Poll - QB Preference (now that PR has officially retired) (merge)

[Nesjan3]

Id give the Eagles a mid range defensive player for Wentz then they would have to give us their one for us to take the contact. If you listen to lombardi's podcast or even when he talks sparingly on Pat macafees channel he said he thinks Ballards not dumb enough to give up anything for Wentz and the contract. Likely all the rumors are the Eagles or Wentz agents trying to create a market for him and drive up the price. 

[NewColtsFan]

11 minutes ago, w87r said:

Isn't that what he said?

 

 

Yes....  that’s what he said.   I’m explaining I think that view is flawed.   That’s all. 

[danlhart87]

Just now, Aces101 said:

Agree 100% and said the exact thing about 10 pages ago and was laughed at by Chloe. LOL

Wasn't Chloe traded like an hour ago 

[PrincetonTiger]

1 minute ago, Aces101 said:

Agree 100% and said the exact thing about 10 pages ago and was laughed at by Chloe. LOL

I am for any bridge QB until Eason or whoever is ready

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Now that think about it more if they tweet  is real I bet it wasn’t all three players. They could be offering any of the three. Those are the players that are tradeable.

[danlhart87]

2 minutes ago, PrincetonTiger said:

I am for any bridge QB until Eason or whoever is ready

What about an actual bridge 

[PrincetonTiger]

Just now, danlhart87 said:

What about an actual bridge 

There is a historic decommissioned one near me

[danlhart87]

We have gone through like 13+ pages alone today woohoo 

 

[w87r]

3 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

Yes....  that’s what he said.   I’m explaining I think that view is flawed.   That’s all. 

I was confused for a second but went back and re-read.

 

I understand what you were saying now.

 

 

I initially thought you were saying that Doug said use our 2nd and 3rd on replacements, but you were saying you don't draft a guy in 2nd(RYS) and a guy in the 3rd(Oke) and expect them to be replaced by a 3rd and 4th round pick.

[danlhart87]

 

[cdgacoltsfan]

We don't need QB....just run the wildcat with Hines all year.

[PrincetonTiger]

Just now, w87r said:

I was confused for a second but went back and re-read.

 

I understand what you were saying now.

 

 

I initially thought you were saying that Doug said use our 2nd and 3rd on replacements, but you were saying you don't draft a guy in 2nd(RYS) and a guy in the 3rd(Oke) and expect them to be replaced by a 3rd and 4th round pick.

No they can replaced by guys already on the roster

[Mr.Debonair]

14 minutes ago, presto123 said:

Fitzpatrick could bridge at a MUCH cheaper cost.

Eason is already on the team what are we needing Fitzpatrick to bridge too? A maybe playoff season and another mid to late first round pick?

 

Either go get a guy or let Eason play. No more bridges 

[PrincetonTiger]

Just now, cdgacoltsfan said:

We don't need QB....just run the wildcat with Hines all year.

The University of Kentucky was forced to do that 2 years ago after their top 2 QBs got hurt

[w87r]

1 minute ago, PrincetonTiger said:

No they can replaced by guys already on the roster

I'm not arguing the point, just clarifying my misinterpretation of the original post.

 

I think both can be replaced.

[PrincetonTiger]

Just now, w87r said:

I'm not arguing the point, just clarifying my misinterpretation of the original post.

 

I think both can be replaced.

I knew you weren’t just adding my 2 cents

[NewColtsFan]

6 minutes ago, w87r said:

I was confused for a second but went back and re-read.

 

I understand what you were saying now.

 

 

I initially thought you were saying that Doug said use our 2nd and 3rd on replacements, but you were saying you don't draft a guy in 2nd(RYS) and a guy in the 3rd(Oke) and expect them to be replaced by a 3rd and 4th round pick.

Yes...    you put it more simply and directly than I did.   And that’s good. 

[csmopar]

14 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

Wasn't Chloe traded like an hour ago 

Yeah but they forgot to change the locks

[csmopar]

11 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

We have gone through like 13+ pages alone today woohoo 

 

We’ve gone thru 13 pages in 3 hours lol

[gnet550]

Don’t know her but she has a check lol

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

 

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

Wentz career is going to tank if this is true. He has no shot there with that oline.

[w87r]

I sure hope something good happens on the QB front soon, for Chloe's sake.

 

 

Stafford gone - anguish build up

Wentz rumored else where - there is nothing left after him

Colts rumors deal for less than 1st - Ballard wont do it.

 

 

Please just something good happen for her sake. Put her mind at ease, please.

 

 

Just now, gnet550 said:

Don’t know her but she has a check lol

 

 

I was wondering of Tarik Cohen was the All Pro rumored earlier.

[gnet550]

1 minute ago, Chloe6124 said:

 

Beat ya lol

[DougDew]

38 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

Doug...   I think you’ve been in a toll for several days now.   Lots of good posts.   And I was with you on this post until the last paragraph.

 

I don’t think you use pick 34 on a corner, and if he doesn’t work out, think he can be replaced with a 3rd round corner which would be mid-80’s. 
 

And I don’t think you use pick 87 on a LB like Okereke and think he can be replaced with a 4th rounder which this year would be around the mid-120’s.  

 

Yiu might get lucky, but I think that’s all it would be. 
 

 

What I meant was, that their level of play can be replaced with draft picks that are slightly lower than where they were drafted, if that makes sense.  I'm not an RYS basher like some, but I think he was probably over drafted at 34, which is a pretty high pick.

 

Somebody put up the athletic metric from the combine, sort of a spider web looking thing that I forget the name, and RYS athleticism is pretty poor.  And he doesn't have top end speed.  He will always be a #2 corner.  In a zone scheme, #2 corners can be had around the 3rd round, IMO.

 

And OKe is a nice player, but he has struggled in coverage.  Since we have Leonard, the other ILBs are always going to roll off the team after 3-4 years, IMO.  The #2 and #3 ILBs are cheap and easy to find.

 

And from another angle, I doubt that Ballard sees either player as one of the core players he's going to extend, so their time here is probably up at contract time.  They are short timers anyway, so trading them for something of value makes sense.  That's more of a guess. JMO.

 

Dungy and Polian used to do the same thing with ILBs and CBs.  Draft them, then replace them come contract time in about 3 years.

[PrincetonTiger]

2 minutes ago, w87r said:

I sure hope something good happens on the QB front soon, for Chloe's sake.

 

 

Stafford gone - anguish build up

Wentz rumored else where - there is nothing left after him

Colts rumors deal for less than 1st - Ballard wont do it.

 

 

Please just something good happen for her sake. Put her mind at ease, please.

 

 

 

 

I was wondering of Tarik Cohen was the All Pro rumored earlier.

Forgot about him

[csmopar]

2 minutes ago, w87r said:

I sure hope something good happens on the QB front soon, for Chloe's sake.

 

 

Stafford gone - anguish build up

Wentz rumored else where - there is nothing left after him

Colts rumors deal for less than 1st - Ballard wont do it.

 

 

Please just something good happen for her sake. Put her mind at ease, please.

 

 

 

 

I was wondering of Tarik Cohen was the All Pro rumored earlier.

Poor Girl

[GoColts8818]

 

if this is true you can scratch Foles off the list as well.

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

 

[2006Coltsbestever]

24 minutes ago, cdgacoltsfan said:

We don't need QB....just run the wildcat with Hines all year.

Yep we could be like the 90's Huskers and just run the option with Hines and Taylor and Hines can just throw short when needed behind great blocking  

[Restinpeacesweetchloe]

If this deal goes down for the Bears I think we are done with QB speculation of any value until the draft. If they sign anyone it will just be a journeyman QB you hope doesn’t start.

[danlhart87]

Just now, Chloe6124 said:

If this deal goes down for the Bears I think we are done with QB speculation of any value until the draft. If they sign anyone it will just be a journeyman QB you hope doesn’t start.

Lets hope it happens 

[w87r]

Just now, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Yep we could be like the 90's Huskers and just run the option with Hines and Taylor and Hines can just throw short when needed behind great blocking  

Taylor needs to receive the snap. Can't have Hines running up the middle after fake handoff.

[DougDew]

3 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

 

Something is wrong in Philly.  Confusing.

[danlhart87]

 

[2006Coltsbestever]

4 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

If this deal goes down for the Bears I think we are done with QB speculation of any value until the draft. If they sign anyone it will just be a journeyman QB you hope doesn’t start.

Ballard is a great GM, he knows more than me but I would focus in on Carr. I have said that for weeks. Gruden loves Mariota and Carr is above average to good. 

[The Fish]

5 minutes ago, Chloe6124 said:

 

Insert awesome Philly joke..

 

But honestly, this tweet is kinda confusing.. 

[danlhart87]

Just now, 2006Coltsbestever said:

Ballard is a great GM, he knows more than me but I would focus in on Carr. I have that for weeks. Gruden loves Mariota and Carr is above average to good. 

Would probably cost 2 1s 

No thank you 

[w87r]

2 minutes ago, danlhart87 said:

 

[DougDew]

1 minute ago, danlhart87 said:

 

I wonder if we sweetened the pot by offering this year's or next year's 4th for Ertz....to create cap space and give Philly something instead of inevitably cutting Ertz.......would put us over the top.