Jurrell Casey gone from Tennessee!

[PeterBowman]

https://www.rotoworld.com/football/nfl/player/12326/jurrell-casey

 

for a 7th.

 

At least he's out of the division. 

[BProland85]

Tennessee just traded him to Denver for their 7th round pick. What a dumb move for TN! Good news for Colts though!

 

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/03/18/broncos-trading-for-jurrell-casey/

[RollerColt]

Just now, BProland85 said:

Tennessee just traded him to Denver for their 7th round pick. What a dumb move for TN! Good news for Colts though!

 

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2020/03/18/broncos-trading-for-jurrell-casey/

Wow! 

[BProland85]

I just posted this too. What a dumb move by Tennessee!! Great news for Colts though!

[dgambill]

Wow...that guy was a stud for Tennessee. Not sure what his contract was like as I'm assuming this is to try to re-sign Henry but dang...that's a cheap deal for a great run stuffer.

[RollerColt]

I guess with the other signings they just couldn’t afford him. But for a 7th?

[stitches]

I guess they really like what they are seeing from Simmons. 

[21isSuperman]

I understand his cap hit is a little high, but he's 30 years old and can still play.  And after the run they had in the playoffs, I'd imagine the Titans are in win-now mode, so getting rid of him doesn't fit in with that.  On top of it all, they only got a 7th rounder back for him.  Crazy

[NewColtsFan]

Casey?     For a 7th?

 

Who's making that deal?     Bill O'Brien?

 

It's an NFL world gone mad!

 

[RollerColt]

2 minutes ago, NewColtsFan said:

Casey?     For a 7th?

 

Who's making that deal?     Bill O'Brien?

 

It's an NFL world gone mad!

 

Right? The AFC South is having a fire sale!
 

[ColtJax]

This is what happens with the salary cap. Good players are basically given away because they need that money for another position.

[21isSuperman]

4 minutes ago, ColtJax said:

This is what happens with the salary cap. Good players are basically given away because they need that money for another position.

If they wanna pinch pennies, 4 years/$118 mil/$62 mil guaranteed to Tannehill was insane.  He played well for them, but almost $30 mil a year for a guy who doesn't even average 250 yards a game?

 

I'm also not a cap expert, but I imagine they could have restructured Casey's deal to save some cap money.

 

And if all that fails, they could still have gotten much better than a 7th round pick for him.

[pgt_rob]

Great player but a bit of a head scratcher move. He always seemed to beat us up a bit. Glad he's out of the division now.

[PrincetonTiger]

26 minutes ago, 21isSuperman said:

If they wanna pinch pennies, 4 years/$118 mil/$62 mil guaranteed to Tannehill was insane.  He played well for them, but almost $30 mil a year for a guy who doesn't even average 250 yards a game?

 

I'm also not a cap expert, but I imagine they could have restructured Casey's deal to save some cap money.

 

And if all that fails, they could still have gotten much better than a 7th round pick for him.

Exactly what I was thinking

[Kyle]

Simmons made Casey expendable.  I would guess this was done to free up money for a big signing coming soon.  Possibly Clowney to Tennessee

[ColtsBlueFL]

32 minutes ago, Kyle said:

Simmons made Casey expendable.  I would guess this was done to free up money for a big signing coming soon.  Possibly Clowney to Tennessee

 

Definitely cap relief move-

 

Salary (moved)              Dead Cap                Cap savings

$13,387,500                   $3,200,000                $10,187,500

 

and his cap hit for both 2021 and 2022 was going to be 13.8+ million each year.

[ColtJax]

2 hours ago, 21isSuperman said:

If they wanna pinch pennies, 4 years/$118 mil/$62 mil guaranteed to Tannehill was insane.  He played well for them, but almost $30 mil a year for a guy who doesn't even average 250 yards a game?

 

I'm also not a cap expert, but I imagine they could have restructured Casey's deal to save some cap money.

 

And if all that fails, they could still have gotten much better than a 7th round pick for him.

The reason the Tannyhill contract isn't so bad is that it's basically a 2 year deal with the option for additional years if the team wants him. The signing bonus is his first two years, all other years have no dead cap hit if he's released..

[ColtJax]

4 minutes ago, ColtJax said:

 

 

[shasta519]

3 hours ago, stitches said:

I guess they really like what they are seeing from Simmons. 

 

Completely understandable if they do...he looks like a future Pro Bowler. 

 

Casey had somewhat of a down year...and is going to be 30. Still...it's always somewhat jarring to see a franchise stalwart get traded for next to nothing...just to clear cap space. The NFL is a business...first and foremost.

[shasta519]

1 hour ago, ColtJax said:

 

 

Looks like we were right about those ridiculous Foles trade scenarios. Not only did they not have to give up anything...they actually got back a useful 4th round comp pick. From what I have read...Ballard was offering a 5th round pick...so he was very much on the radar.

[shasta519]

I think this deal...much like the Campbell trade...was signed off on by the player. Maybe next season some non-AFCS will be shopping salary dumps and the Colts can get in on it.

[dgambill]

Houston giving away Hopkins/Clowney

Jags giving away Campbell

Titans giving away Casey and passing on TB

The coronavirus must have these GMs sick in the head....good thing Luck is already gone or Ballard may have traded him for a vintage guitar for Irsay!

[BProland85]

3 hours ago, Kyle said:

Simmons made Casey expendable.  I would guess this was done to free up money for a big signing coming soon.  Possibly Clowney to Tennessee

It'd be a bad signing for them to get Clowney. He is so overrated. Under Vrabel in Houston, he got 9 sacks. Not worth what he may get in free agency. 

[chad72]

4 hours ago, NewColtsFan said:

Casey?     For a 7th?

 

Who's making that deal?     Bill O'Brien?

 

It's an NFL world gone mad!

 

 

That is exactly what I was thinking. Casey and Simmons, together, were menacing for OLs to handle. It is definitely going to make our OL job easier against them.

 

Campbell, Casey, Hopkins, our division guys got weaker a bit, and I am certain we got stronger with Buckner and Rivers in key areas.

[chad72]

39 minutes ago, BProland85 said:

It'd be a bad signing for them to get Clowney. He is so overrated. Under Vrabel in Houston, he got 9 sacks. Not worth what he may get in free agency. 

 

Our OL has experience going against both Clowney and Watt together, that is why I am not worried.

[Coltscrazy]

Didn't they lose Jack Conklin too.  The tough guy team is letting some tough guys go.

[shasta519]

4 hours ago, BProland85 said:

It'd be a bad signing for them to get Clowney. He is so overrated. Under Vrabel in Houston, he got 9 sacks. Not worth what he may get in free agency. 

 

Buckner got $21M...and has had one season with more than 7.5 sacks. Clowney will be a huge boost whereever he ends up.

[chad72]

For all that we know, once Clowney's price comes down in a week to the $17-18 mil. range, Ballard might offer him a 2 yr. $35 mil. contract and get him??? It is still possible. 

[BProland85]

On 3/18/2020 at 3:53 PM, chad72 said:

 

Our OL has experience going against both Clowney and Watt together, that is why I am not worried.

 

Not to mention that Big Q owns Clowney!

[WifiGuy]

On 3/18/2020 at 12:21 PM, ColtJax said:

This is what happens with the salary cap. Good players are basically given away because they need that money for another position.

And probably something Ballard realizes so he is sitting in wait!