issue. It's not something you fix so easily. Im glad people are starting to realize how good AC was

AC was tragically underrated on Colts.com lol.  

[lollygagger8]

Obviously have to wait for real games, but I'm more concerned about RG that LT at this point 

[Myles]

13 hours ago, throwing BBZ said:

 

  We have concerns except for Q.

What concerns do you have for Braiden Smith?

[MikeCurtis]

It takes some time to get the speed down at LT

 

IMHO just Pryor needs some snaps

 

If we can have health,,,,,,  We will be ok

[coltsfeva]

1 hour ago, MikeCurtis said:

It takes some time to get the speed down at LT

 

IMHO just Pryor needs some snaps

 

If we can have health,,,,,,  We will be ok

   At the risk of sounding like I’m waffling, this could be how it plays out. Ngakue said Pryor has ability and Pryor did okay against him, last year. I hope you are right and both Pryor and Pinter develop to solidify the line.

 

   

[Rhodelesstraveled]

On 8/20/2022 at 6:28 PM, coltsfeva said:

   I’m wondering how these two spots will play out this year: Kevin Bowen mentioned how Pryor struggles with speed guys and Pinter struggles with bull rushers.

     I think that’s pretty accurate, but that doesn’t mean they can’t improve on those deficiencies.

      If they continue to struggle and Raimann can improve enough to start at LT (he looked pretty good today), they can move Pryor to RG (which may be his natural position). 
       It wouldn’t surprise me if they did this, at some point or if they found some O lineman off the wire but I sure hope they figure it out.

When you consider what Jax and TN have on their DL going up against these weaknesses, picking Indy to win is a head scratcher.  

[Happy2BeHere]

LT is important because it’s often the QB’s “blindside”…our RT is pretty good maybe we should have told Ryan he needs to be a left hand QB going forward 

[Two_pound]

Anyone who has concerns about this offensive line, go talk to a steeler fan. On steeler talk this morning on radio station wdve they are baffled how the line that has been so bad the last 3 years is now counting on players to replace guys they couldn't beat out last year. It was hilarious. But then again the steelers with that God awful line these past 3 years(actually even longer) still win and make the playoffs, go figure. What's really funny a lot of steeler fans want Trubisky to start early to give the line more time to try to get better so Pickett doesn't get killed. Colt line is fine, more than good enough. Go Colts!

[Rhodelesstraveled]

On 8/21/2022 at 3:28 PM, CR91 said:

Well there you have it folks

 

 

Not great news.  

[throwing BBZ]

On 8/22/2022 at 7:50 AM, Myles said:

What concerns do you have for Braiden Smith?

 

He grades near ELITE as a run blocker. And will get beat often by speed rushers. IF, Pinter gets driven back by bull rushes and Smith gets beat... it will be interesting.

[NewColtsFan]

21 minutes ago, throwing BBZ said:

 

He grades near ELITE as a run blocker. And will get beat often by speed rushers. IF, Pinter gets driven back by bull rushes and Smith gets beat... it will be interesting.

For what it’s worth….   Just checked PFF…

 

In 2021 Smith allowed 4 sacks and had a pass blocking grade of about 71.   And he did this with a bad foot. 
 

In 2020 Smith allowed 0 sacks (zero) and had a pass blocking grade of about 75. 
 

In 2019, Smith had his worst season, allowing 7 sacks with a PB grade of 68.   And that was his first full year and he had JB at QB. 
 

Yes, Smith is clearly a much better run blocker.  Consistently grades in the 80s.   But he’s not a bad pass blocker and his grades and his contract tell you what the Colts think of him.    A year from now, if Pryor moves to the right side,  it’ll be to play guard, not tackle.  Smith will likely stay right where he is.  

[throwing BBZ]

47 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

For what it’s worth….   Just checked PFF…

 

In 2021 Smith allowed 4 sacks and had a pass blocking grade of about 71.   And he did this with a bad foot. 
 

In 2020 Smith allowed 0 sacks (zero) and had a pass blocking grade of about 75. 
 

In 2019, Smith had his worst season, allowing 7 sacks with a PB grade of 68.   And that was his first full year and he had JB at QB. 
 

Yes, Smith is clearly a much better run blocker.  Consistently grades in the 80s.   But he’s not a bad pass blocker and his grades and his contract tell you what the Colts think of him.    A year from now, if Pryor moves to the right side,  it’ll be to play guard, not tackle.  Smith will likely stay right where he is.  

 

  RIVERS is the Only reason he gave up 0 sacks. Left on an island he will get beat, likely a few times a game. Ryan will be aware. Thats show business!

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Some interesting stuff on the starting oline today. Rainmann went to LT. Pryor moved to RT and smith moved to RG.